Casey to serve one year probation #2

[allycat1208]

I'm sure this has been covered before, but why is so much effort being put into not having Casey Anthony serve 1 year probation?

I don't buy the "It isn't safe for her in Florida" excuse.

Is it that it will diminish her marketability? Are they afraid she cannot meet the conditions of probation?

It seems like her attorneys believe she should not be held accountable for anything she's done...but then they are saying she's already served her probation in prison which was not what was intended. Her only marketability is selling her story to a writer or speaking for interviews and that will get dull fast since she won't have much to say. I don't think probation sill do anything to her marketability. She will still be the same notorious alleged bad baby mama.

 

[cyberborg]

I'm sure this has been covered before, but why is so much effort being put into not having Casey Anthony serve 1 year probation?

I don't buy the "It isn't safe for her in Florida" excuse.

Is it that it will diminish her marketability? Are they afraid she cannot meet the conditions of probation?

The stock price of FCA goes down dramatically if the DT loses this probation appeal IMO, even though trivial in the grand scheme. Another win would be HUGE for the DT, legendary -- although I think it just hurts FCA's image further. Far better for FCA to humbly serve the probation like everyone else and integrate into society.

A loss is a loss, the DT shiny track record becomes flawed ... the DT want to maintain a flawless record of legendary 'wins' against all odds. There is only one way to go from here ... Downward.

The hype from the murder trial is lost ... Many people have short-term memories ... recent performance counts. It is all about check fraud and probation now and ... Who cares? Really?

 

[RR0004]

I'm in Long Beach, NY. but why does this matter.

NY/NJ feels an earthquake on the day a decision could be handed down? Could be another one of the signs (lol?).
Is LF on her own now? I saw only her name on today's response and noted her email being LF Law.

 

[mimmy03]

They are talking earthquake. I personally hope the Court decides at the last minute so she has to appear on Friday at the main DOC office. :rocker:

If she's not in Florida already the hurricane could affect flight travel so she better get her soon as a precaution.

 

[IfIMay]

If she's not in Florida already the hurricane could affect flight travel so she better get her soon as a precaution.

I hope she plays it the way she has her whole life and waits til the last moment. Then can't appear. :great:

 

[lauriej]

NY/NJ feels an earthquake on the day a decision could be handed down? Could be another one of the signs (lol?).
Is LF on her own now? I saw only her name on today's response and noted her email being LF Law.

..no---she gives the address suite 2100-390 orange avenue, which is the cheney law firm..

 

[cyberborg]

NY/NJ feels an earthquake on the day a decision could be handed down? Could be another one of the signs (lol?).
Is LF on her own now? I saw only her name on today's response and noted her email being LF Law.

JB and CM have milked this one so ... they have handed off to LF to promote herself ... since she is more articulate, intelligent and, more diabolically defense-friendly devious. LF can split hairs, nuances and, semantics. She was driving most of the Defense anyway with JB and CM taking the upfront credit but is now in the forefront it seems. She is the only one who could go head-to-head with HHJBP. CM is way past his sell by date and, JB never even got there IMO.

 

[RR0004]

its funny during the same week as FCA must return to FL a hurricane is coming and east coast was hit by an earthquake. and after the verdict a lighting strike hit the tree.......... THATS A SIGN THAT THE idiotist jury got it wrong and Caylee and God ARE PI$$ED.........

If you think about how many people signed the petition for Caylee's Law, there's over a million more who are equally pi$$ed. IMO

 

[egnarts]

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/new...fense-files-reply-regarding-probation-hearing

There is a link at the article to the DT response filed today. A decision could come today.

I'm not an attorney, nor do I pretend to be one on TV.
However, I find the DT reply a bit :waitasec:.
The smoke & mirrors now indicates DOC has policies in place whereby an inmate can serve probation IF she is not also serving a sentence at the same time.

In this scenario, FCA was serving time for check charges then probation for said charges and then, after sentencing on lying to LE, she was given time served for the 4 lying to LE charges, with the court 'math' I will never comprehend!

Bottom line, IMO, they are now saying she was NOT serving a sentence at the time the 'probation' was served. But, I thinnk if we do reverse math, she ultimately WAS credited with lying to LE sentence time @ the same time she supposedly served probation time while being incarcerated. DYKWIM?

I believe she will/should be forced to do the 1 yr probation... :banghead::waitasec::banghead::waitasec:

 

[RR0004]

You got it all right, but it sure made my head hurt.
I'm all for her going back to jail to do the time for lying.


ETA: just read that my town also felt the earthquake. Where was I? Oops...it was a 2.2 quake...different from the one down South.

 

[Kentjbkent]

Please take "earthquake" discussion offboard and remain On Topic.

Thank You!!

 

[cyberborg]

I'm not an attorney, nor do I pretend to be one on TV.
However, I find the DT reply a bit :waitasec:.
The smoke & mirrors now indicates DOC has policies in place whereby an inmate can serve probation IF she is not also serving a sentence at the same time.

In this scenario, FCA was serving time for check charges then probation for said charges and then, after sentencing on lying to LE, she was given time served for the 4 lying to LE charges, with the court 'math' I will never comprehend!

Bottom line, IMO, they are now saying she was NOT serving a sentence at the time the 'probation' was served. But, I thinnk if we do reverse math, she ultimately WAS credited with lying to LE sentence time @ the same time she supposedly served probation time while being incarcerated. DYKWIM?

I believe she will/should be forced to do the 1 yr probation... :banghead::waitasec::banghead::waitasec:

Exactly! It is all about Double Jeopardy versus Double Dipping. I am not a chemist BTW.

The DT want to argue semantics to Double Dip and have FCA serve probation while in jail AND gain credit for time served, i.e., have the cake and eat it.

