Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #69

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  • #241
Something Cindy said bothers me....

(paraphrasing)

Casey always called me if something was wrong w/ Caylee... ('if she was pulling on her ear' was one example she gave) then why didn't she call me if Caylee had an accident? If something was wrong, she would have called me.



But we know that Casey DID call her mother, father AND brother that afternoon & NOBODY picked up their phone. And we know she tried calling again a couple of hours later!

The reason this bothers me.... Cindy HAD to have known about the calls that WE knew about. This 'excuse' she's making does NOTHING to make Casey look any more innocent.... it really only helps build a case AGAINST Casey.

Is Cindy passive-aggressive or just dumb?? I don't get her.

I'm totally missing the point of your post. What excuse has Cindy given about not answering the calls? Even if Casey called Cindy every time Caylee sneezed, that does not mean Casey didn't also call for other reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with Caylee. I don't think it's a matter of Cindy being passive-agressive or dumb - she's telling the truth, that's all. Funny how people accuse her of obstructing justice while at the same time accuse her of doing things to make matters look worse for Casey. Poor woman can't win.
 
  • #242
She might have borrowed the shovel to pry open the shed to get the gas. Perhaps she didn't have much gas and no money and wanted to hide the body somewhere away from the home.

I also think she borrowed the shovel to open the shed and then--if she still needed a shovel--she took one from her parents' shed. She may have wanted to get a number of potential things from the shed: another shovel to take with her, the gas cannisters, maybe even a tarp possibly to wrap the body in.

And as far as the gas goes, she may also have needed the gas in the cannisters to burn the body rather than just needing it for gas and/or--if she traveled far w/ the body--she would not want to stop for gas and leave a receipt trail or take the risk of being sighted that far away from home (even if she paid for the gas in cash).
 
  • #243
I think if Caylee did drown. Than Casey would of called 911 and came up with a good lie to get her out of trouble..... For example, she went inside to get Caylee a drink, and it was just for a second.. And forgot the ladder was out..

I don't agree and this has been discussed at length before. Alot of people feel that if you follow Casey's unbelievable propensity for lying and covering up (stealing from Amy H. the dog story, etc) along with the fact that she is accountable for NOTHING, it seems that she would be selfish and protect herself. She wouldn't call 911. Who knows how long Caylee was in that pool before she found her. She panicked.

Casey cares about Casey period. We see it through her actions every day.
 
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I don't know how else to ask this so I'm just going to come out with it. Please don't anyone think badly of me because I feel that I have to consider this a possibility.
The gas cans... If Caylee drowned and Casey took the gas cans to do the "unthinkable" and then actually DID do the unthinkable, is it possible to...ummm....burn a body...and no trace of it be left unless someone knows a very specific location in which to look for evidence of that body? IF she did that..is it possible that Caylee is "gone" completely and that they may never find that poor child?
 
  • #246
I also think she borrowed the shovel to open the shed and then--if she still needed a shovel--she took one from her parents' shed.

She may also have needed the gas in the cannisters to burn the body rather than just needing it for gas and/or--if she traveled far w/ the body--not wanted to stop for gas and leave a receipt trail or take the risk of being sighted that far away from home (even if she paid for the gas in cash).

Sorry. You cant burn a body that way. The fire doesnt get hot enough and the smell would stretch farther than you would ever imagine.

She may have taken the gas to burn evidence but not a body.
 
  • #247
I'm sorry I was blowing margins y'all! I had no clue- I fixed it! Thanks magicrose for letting me know :)
 
  • #248
i agree.. i just don't buy the drowning theory. Just too easy to get out of for Casey!

I don't get either. Wouldn't she have screamed when she saw her in the pool, yelled for help, called 911. The neighbors would have heard something, they even noted that she backed into the driveway which was unusual. The houses there are close together. So she finds Caylee accidently drowned and she goes into cover up mode? Caylee being gone is easier to explain than accident in backyard where they live? And then she goes out partying for a month?
 
  • #249
Wow, after reading here for the last several weeks, I am finally a registered user authorized to post. I will be as brief and succinct as I can. I have been amazed at the tenacity with which posters have researched and shown concern for Caylee. As many of you, I have been unable to get her out of my mind. However, lately, the negativity and judgment that has been directed at Casey and the Anthony's in general, especially Cindy, I find troubling. We are not in her shoes, and the purpose of this forum as I understand it is to "sleuth" behind the scenes with the goal of assisting in finding this dear little one. So, no place for that really seems to exist here. I see Cindy Anthony as behaving very normal for all of the events related to this case, and I have followed multiple sources very closely. Before making judgments, I encourage others to do so as well. In addition, the conjecture and amateur diagnosis of Casey in regards to the mental health realm, regardless of what a poster's credentials are, is highly slanderous and unprofessional without a proper assessment of her. We need to pray for Caylee, love our children and ones close to us, and keep our eyes open for other vulnerable members of our society that may need us to step up and intervene for them, prior to a tragedy such as this. I choose to believe she is alive, but my ability to do that is waning.

I greatly appreciate the ability to access the links to media, documents, and myspace profiles that have been posted here, and request forgiveness if I have offended anyone. But...many of the comments are just juvenile at this point and frankly....mean. This is about a missing little girl....who was loved by all involved, including Casey, I believe that with my whole heart. Something went wrong, or a chain of events leading to disaster, she is troubled, but I saw true love when she looked at her daughter in the photos. I also had the opportunity to view the webshots pics of her and Caylee at birth and immediately following, I was impressed that a young girl such as Casey would take the time to nurse her baby, many young girls do not want to be bothered. Those pictures have since been taken down, but they showed a much different side. I fear she made some horrible mistakes, but I personally feel it was an accident and she is a habitual liar and is afraid or unable to stop the lying at this point.

The pictures taken at Fusian on June 20th (the blue dress), has anyone noticed that there is a different look in her eyes in them, it is almost like she is faking a smile and posing with no joy in her smile,just going through the actions. I wonder if this after something had happened to Caylee, probably did according to the timeline, and she was in a total state of ??????? that we can't define. I am not willing to judge her as I'm not her age in her shoes. I just try to understand and remember to love the ones around me and keep my eyes out for vulnerable people around us that need our support and caring....

Thank you for any of you who took the time to read my LOOONNNNNG post, and if I get banned, my intentions were good!
 
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  • #251
Wow, after reading here for the last several weeks, I am finally a registered user authorized to post. I will be as brief and succinct as I can. I have been amazed at the tenacity with which posters have researched and shown concern for Caylee. As many of you, I have been unable to get her out of my mind. However, lately, the negativity and judgment that has been directed at Casey and the Anthony's in general, especially Cindy, I find troubling. We are not in her shoes, and the purpose of this forum as I understand it is to "sleuth" behind the scenes with the goal of assisting in finding this dear little one. So, no place for that really seems to exist here. I see Cindy Anthony as behaving very normal for all of the events related to this case, and I have followed multiple sources very closely. Before making judgments, I encourage others to do so as well. In addition, the conjecture and amateur diagnosis of Casey in regards to the mental health realm, regardless of what a poster's credentials are, is highly slanderous and unprofessional without a proper assessment of her. We need to pray for Caylee, love our children and ones close to us, and keep our eyes open for other vulnerable members of our society that may need us to step up and intervene for them, prior to a tragedy such as this. I choose to believe she is alive, but my ability to do that is waning.

I greatly appreciate the ability to access the links to media, documents, and myspace profiles that have been posted here, and request forgiveness if I have offended anyone. But...many of the comments are just juvenile at this point and frankly....mean. This is about a missing little girl....who was loved by all involved, including Casey, I believe that with my whole heart. Something went wrong, or a chain of events leading to disaster, she is troubled, but I saw true love when she looked at her daughter in the photos. I also had the opportunity to view the webshots pics of her and Caylee at birth and immediately following, I was impressed that a young girl such as Casey would take the time to nurse her baby, many young girls do not want to be bothered. Those pictures have since been taken down, but they showed a much different side. I fear she made some horrible mistakes, but I personally feel it was an accident and she is a habitual liar and is afraid or unable to stop the lying at this point.

The pictures taken at Fusian on June 20th (the blue dress), has anyone noticed that there is a different look in her eyes in them, it is almost like she is faking a smile and posing with no joy in her smile,just going through the actions. I wonder if this after something had happened to Caylee, probably did according to the timeline, and she was in a total state of ??????? that we can't define. I am not willing to judge her as I'm not her age in her shoes. I just try to understand and remember to love the ones around me and keep my eyes out for vulnerable people around us that need our support and caring....

Thank you for any of you who took the time to read my LOOONNNNNG post, and if I get banned, my intentions were good!
:clap::clap::clap:
 
  • #252
respectfully snipped

One other thing....the parents always thought that Casey went off to work every day but Casey didn't work. I bet after her parents left she availed herself of the house and pool while they didn't know she was around. She wouldn't have anywhere else to spend her days.[/QUOTE]

I always thought the same thing. The time frame fits. George left for work....Casey said she was "going" to work, she leaves and comes back. The flurry of phone calls start at around 2:30 or 3. right after George left.
 
  • #253
welcome, TXRN :)
 
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That was my point.. you CAN fake the header

You type in the fake header below your message...

That is not the header I am speaking of. I am speaking of the routing headers that you will only see if you open the properties of the message. Similar to this

X-Apparently-To:xxxxx@🤬🤬🤬..net via
250.142.250.94; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:35:18 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [12.130.136.199]
Authentication-Results: mta130.mail.mud.com from=communications.corel.com; domainkeys=pass (ok)
Received: from 22.130.136.450 (EHLO flpi127.prodigy.net) (207.115.20.167)
by mta130.mail.mud.com with SMTP; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:35:18 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [22.130.136.450]

These are routing properties and they will show up in a forwarded email. Both senders can be traced back to their orgination and can not be faked unless you are a pro..
 
  • #256
the atty not wanting Casey to talk to her brother is in this video
http://www.local6.com/news/17000968/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news
VIDEO: Brother's Role Questioned (31st video from top)
bad part is the info isn't until the end of the video 'bout 3/4 in

Thank you

This is what brother Lee says on Casey's first phone call from jail - I find it trully interesting how Lee exhibits such a firm stance in not being pulled in Casey's circles and circles of lies and excuses. From his words you can assume he has some practice knowing how not to be victimized by her compulsive lying and not getting into fruitless arguments with her.

http://www.youtube.com
watch?v=jjD2RJW8gyw&feature=related

When Casey tells him she only wants the phonenumber of Tony, and what a 🤬🤬🤬*** waste it was calling them, and that ohhh by the way they should not 🤬🤬🤬** waste their time to come down in her first hearing for bond (nice emotional bullying right there again)...this is how Lee reacts

LEE ANTHONY: You know you are really having a tough..., making it really tough for anybody to want to try to....even if you
CASEY interrupts him
LEE ANTHONY: You didn't even let me finish
CASEY ANTHONY: she interrupts again
Lee ANTHONY: You are asking me, first you are asking me for Tony's phone number and then you immediately want to start () towards me and telling me don't even bother to come up here for all this stuff and trying to cut us out.
CASEY ANTONY: I am not trying to cut anyone out
Lee ANTHONY: I am not going round and round with you. You know that is pretty pointless. I am not gonna go through, I am not gonna put everybody else through the same stuff that you have been putting the police and everybody else through for the last 24 hours and the stuff you have been putting mom through for the last four or five weeks. I am done with that! So you can tell me what is going on, you know C would love to talk to you, do you think you can tell her what is going on, we're going to find out, something, whatever's going on, it's going to be found out. So why not do it now, save yourself...

p.s. my transcription, english not my first language so few mistakes probably there but not significant.
 
  • #257
Has anyone seen Greta--or anyone else--ask Cindy and George about those phone calls that went unanswered on 6/16 and then again on 6/18 (I think)? I'm sure the police have but I would love to hear Greta ask them specifically about those calls.
 
  • #258
Oh, I don't blame the parents at all for not answering their phone. I just wish someone with some sense had answered it and they would have known what happened to Caylee. I do think she is dead due to an accident and Casey couldn't face telling them later. I think in her panic she would have told them but as time went on she couldn't bring herself to tell them and made up that other story and carried on with her life like nothing happened. Maybe even to throw people off the scent that he daughter was dead. Pretend all was well to everyone.

This is exactly what I think also.

I think her family probably believes this also AND they must feel so much guilt.... going through the endless "what ifs" and maybe even feeling partially 'responsible.'

I do hope they all get counseling to deal with all these horrible emotions & horrors.

There's no way I hold THEM accountable for the way Casey turned out..... there are very few people in this world who grow up with perfect parents.... most families have their fair share of dysfunction & headaches.

Lee's a responsible adult. Casey never wanted to be one.
 
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  • #260
at this point, are we under general consensus that lee created the fake email from universal or casey? i am confused, im sorry if this has been addressed.

also: i apologize for any distraction that i personally caused. i love this community, i wouldnt jeopardize my place in it. and for that, i am truly sorry. i tried to drop the issue and i tried using PM. i respect you all, even if we disagree at times, and i never meant to annoy anyone, especially those who i have been discussing this case with for weeks...

I was under the assumption that the email was sent by Casey to Lee. Perhaps to say something like 'hey I am going to be working at this event on this day, do you think Mom could watch Caylee?' Or something to that effect
 
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