Casey Not Guilty?

[whiteangora]

This thread is probably going to be my rock during the trial.
Each time I feel some of that nasty doubt about the verdict, all I have to do is come and read these convincing posts.
TYVM to all who contributed and cleared the cobwebs.

 

[Harvey]

I keep thinking about the one lone juror in the first Phil Spector case who held out for "not guilty" and then it became pretty obvious he did that because he so wanted to grab his 15 minutes of fame. And if IRC he was a pretty well educated man but his reasoning wasn't logical and it didn't make sense (highly educated or not...). But I think this prosecutor is very savvy and JB isn't all that skilled. When the defense attorneys talk about "believing in this case," I think they mean "believing in a system that makes the state PROVE it." I don't think they believe in an innocent Casey. JMO

 

[LolaMoon08]

Everytime I start thinking about Casey Anthony going free, I look back on a few things that I know the jury will hear/see during trial that will have a huge impact even before they get to the forensics of the case.

The 911 calls.

By the time they get to the third 911 call, Cindy is hysterical and Casey is cooler than a polar bears toenails. We also hear from Casey's own mouth that Caylee has been "missing" for 31 days. That the nanny, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales, was the one who took Caylee Marie. Lie! That Casey had been searching for Caylee on her own. Lie! And that just as recently as that afternoon, Casey had talked to an alive Caylee Marie from an unknown number. Lie!

Casey's original written police statement.

"On Monday, June 9, 2008 between 9am and 1 pm, I, Casey Anthony, took my daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony, to her nanny’s apartment. Caylee will be 3-years-old on August 9, 2008. She was born on August 2005. Caylee is about 3 feet tall, white female with shoulder-length, light brown hair. She has dark hazel eyes (brown/green), and a small birth mark on her left shoulder. On the day of her disappearance, Caylee was wearing a pink shirt, with jean shorts, white sneakers, and her hair was pulled back in a ponytail. On Monday, June 9, 2008, between 9am and 1pm, I took Caylee to the Sawgrass apartments, located on Conway Rd. Caylee’s nanny, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, has watched her for the past year and a half, to two years. Zenaida is twenty-five years old, and is from New York. She is roughly 5foot 7 inches tall, 140 pounds. She has dark brown, curly hair, and brown eyes. Zenaida’s birthday is in September. I met Zenaida, through a mutual friend, Jeffery Michael Hopkins. She had watched his son, Zachary Hopkins, for about 6 months, to a year. I met Zenaida in 2004, around Christmas. On the date listed above, June 9, 2008, after dropping Caylee off at Zenaida’s apartment, I proceeded to head to my place of employment, Universal Studios Orlando. I have workd at Universal for over 4 years, since June of 2004. I left work around 5pm, and went back to the apartment to pick-up my daughter. However, after reaching the apartment I realized that neither Zenaida, Caylee, or either of her two roommates were home. I have briefly met Raquel Farrell, and Jennifer Rosa, on various occasions. After calling Zenaida to see where she and Caylee were, and when they were coming home I waited outside of the apartment. I had calle her that afternoon, her phone was no longer in service. This has always bothered me? Two hours passed, and around 7pm, I left the apartment, and headed to familiar places that Zenaida would go with Caylee. One of Caylee’s favorite places is Jay Blanchard Park. I spent the rest of that evening, pacing and worrying at one of the few places I felt “at home” my boyfriend Anthony Lazzaro’s apartment. For the past four weeks, since Caylee’s disappearance, I have stayed at Anthony’s apartment in Sutton Place. I have spent everyday, since Monday, June 9, 2008, looking for my daughter. I have lied and stolen from friends and family, to do whatever I could by any means, to find my daughter. I avoided calling the police, or even notifying my own family out of fear. I have been, and still am afraid of what has, or may happen to Caylee. I have not had contact with Zenaida since Thursday, June 12, 2008.[/U] I received a quick call from Zenaida. Not once have I been able to ask her for my daughter, or gain any information on where I can find her. Everyday I have gone to malls, parks, andy place I could remember Zenaida taking Caylee. I have gone out and tried to find any information about Caylee, or Zenaida, whether by going to a popular bar, or restaurant. I have contacted Jeff Hopkins on several occasions to see if he had heard from, or seen Zenaida. Jeff currently lives in Jacksonville, Florida.
On Tuesday, July 15, 2008, around 12pm, I received a phone call from my daughter, Caylee. Today was the first day I have heard her voice in over 4 weeks. I’m afraid of what Caylee is going through. After 31 days, I know that the only thing that matters is getting my daughter back. With many and all attempts to contact Zenaida, and within the one short conversation, on June 12, 2008. I was never able to check on the status or well-being of my daughter. Zenaida never made an attempt to explain why caylee is no longer in Orlando, or if she is ever going to bring her home."

From what I know, because this statement is written in Casey's own handwriting, it can not be considered hearsay and therefore, everything that she has claimed in this statement should be able to be explained to the jury.

I fully believe the SA will have a lot more fun than CM could ever have trying to explain AWAY how Casey dropped Caylee off at a non-existent nanny's apartment that had been vacant for months. After leaving her non-existent job at Universal Studios she then heads back to the non-existent nanny's vacant apartment to find Caylee missing.

She claims in her written statement that at 7:00pm on June 9th (yeah, I know, it was June 15th) she went to Jay Blanchard Park and to stores looking for Caylee and the invisi-nanny. But, her interview with LE said that at 7:00pm she went to Tony's apartment. Either way, I did a little estimate using Map Quest and the times she gave the day Caylee "disappeared" and came to the conclusion that she spent a whopping 22 minutes searching for her missing baby before going to Tony's apartment and heading off to Blockbuster to pace back and forth the rest of the night trying to figure out what to do.


The jury will hear about the non-existent Jeffrey Michael Hopkins with the son Zachary. The non-existent roommates Rachael and Jennifer. They'll hear about the money Casey stole (in Casey's own words) to look for Caylee by buying beer, bras and sunglasses etc...

She spent all that time searching for Caylee... making it possible to show the pictures of Casey having the time of her life while her baby is missing, getting a tattoo "The Beautiful Life" while her baby is missing etc...

The LE interviews at Hopespring Drive and Universal Studios.

Just listen to them again and you will understand why it makes me feel better to listen to them when I start thinking that she will go free.

The phone call home to Cindy, Lee and Kristina.

"Alls they care about is getting Caylee back. That's all they care about..."

"A waste... huge waste."

"There's nothing to find out. Not even what I told the detectives."

Casey in ALL HER GLORY!!

I could go on and on...

The thing is, the jury is going to get to see and hear all of these for sure, IMO. They show Casey as she really is. Not what they are going to see sitting in front of them during trial. Just these few things will stay ingrained into their minds as they listen to testimony after testimony from family, friends, Law Enforcement and those who had any kind of contact with her during those months that she was out on bond when she had not shown any care in the world at helping find her missing baby.

This is all before any forensics evidence is even brought in. Before it is confirmed that the smell of decomposition is decomposition. I have no doubt that the jury will see things as they are and Casey will be convicted!

 

[txsvicki]

I'm glad that Casey and we all are entitled to fair trials and defense, but am totally convinced that Casey will be found guilty of premeditated murder. There is way too much evidence for that not to happen. There will be debates and all sorts of talk from her attorneys and the crew on NG and other shows, but it's just for show.

 

[chefmom]

Everytime I start thinking about Casey Anthony going free, I look back on a few things that I know the jury will hear/see during trial that will have a huge impact even before they get to the forensics of the case.

The 911 calls.

By the time they get to the third 911 call, Cindy is hysterical and Casey is cooler than a polar bears toenails. We also hear from Casey's own mouth that Caylee has been "missing" for 31 days. That the nanny, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales, was the one who took Caylee Marie. Lie! That Casey had been searching for Caylee on her own. Lie! And that just as recently as that afternoon, Casey had talked to an alive Caylee Marie from an unknown number. Lie!

Casey's original written police statement.

"On Monday, June 9, 2008 between 9am and 1 pm, I, Casey Anthony, took my daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony, to her nanny’s apartment. Caylee will be 3-years-old on August 9, 2008. She was born on August 2005. Caylee is about 3 feet tall, white female with shoulder-length, light brown hair. She has dark hazel eyes (brown/green), and a small birth mark on her left shoulder. On the day of her disappearance, Caylee was wearing a pink shirt, with jean shorts, white sneakers, and her hair was pulled back in a ponytail. On Monday, June 9, 2008, between 9am and 1pm, I took Caylee to the Sawgrass apartments, located on Conway Rd. Caylee’s nanny, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, has watched her for the past year and a half, to two years. Zenaida is twenty-five years old, and is from New York. She is roughly 5foot 7 inches tall, 140 pounds. She has dark brown, curly hair, and brown eyes. Zenaida’s birthday is in September. I met Zenaida, through a mutual friend, Jeffery Michael Hopkins. She had watched his son, Zachary Hopkins, for about 6 months, to a year. I met Zenaida in 2004, around Christmas. On the date listed above, June 9, 2008, after dropping Caylee off at Zenaida’s apartment, I proceeded to head to my place of employment, Universal Studios Orlando. I have workd at Universal for over 4 years, since June of 2004. I left work around 5pm, and went back to the apartment to pick-up my daughter. However, after reaching the apartment I realized that neither Zenaida, Caylee, or either of her two roommates were home. I have briefly met Raquel Farrell, and Jennifer Rosa, on various occasions. After calling Zenaida to see where she and Caylee were, and when they were coming home I waited outside of the apartment. I had calle her that afternoon, her phone was no longer in service. This has always bothered me? Two hours passed, and around 7pm, I left the apartment, and headed to familiar places that Zenaida would go with Caylee. One of Caylee’s favorite places is Jay Blanchard Park. I spent the rest of that evening, pacing and worrying at one of the few places I felt “at home” my boyfriend Anthony Lazzaro’s apartment. For the past four weeks, since Caylee’s disappearance, I have stayed at Anthony’s apartment in Sutton Place. I have spent everyday, since Monday, June 9, 2008, looking for my daughter. I have lied and stolen from friends and family, to do whatever I could by any means, to find my daughter. I avoided calling the police, or even notifying my own family out of fear. I have been, and still am afraid of what has, or may happen to Caylee. I have not had contact with Zenaida since Thursday, June 12, 2008.[/U] I received a quick call from Zenaida. Not once have I been able to ask her for my daughter, or gain any information on where I can find her. Everyday I have gone to malls, parks, andy place I could remember Zenaida taking Caylee. I have gone out and tried to find any information about Caylee, or Zenaida, whether by going to a popular bar, or restaurant. I have contacted Jeff Hopkins on several occasions to see if he had heard from, or seen Zenaida. Jeff currently lives in Jacksonville, Florida.
On Tuesday, July 15, 2008, around 12pm, I received a phone call from my daughter, Caylee. Today was the first day I have heard her voice in over 4 weeks. I’m afraid of what Caylee is going through. After 31 days, I know that the only thing that matters is getting my daughter back. With many and all attempts to contact Zenaida, and within the one short conversation, on June 12, 2008. I was never able to check on the status or well-being of my daughter. Zenaida never made an attempt to explain why caylee is no longer in Orlando, or if she is ever going to bring her home."

From what I know, because this statement is written in Casey's own handwriting, it can not be considered hearsay and therefore, everything that she has claimed in this statement should be able to be explained to the jury.

I fully believe the SA will have a lot more fun than CM could ever have trying to explain AWAY how Casey dropped Caylee off at a non-existent nanny's apartment that had been vacant for months. After leaving her non-existent job at Universal Studios she then heads back to the non-existent nanny's vacant apartment to find Caylee missing.

She claims in her written statement that at 7:00pm on June 9th (yeah, I know, it was June 15th) she went to Jay Blanchard Park and to stores looking for Caylee and the invisi-nanny. But, her interview with LE said that at 7:00pm she went to Tony's apartment. Either way, I did a little estimate using Map Quest and the times she gave the day Caylee "disappeared" and came to the conclusion that she spent a whopping 22 minutes searching for her missing baby before going to Tony's apartment and heading off to Blockbuster to pace back and forth the rest of the night trying to figure out what to do.


The jury will hear about the non-existent Jeffrey Michael Hopkins with the son Zachary. The non-existent roommates Rachael and Jennifer. They'll hear about the money Casey stole (in Casey's own words) to look for Caylee by buying beer, bras and sunglasses etc...

She spent all that time searching for Caylee... making it possible to show the pictures of Casey having the time of her life while her baby is missing, getting a tattoo "The Beautiful Life" while her baby is missing etc...

The LE interviews at Hopespring Drive and Universal Studios.

Just listen to them again and you will understand why it makes me feel better to listen to them when I start thinking that she will go free.

The phone call home to Cindy, Lee and Kristina.

"Alls they care about is getting Caylee back. That's all they care about..."

"A waste... huge waste."

"There's nothing to find out. Not even what I told the detectives."

Casey in ALL HER GLORY!!

I could go on and on...

The thing is, the jury is going to get to see and hear all of these for sure, IMO. They show Casey as she really is. Not what they are going to see sitting in front of them during trial. Just these few things will stay ingrained into their minds as they listen to testimony after testimony from family, friends, Law Enforcement and those who had any kind of contact with her during those months that she was out on bond when she had not shown any care in the world at helping find her missing baby.

This is all before any forensics evidence is even brought in. Before it is confirmed that the smell of decomposition is decomposition. I have no doubt that the jury will see things as they are and Casey will be convicted!

A most excellent post, Lola! And 100% on the money! The thanks button wasn't enough for this one! :applause::applause::applause::applause:

 

[cyberborg]

Added to the 31 days and 'never' reported Caylee missing is the fact that ICA 'never' ever provided a plausible and verifiable story as to how Caylee left her charge. It wasn't just the lies but the complete lack of cooperation with LE, her family, LP, FBI ... anyone!!

Added to the 31 days and 'never' reported Caylee missing is the fact that the Anthony's and ICA's Defense have done everything to signal her Guilt by virtue of not demanding that the SODDI is found and brought to justice. If justice for Caylee is justice for ICA ... isn't that in finding the real killer? These folks are terrible actors.

Added to the 31 days and 'never' reported Caylee missing is the fact that ICA sold pictures of Caylee and obtained $200,000 yet elected to use that for her Defense fund -- not 0.01c to find Caylee. At the time she (supposedly) thought Caylee was kidnapped.

Added to the 31 days and 'never' reported Caylee missing is the fact that ICA's Defense 'claims' they have exculpatory evidence that proves ICA's innocence and that SODDI yet ICA remains in jail after months/years and is still waiting for trial.

If there is some rogue juror or technicality that springs ICA from jail then as others have so eloquently stated, ICA has evolved into a criminal that was getting away with lies and stealing ... she would now have gotten away with murder. ICA will feel even more invulnerable and defiant and will be her own demise.

ICA called herself a spiteful b!tch but if she wants to know how that really feels she should experience the 'karma' that life is going to deal her ... when she committed the horrific and despicable act of murdering Caylee then ICA sentenced herself to LIFE without Parole.

At times ICA is haunted by the horrific act, the images as she dealt with what were the remains of Caylee. It would be extremely impacting to see that as an outsider but to see that ... of your own child ... is the recipe for her nightmares and cold sweats. True horror locked inside her memory that recurs when she doesn't expect. ICA killed a part of herself, her soul.

Whether ICA serves her sentence in a prison, at home, on the run, in a millionaire lifestyle ... she snuffed out her true happiness -- that was Caylee -- and life will never be quite the same. Whatever goes around comes around and ICA chose a dangerous path very few would.

I think that ICA has 'issues' but the enormity of what she has done will eat into her IMO and she will devolve towards insanity without a confession and medical help. She needs psychological treatment else she is going to self-destruct locking it all inside. Her defiance will be her downfall.

 

[pip]

100% Bravado. Lie, deny and challenge everything. That's all they have. I think the jurors will see through the powerhouse smokescreen without problem once given all the facts and evidence. The only hope for KC is that there is at least one kook on the jury that wants her found not guilty. If there is, it wouldn't matter if Barney Fife was defending her. Without that kooky juror, KC is done for. It's a crapshoot.

 

[tsitra01]

I also remember KC complaining after all her lies, that LE misconstrued everything she told them. I can see that played to the jury after they hear all of her lies and read her
Statement.
I do worry about the jury and how the defense will be on them every minute to attempt
to get rid of ones who appear to not look at them when they are talking or who knows.
Maybe find a friend who will claim they made remarks before the trial.

Baez's statement to 9's reporter telling him (paraphrased) to respect him and his CLIENT
was almost hilarious. Respect a Client who lied about her missing daughter and every
other question asked of her. He's second to none. IMO

 

[countzero]

I have firm belief in the SAO and HHJP. They will be able to "weed" out those who are looking for their 15 minutes of fame from the jury selection. This isn't their first nor last DP case. They have years of experience in judging the character of potential jury pools.

 

[LinasK]

Your comments were wonderful Chiquita71, and thanks for the quick memory hit - I remember laughing until I cried about the dancing ITO - was it SNL or Johnny Carson? I think they both had a very good time with the craziness of that case.
I'm still shaking my head at Marsha getting a 4M advance for her book!!

Pretty Sure it was Jay Leno who had the Dancing Ito's on...

 

[LolaMoon08]

I also remember KC complaining after all her lies, that LE misconstrued everything she told them. I can see that played to the jury after they hear all of her lies and read her
Statement.

What is so funny about Casey making that statement about Law Enforcement was that it was to Kristina during the phone call home (I am 99% sure) when just minutes earlier, she was talking to Lee and said "There's nothing to find out. Not even what I told the detectives" after Lee said that they "would find out" what she was not telling them.

I really want to know how the defense is going to go about explaining the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez kidnapping story? IMO, the defense is going to have to give the jury an answer to this. They can't just ignore it, can they? Casey went to great lengths to invent this woman.

Her full name: Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez
Born in: September (she didn't know the date)
Age: 25-years-old
Height: roughly 5'7
Weight: 140
Hair: dark, curly brown hair
Eyes: brown
Ethic backround - Puerto Rican and Black. Her mother "Gloria" was Puerto Rican and her dad was Black.
Born in: New York.
Siblings: We know she has a "half-sister" named Samantha. They had the same mother, but different fathers.

Zenaida was a seasonal employee with Universal Studios. She even had a seasonal I.D. pass

Zenaida had been a student at the University of Florida. (This is according to her interview with LE at her home)


This would be LE's dream witness if it wasn't all BS. A lot of great details about the suspect!! I mean the girl was a student at the University of Florida for crying out loud. I would love to see how many ZFG's they've had enrolled into that college since its' opening and I am pretty sure that LE would have been able to get a solid lead on who this woman was. Just sayin'.

And that is just the 1st Zenaida they have to get around!! They also have Jay Blanchard Park Zenaida and Casey's letter writing Zenaida.

 

[Melanie]

One thing I haven't thought much about -- but now am. What about a MISTRIAL? Will the defense put so much carp in front of the jury that they won't be able to make up their mind? How many pages of evidence, depositions, witnesses do they have. Is their plan to scramble the jurors brains? Now THAT freaks me out!

Moo

Mel

 

[Just Jayla]

One thing I haven't thought much about -- but now am. What about a MISTRIAL? Will the defense put so much carp in front of the jury that they won't be able to make up their mind? How many pages of evidence, depositions, witnesses do they have. Is their plan to scramble the jurors brains? Now THAT freaks me out!

Moo

Mel

I think jury instructions and common sense (on the part of the jurors) will play a role in the outcome even moreso than the defense antics-We have to assume that the jurors will be just as we were when we first heard about this case-It did not take many of us very long to make a determination, based on our gut, what happened to Caylee.
The state will lay out the evidence in a more concise and condensed version than we ever had the luxury of getting-We had information trickle into to us slowly, and each doc dump only gave us more information to confirm our initial thoughts.
The jury will get the information in a neater more focused way and I will give them the beneft of the doubt that they will put together the pieces just as the rational people here have.
Jury instructions will help to filter a lot of the nonsense, and there is a good chance that at least one coherent and strong willed juror will be able to articulate the story to any jurors that are up in the air.
Ask yourself-Has JB's craziness made you consider KC's innocence? Or did you make your determinatin based on the evidence and interviews/testimony? The jury will be no different than you or me in that respect.

 

[Aedrys]

And don't forget the one hair found - tested to have mitochondrial DNA - and ICA's bright quip - well I'm still here (not an exact quote I realize, but close enough).

The hair was found in the trunk of the car and showed a death band also. It was proven it was Caylee's hair, so how could a hair from a dead Caylee be in the trunk if the decomp found was from someone else.

We're talking reasonable doubt here folks.

ITA and the jury gets one WHIFF of that trunk and they're not going to be thinking squirrels or pizza. They're going to be vomiting because it's human decomp. Baez is completely sunk there and so is Casey. No wonder he's focusing more on the penalty phase!

 

[logicalgirl]

ITA and the jury gets one WHIFF of that trunk and they're not going to be thinking squirrels or pizza. They're going to be vomiting because it's human decomp. Baez is completely sunk there and so is Casey. No wonder he's focusing more on the penalty phase!

Well, we'd LIKE them to get a whiff of that trunk, but AZLawyer has said a couple of times there is no way they will get the opportunity to do so.

I understand the reason for this is because a jury might think the trunk smells dreadful, if they don't know what decomp smells like, all the jury would be able to do is identify it smells awful but not why.

 

[Aedrys]

Well, we'd LIKE them to get a whiff of that trunk, but AZLawyer has said a couple of times there is no way they will get the opportunity to do so.

I understand the reason for this is because a jury might think the trunk smells dreadful, if they don't know what decomp smells like, all the jury would be able to do is identify it smells awful but not why.

Well that sucks. Why are they keeping the trunk sealed, then? And honestly, I'd want them to smell it for the reaction - they are going to think "it smells like somebody died in there". Deciphering that smell isn't the important part. That knee jerk reaction is what is important. If they have that reaction, then it's not going to be surprising that other people in that case had the same reaction too.

I think it could only benefit the prosecution, but I can see the defense yelling about it, that it's too prejudicial. I do wonder, though, if the defense pushes hard enough that there was no dead body back there if the prosecution can ultimately counter with the car and the smell still in it.

 

[Solace]

Well, we'd LIKE them to get a whiff of that trunk, but AZLawyer has said a couple of times there is no way they will get the opportunity to do so.

I understand the reason for this is because a jury might think the trunk smells dreadful, if they don't know what decomp smells like, all the jury would be able to do is identify it smells awful but not why.

There is no doubt that the odor of a decomposing body is distinct. I just went through it some 4 weeks ago. It takes days to get over it if not a couple of weeks to get it out of your mind. Smells like the worst rotting food or garbage, combined with whatever smell the body gives off. It is like nothing else. Bad.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

One of the saddest things, iIf she does go free, would be all the money she would most probably get through book deals, interviews, movie rights, etc. So maybe 3 years waiting in jail is a small price for all she could get from killing her precious daughter.

Hope she rots.

One advantage to determining Caylee's paternal relatives is that they could come in and bring a wrongful death suit against ICA. If they won and were awarded damages, they could lay claim to any $$ she makes through those deals.

 

[Starfish]

I must admit, after reading Butterfly's first post, it got me thinking, the thought of ICA walking & no justice for Caylee made me sick! I totally understand what Butterfly is saying. After reading all the responses, I feel so much better, there's just NO WAY that can happen!

There are so many things that simply cannot be overlooked! The 31 days, the lies, all her actions while her baby is "missing", the tattoo, no tears, no assistance in trying to find her baby, the smell in her car, no phone number for the nanny, no address for the nanny, not one person knows the nanny, her own family has done nothing to find the nanny, her "dream team" has done nothing to find the nanny, no one can even find anyone in the nanny's family, why are they pointing fingers at other people when the nanny is supposed to be the the killer according to the defendant????? The list just goes on & on.

I can't wait for this trial to start, I want to hear the defense bozo's explain the reasons for all those lies....if she is innocent then why the lies???? Sure lying does not make you a killer, but what innocent person is going to lie in a situation like this????

The death of this beautiful little baby makes me sick & the fact that all those people that are supposed to have loved her & protected her are now doing everything in their power to protect the person who killed her....well, there's just no words to describe those people, lowest form of life doesn't even begin to describe them. I don't know how any of them sleep at night, the A's and the "dream team", they all know the truth & they kill Caylee over & over again with their ridiculous theories, stories and lies.

 

[countzero]

One advantage to determining Caylee's paternal relatives is that they could come in and bring a wrongful death suit against ICA. If they won and were awarded damages, they could lay claim to any $$ she makes through those deals.

I have mixed feelings about this. The fact that the guy who fathered ICA didn't bother to question paternity when Caylee was conceived and born didn't bother to even attempt to file a paternity case against ICA for the almost three years Caylee was living. And now over two years later if he suddenly surfaced, and he brought a case against ICA .... well I wouldn't have any respect for him. Five plus years later is a sorry excuse to lay claim to your child regardless whether $$$$ are involved.

If he had come forward immediately July 16, 2008 then he would be in a better position to claim anything. The facts that he didn't, tells me he knows and doesn't want involvement. Or he suspects he is and doesn't want involvement. Regardless, coming forward now, filing a legal claim against ICA, makes him no better than ICA/CA/GA/LA profiting off of Caylee's murder.

And if this guy does know he is the father and has chosen to remain silent, I respect him even more. There isn't any reason I see on this earth for his name to be exposed in the media unless he chooses it to be.

It's a part of this case that has people wondering for their own personal curiosity. It's not a part of the case directly. The lack of paternity knowledge only points to CAs controlling natural and ICAs lies. And with that, I do believe CA and ICA both know who he is and they are keeping quiet as well. Even JB isn't interested in him.