Pick one IMO. Either do the Probation OR do the time for Lying to LE. I'd personally take the probation and not roll the dice.

If the Appeal lets FCA off-the-hook based on a technicality then .. this is a travesty for Justice and FCA is the persona of that.

If the Appeal gives FCA Probation then she dodged another bullet ... FCA should Go Directly Back to Jail, Do Not Pass GO, Do Not Collect $200 and serve the one year credit she got when she was really on Probation.

 

[krkrjx]

I'm not an attorney, nor do I pretend to be one on TV.
However, I find the DT reply a bit :waitasec:.
The smoke & mirrors now indicates DOC has policies in place whereby an inmate can serve probation IF she is not also serving a sentence at the same time.

In this scenario, FCA was serving time for check charges then probation for said charges and then, after sentencing on lying to LE, she was given time served for the 4 lying to LE charges, with the court 'math' I will never comprehend!

Bottom line, IMO, they are now saying she was NOT serving a sentence at the time the 'probation' was served. But, I thinnk if we do reverse math, she ultimately WAS credited with lying to LE sentence time @ the same time she supposedly served probation time while being incarcerated. DYKWIM?

I believe she will/should be forced to do the 1 yr probation... :banghead::waitasec::banghead::waitasec:

I agree completely. But...if she is not required to do the probation, she should have to go back to jail to serve one year on the lying charges considering that "year on probation while incarcerated" was also calculated as time served toward the lying charges.

However, I bet even if she does not have to do probation, the court and/or the SA will do nothing to fix the calculation error. Judge Perry is aware of the time-served issue; at the hearing he said..."a person can't serve probation and a sentence at the same time."

Still, I bet nothing is done about the time-served issue. If Casey skates on the probation issue, the court won't question anything further, IMO. And if the court does not take a stand on this, neither will the SA.

 

[Aedrys]

Time is running out for a decision today...

 

[rotterdam]

I'm not an attorney, nor do I pretend to be one on TV.
However, I find the DT reply a bit :waitasec:.
The smoke & mirrors now indicates DOC has policies in place whereby an inmate can serve probation IF she is not also serving a sentence at the same time.

In this scenario, FCA was serving time for check charges then probation for said charges and then, after sentencing on lying to LE, she was given time served for the 4 lying to LE charges, with the court 'math' I will never comprehend!

Bottom line, IMO, they are now saying she was NOT serving a sentence at the time the 'probation' was served. But, I thinnk if we do reverse math, she ultimately WAS credited with lying to LE sentence time @ the same time she supposedly served probation time while being incarcerated. DYKWIM?

I believe she will/should be forced to do the 1 yr probation... :banghead::waitasec::banghead::waitasec:

Or if the probation stands back to jail for the balance of the lying sentence that could not be served during that probation period.
In other words HHJP should adjust his 1042 days for credit towards that lying sentence for that 1 year of probation served while in jail..

 

[logicalgirl]

JB and CM have milked this one so ... they have handed off to LF to promote herself ... since she is more articulate, intelligent and, more diabolically defense-friendly devious. LF can split hairs, nuances and, semantics. She was driving most of the Defense anyway with JB and CM taking the upfront credit but is now in the forefront it seems. She is the only one who could go head-to-head with HHJBP. CM is way past his sell by date and, JB never even got there IMO.

Speaking of LF and her submissions - did she ever send those transcripts? I did notice a partial one of the Strickland verdict but not the most recent one or was I skipping through the bullcarp just a bit too fast?

 

[egnarts]

Exactly! It is all about Double Jeopardy versus Double Dipping. I am not a chemist BTW.

The DT want to argue semantics to Double Dip and have FCA serve probation while in jail AND gain credit for time served, i.e., have the cake and eat it.

Pick one IMO. Either do the Probation OR do the time for Lying to LE. I'd personally take the probation and not roll the dice.

If the Appeal lets FCA off-the-hook based on a technicality then .. this is a travesty for Justice and FCA is the persona of that.

If the Appeal gives FCA Probation then she dodged another bullet ... FCA should Go Directly Back to Jail, Do Not Pass GO, Do Not Collect $200 and serve the one year credit she got when she was really on Probation.[/QUOTE]

BBBM: Thanks for taking my thoughts one step further.
Faith in the justice system would be for the conclusion to go something along the lines of what you have indicated above! One yr in jail or 1 yr supervised probation in Orange County. :seeya:

 

[logicalgirl]

Or if the probation stands back to jail for the balance of the lying sentence that could not be served during that probation period.
In other words HHJP should adjust his 1042 days for credit towards that lying sentence for that 1 year of probation served while in jail..

I vote either one that includes serving the sentence back in jail..:seeya: LG holds hand up to vote...

 

[cyberborg]

I agree completely. But...if she is not required to do the probation, she should have to go back to jail to serve one year on the lying charges considering that "year on probation while incarcerated" was also calculated as time served toward the lying charges.

However, I bet even if she does not have to do probation, the court and/or the SA will do nothing to fix the calculation error. Judge Perry is aware of the time-served issue; at the hearing he said..."a person can't serve probation and a sentence at the same time."

Still, I bet nothing is done about the time-served issue. If Casey skates on the probation issue, the court won't question anything further, IMO. And if the court does not take a stand on this, neither will the SA.

BBM.

Based on the bolded statement, it'd be cool if HHJBP was offering up the probation to the Defense as an option and, if it is denied on Appeal he then calls FCA back to jail to serve out her time. He is secretly holding the plan B option card.

Do the Probation or do the time. We can all dream can't we?

 

[logicalgirl]

Time is running out for a decision today...

I know....:sigh: