Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #42

[LaLaw2000]

Known better yes..but at the time...the only "criminal" case was that of the missing gas and cans.

However, if those same cans turned up in that trunk and he removed them to place them back in the shed...he is guilty of tampering with evidence in that case. AND...if he did not tell LE those same gas cans returned...he is guilty of covering a crime because he would know Casey had taken them. THEN...if that doesn't do it...if he knowingly did not reveal the gas cans were in the car when the car was returned AFTER knowing his grandchild was missing and LE had examined the car...he is in deep doo.

Still trying to catch up on the posts!
Yes, George knew better than to touch anything in that car trunk! He knew what he smelled!
Also, I wonder if he called the police and told THEM he had the gas cans back? If he did not, he could be in trouble for that. It would have behooved him to tell the police that before it was printed in a newspaper.
O/T just a bit, but I wonder how many homeowners insurance claims the Anthony's may have made.
As for the gas cans - if they were the plastic ones, the bottom would be a rough surface - almost like a rough ring around the bottom so there may be carpet fibers stuck there from the car.
Also, if you are pouring gas out of a gas can, one hand will be on the bottom, and plastic holds really good prints!

 

[not_my_kids]

To my knowledge LE looked for her at Universal and she never worked there. I don't know if they found her or not, except in the movies.

I ran Patrick Bourgeois, the guy that said he went to school with her, and got an address in Saint Cloud FL, there is also a K Lewis registered at that address. Might be coincidence, but it struck me odd.

 

[Leila]

Real life has kept me from being online as much as I would like the past couple of days, but this case hasn't been far from my mind.

George has really got me stumped. When this case first broke, my immediate impression of George was that he was a hen-pecked husband who rarely got more than two words in during any conversation.

Yet, there's no doubt that George knew exactly what that stench in the car was, although at the time he was driving that car home and cleaning it out, he was unaware that his granddaughter was missing. As far as he knew then, Cindy was out picking up Casey and Caylee.

Sometime that evening, when Cindy brought Casey home and they learned that Caylee was missing, what was going through his mind when he remembered how bad that car smelled? Did he doubt his instincts? Did he believe Casey's story 100% and shove the smell of that car from his mind? With his experience as a former police officer, how could he not connect the dots?

For the last few days, Lee seems to have dropped out of the picture, and I think he's doubting his sister's stories. But, George and Cindy continue to maintain a kidnapping, when evidence suggests otherwise. None of this follows what is typical of cases of missing children. But, I still can't fathom an ex-police officer like George not seeing what is happening?

On a more personal level, today we attended a barbecue and I had a long conversation with a now retired detective for the Sacramento County Sheriff's Dept, who is now an attorney. He's loosely following this case, and said that of all the states, Casey Anthony picked the wrong state in which to murder a child. Based on what's been reported in the media, he feels certain Caylee is deceased, and Casey was involved in her child's death. He also said, LE is not waiting for Casey to talk, they're actively working all aspects of this case, including searches based on what they've uncovered.

 

[nursebeeme]

Nurse!!! :blowkiss: Any ideas as to WHY Casey had those gas cans? I don't buy the whole "car was out of gas thing". She had stolen her Mother's credit cards, right? Why would she need to steal gas in a can? I hate where my mind goes late at night, but it is a trip that I can only take with you WS'ers.

Some have speculated it was to burn evidence. Some have speculated that the credit theft and argument was what caused her to leave home so she was broke when she left, went to boyfriends...then he went on a vacay to visit family and she went to Amy's where she took blank checks and 700 dollars. The gas theft would have occured when she was broke.. on 24 June. www.myfoxorlando.com has reported that she had a history of stealing gas.

This is seriously the strangest case I have ever seen! You have a missing child. A mom with no worries partying, doesn't tell anyone but Jeff and "juliett Lewis" her child is missing... a car with dead body smell and a stain and hair matching the color and length (that was a huge clue if you ask me) to Caylee, gas theft, shovel borrowed, cadaver dogs....

Add on top of that the grandparents that have had conflicting statements~ The 911 calls were, imhoo, the truth...the only truth that we have heard so far.

I will wait for this week and forensics. I would bet on it if I had any poker chips and if I was a bettin' kind of girl. btw, if you didn't catch up to that point yet....forensics should be back this week (end of week I believe)

 

[summert1129]

I have come up with (yet another) theory. I will cross post it into the theories thread - but PER NURSEBEEME - she said to put it out there. I am totally comfortable about posting it as we don't know who else is reading along. IT IS JUST A THEORY and MY OPINION based on the facts and what we know in this case so far. Hope you like reading because it is kinda long.



Ok - here we go

Caylee is alive and well and living in Puerto Rico with her bio father - Ricardo! Amy and Ricardo took her to PR - it was ok with Casey as they just passed it off as a vaca. But- Ricardo had real suspicions that she was his. As far as we know, only Amy came back. But no one can tell me if he did. Ricardo has had enough time to do a paternity test - of course it came back that she is his.

The FBI has the resources we know that. I 'm willing to bet they have already checked this all out and even have Caylee on video in PR with daddy. They showed all this to Cindy and George on Wed - in that 6 hour meeting - the video, the paternity test - everything. Being its her father and this media circus they have - its safer right now to leave her there because. . . . .

Problem is they still have a murder - there was still a body in Casey's trunk and possibly in their (Cindy and George's backyard) and this body is still missing. Now the FBI doesn't get involved in "local" crime so its up to the OC sheriff to solve that one - hence the meeting with OC on Friday. Casey is still "in trouble" as this "body " was in her trunk.

With all these "players" involved and the party /drug crowd she runs with - they just can't come out and say "WE FOUND HER" without jeopardizing this other murder investigation - so they have told Cindy and George that Caylee is fine - even showed them videos - BUT - your daughter is still in trouble. Once we solve (or at least get to the bottom of this other, local investigation) we will not make a statement. If you (Cindy or George) go public - well then - GAME OVER and we charge Casey with murder (of whoever).

This explains Cindy and, especially George tonight saying Caylee is alive and well. It puts up a ruse to the public (and whoever else is involved in the "murder") that it is still all about looking for Caylee and solving HER murder. I think there are searches being done - but not for a little girls body.

I know this could be way off base - but look at how LE is handling this case. I have followed a LOT of cases and have NEVER seen LE behave this way. I don't put much credence into how the family acts - no one knows how they will act when faced with this type of situation. But - LE - this is what they do and especially the FBI - I have a HUGE respect for them and they know their "****". They have already solved that Rockefeller case - only took them a matter of days.

Only time will tell us the truth - its in those forensics. Once they come back - and I believe they do have at least preliminary ones which may already prove its NOT Caylee. I could be wrong - but if I'm wrong then that little angel is gone and I don't want to see that.

Casey is showing no emotion - because she knows Caylee is not dead - I mean even Susan Smith was snottin' and crying about her boys - until she cracked and it only took 9 days. Casey is a nut job - but she was still a mother. She is just ashamed that she had one put over on her and now "daddy" has her - Amy could have told her the jigs up when she got back. But she is still involved in some type of murder - or at least a cover up.

Crazy? What do you think?

Please be kind - lol

It's definitely a plausible scenario, and one that I'm hoping and praying for- that would mean that Caylee is safe. Like you said, time will tell...

 

[burningsky22]

I ran Patrick Bourgeois, the guy that said he went to school with her, and got an address in Saint Cloud FL, there is also a K Lewis registered at that address. Might be coincidence, but it struck me odd.

We should research that.

 

[LaLaw2000]

IMO, it may benefit the rest of the Anthony family greatly to hire an attorney. Honestly everytime the GM opens her mouth I cringe. She has told so many untruths and half truths that it is ridiculous. I don't know if it is because she is covering or in denial but what I do know is that if Casey is ever charged and ever goes to trial, the fact is that any attorney that is representing his client will present an alternative theory to this "crime". I honestly think that whatever they know or think they know needs to now go thru an atty. I honestly think that Casey's parents, especially Cindy could be in a lot of trouble. The more I listen to this story, the more I see an alternative theory of this case. I would hate for anyone to be destroyed when they had nothing to do with this crime.

JMO But instead of looking for personal assistant they need to look for a defense attorney.

At this point, I look for them to have an attorney any day now. He will tell them to shut their mouth.
I am disgusted with ALL of them!

 

[burningsky22]

At this point, I look for them to have an attorney any day now. He will tell them to shut their mouth.
I am disgusted with ALL of them!

Wasn't their a rumor that Baez was helping them?

 

[kathyn2]

What I don't get is why if George knows where Caylee is why he isn't going to get her and why he is passing out flyers. The general public doesn't know where Caylee is or who she is with or why she is with them yet he portends he knows and she is alive and well.

Of course I think that is BS and don't believe for a second she is ok. I hope and pray I am wrong but he makes no sense passing out all his flyers etc.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Well, Swag~ I have heard that theory before, but what doesn't work for me is that people would bury an unknown body in the Anthony's backyard. Not going to happen, imo. Caylee...yes. If she were killed at the house. It goes back to the last time Caylee was actually verified to be in a location. The location verified is at the assisted nursing center with Cindy. This would put Caylee in a probable location of Cindy's home afterwards. Everything beyond that time is pure speculation on anyone's part...because no one can place Caylee being ANYWHERE else!

 

[not_my_kids]

We should research that.

Doing what I can, but I have severely limited resources...that means I'm broke.

 

[ketel0ne]

What I don't get is why if George knows where Caylee is why he isn't going to get her and why he is passing out flyers. The general public doesn't know where Caylee is or who she is with or why she is with them yet he portends he knows and she is alive and well.

Of course I think that is BS and don't believe for a second she is ok. I hope and pray I am wrong but he makes no sense passing out all his flyers etc.

Why not send a message to the kidnappers that says we have money for the ransom you never asked for, please call us.

 

[burningsky22]

Doing what I can, but I have severely limited resources...that means I'm broke.

I will to, two heads are better then one.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

What I don't get is why if George knows where Caylee is why he isn't going to get her and why he is passing out flyers. The general public doesn't know where Caylee is or who she is with or why she is with them yet he portends he knows and she is alive and well.

Of course I think that is BS and don't believe for a second she is ok. I hope and pray I am wrong but he makes no sense passing out all his flyers etc.

George can't go get her. He would be followed to the airport. But, I'm wondering where is good ole Lee been? Haven't seen him around for a couple of days now. hhhhmmmmm maybe on a vacation?

 

[nursebeeme]

I posted a ? on another thread that never got answered-

Do ya'll suppose that the evidence they are looking for on the gas cans are (Ack)

MIXED DNA samples of C&C (ie blood/decomp of Caylee & sweat of Casey). Can they tell if mixtures of DNA are layered (one on top of the other) or put there at the same time (if it is not a mixture of 2 donors of BLOOD?

now that is one h~E~double hockey sticks of a good question! From my o~chem and p~chem days I would say they could tell with layering and a mixed sample. It will be easier if they have diff. blood types. beyond that...I don't know for sure....but I am sure that would be cake work, jmo.

 

[burningsky22]

George can't go get her. He would be followed to the airport. But, I'm wondering where is good ole Lee been? Haven't seen him around for a couple of days now. hhhhmmmmm maybe on a vacation?

I think Lee is adopted, he is the only one that makes any sense in all of this.

 

[nursebeeme]

:bedtime:

I am out of here for tonight. Keep up the good work, and I will try to catch up again tomorrow. I really hope this next week brings us some answers.

nite reeee!

 

[LinetteH]

Swag, your theory is a real possibility. I just saw the clip of George saying something about Caylee being alive and 6 a.m. If it is true your theory could be dead on and maybe she is being flown back home from PR... How wonderful it would be for her to be alive!!

 

[LaLaw2000]

You're welcome

Hey, I swing from thinking they didn't and they did. I am going to say this is in the nicest possible way, so don't flame me: I have a hard time wrapping my twisted little mind around them having the capacity for forethought to do so. Know what I'm sayin'?

LOL, I won't flame you at all! -
The family is living in denial. Also, the aforethought is going to be shown to have gaping holes in it. They probably thought they had cooked up the perfect plan. No body, all the stories, etc.
LE is good, but coupled with the FBI, they are GREAT! Casey and family might as well give it up, IMO!

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Well, Swag~ I have heard that theory before, but what doesn't work for me is that people would bury an unknown body in the Anthony's backyard. Not going to happen, imo. Caylee...yes. If she were killed at the house. It goes back to the last time Caylee was actually verified to be in a location. The location verified is at the assisted nursing center with Cindy. This would put Caylee in a probable location of Cindy's home afterwards. Everything beyond that time is pure speculation on anyone's part...because no one can place Caylee being ANYWHERE else!

I thought about that - but I think Casey is involved in the "other" cover up - up to her neck - "they" Casey and whoever went to the house (remember Cindy and George weren't home at the time) they were going to do it in the back corner - once there these "youngsters" realized they couldn't get a hole THAT DEEP or Casey said NO not here - so they stole the gas cans and took off again.