Caylee Anthony 3 year old General discussion #106

[Shutterfly]

It really doesn't matter because whatever the reason given if she isn't bailed out people will have opinions otherwise. We already know it will be a legitimate excuse.

I don't think they should let her out of jail. I don't believe that letting her out is going to be 'good' for Caylee any way you look at it. I don't think it would be good for the public, Casey, for her parents or for the neighbors. I don't think we've SEEN like the circus it will be if they let her out. The media frenzy will increase to epic proportion. None of this will do anything but hamper the ability of LE to do their jobs because they'll constantly be bombarded with and running down those who instigate confrontation and threats. Yes, we're frustrated. I can't imagine the media's frustration at trying to provide us the information that WE want. And the people trying to live there, they've got to be p*ssed. This thing is bound to come to a head...and soon.
An innocent child has been lost and we don't know what's really happened to Caylee. I have a really bad feeling about all of this media hype surrounding Casey's release or lack thereof. Someone is going to get seriously hurt...or worse...and I for one don't wish to watch THAT on live television.
I hope and pray, for that reason( and others of course), that they don't let her out. Nothing good can come of it..absolutely nothing.

 

[gibby207]

NAh, don't lurk. The posts fly and sometimes get missed or answered later on down the thread. Happens to me all the time! Just change your avatar cause you're not a stupid newbie.

Ha, that's a good idea....avatar switch might help. Thanks! LOL:woohoo:

 

[Amster]

Interesting....lead detective and another detective just went to the Anthony house and met wit George and Cindy for 45 min. Per Fox..

hmmmm....

 

[dunlurken]

Ok, I understand. So in a way, we are giving these people a place to test out their different defense strategies to see which one sticks the best.

I think for the majority here ;-), all we are looking for is the truth and so for me, that's what I will be focusing on - the facts. I think I'll go start that thread and we can post the facts there. I looked and there are so many threads on theories but not many on facts and nothing with all of them all together.

We don't have any facts though except that Caylee is missing and Casey is in jail.

 

[NighTillDawn]

Well if the Anthony's are busy reading here then who's keeping watch on the kidnappers? :waitasec:

In any case, they can try to close the barn door after the horse escaped but he's long on down the road and in the next state. My opinion remains the same.

To Suzie Q:

If and I say the word IF...there are kidnappers or a ZG, and they are reading WS , it's possible that they are just lurking and wouldn't sign up for an account unless they were trying to throw us a spin. How much does LE check this website for possible clues?
Okay i'll go back to banging my head now :banghead:

 

[LI_Mom]

Originally Posted by gibby207
Thanks for the link...I missed Greta last night. Also, thanks for answering my questions! I keep posting today and being overlooked and I hope this group doesn't think I'm a shark/rat/spy...I am seriously interested in this case and frustrated at the twit in jail who won't talk.

Maybe I'll just go back to lurking and the newbie thread...

No way! It's definitely unintentional.

The biggest problem is that the threads move so fast.... you can see 5 new pages in a minute & miss posts.

 

[ketel0ne]

Did you all just hear that on Shep? That this evening two detectives pulled up to Anthony's house in an unmarked car...the lead det included...got out and went in for a short time and then came back out. They were surprised to see media because eveyone has been camped out by the jail.

Yep Yuri Melich at the Anthony's for 45 mins. Supposedly a Miami Bail bondsman is holding up some things, Padilla's want it to sound like a competition?

 

[ShouldBWorking]

I totally agree Dunlurken. You think that in a month she would have been able to say hello to Caylee who had lived with her forever. That is disturbing. Do you really think Cindy thought everything was ok? She couldn't have, ya think?

we have NO IDEA the dynamics of this relationship, we have NO IDEA what type of power struggle went on between these two grown women and I find it disturbing that Cindy continues to be attacked here, until we know THE WHOLE STORY and not 90% assumption I don't think we should judge a grandmother whose life has been turned upside down who has been charged with NOTHING!

 

[dunlurken]

Interesting....lead detective and another detective just went to the Anthony house and met wit George and Cindy for 45 min. Per Fox..

hmmmm....

keep us informed.

 

[strach304]

I think Cindy said that on that morning she heard Casey and Caylee in their romm but didn't see them. George said he saw them leave with their backpacks. That's it.

And honestly, I am not even sure that those statements are true either. How bout you?

Yes and Casey was telling LE and Cindy that Caylee was missing since the 9th. Now we are starting to hear early July.

 

[STEADFAST]

See, I think we're seeing a bunch of posers launching a targeted campaign on this site. WS has been out front with incredibly timely and accurate information and intelligent discussion. Posers would try to cast everything and every theory into doubt and attack regulars to discredit the bloggers and posters. We already know that media, LE, lawyers and interested bloggers come here to read and perhaps post. The tone of these recent posts indicates something to me. Just a feeling.

It's certainly happened that way in other forums, too. Off hand, I can think of the Natalee Holloway, Michelle Young, and Tara Grinstead forums. New people sign up and start with same old diversionary tactics: "Look, an airplane!" or "Evidence is not evidence" or "Vast conspiracy" or "What crime?" and others.

 

[Amster]

Yep Yuri Melich at the Anthony's for 45 mins. Supposedly a Miami Bail bondsman is holding up some things, Padilla's want it to sound like a competition?

Yep. Powerful bail bondsmen from Miami.....

 

[gigi2009]

That's an interesting point. Why did LE not issue an Amber alert. I was "told" at the beginning of this case, only the parents/family members could issue an Amber Alert.

So, George can keep riding around in his truck dragging that billboard. Sheesh! :bang:

This is the criteria for Florida--some states have different variations.

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/amberplan/activation_process.html

To activate the AMBER alert the following five (5) criteria must be met.​

1. The child must be under 18 years of age. ​
2. There must be a clear indication of an abduction. ​
3. The law enforcement agency's investigation must conclude that the child's life is in danger. ​
4. There must be a detailed description of child and/or abductor/vehicle to broadcast to the public (photo when available). ​
5. The activation must be recommended by the local law enforcement agency of jurisdiction. ​

Steps For Activation

• The Amber alert can only be activated by law enforcement.​

 

[dunlurken]

we have NO IDEA the dynamics of this relationship, we have NO IDEA what type of power struggle went on between these two grown women and I find it disturbing that Cindy continues to be attacked here, until we know THE WHOLE STORY and not 90% assumption I don't think we should judge a grandmother whose life has been turned upside down who has been charged with NOTHING!

You are correct. What I was saying is that "if it were me". I am not Cindy, although I was accused of being her the other day. LOL.

 

[DianeB]

I don't have a problem with this....

we KNOW that Cindy was having serious problems with Casey.... the lying, the stealing & I'm guessing way too much going out & having fun & way too little staying home & being a MOTHER. Not a healthy relationship where you would really expect Casey would give a damn what her mother demands or says.

All the more reason for Cindy to have insisted on a more pro-active stance, if she thought Casey was unable to properly care for Caylee.

I’m sure Cindy is kicking herself (in private) harder than anyone else could at this point.

 

[Beagle1]

sorry for that last post. i accidently cut and pasted my earlier post from my word doc.

It's quite alright, DazzlinDeb. Why don't you tell us how you really think?
lol Can I second that vent?

 

[NighTillDawn]

That's an interesting point. Why did LE not issue an Amber alert. I was "told" at the beginning of this case, only the parents/family members could issue an Amber Alert.

So, George can keep riding around in his truck dragging that billboard. Sheesh! :bang:

I think the reason why an Amber alert wasn't released was because of the length of time Caylee's been gone....31 days +

 

[Themis]

Weighing of Evidence: Just because some evidence can be challenged doesn't mean it isn't accurate. It is up to the jury or trier of fact to weigh each piece of evidence and discern the importance of that evidence to proving each element of each charge in the case. Each charge has elements -- much like ingredients. If an ingredient is missing, it defeats the charge or may make it a lesser included charge that doesn't require that ingredient.

It is not required that each element or each piece of evidence be corroborated. Sometimes the rules of evidence do require corroboration. However, each item of evidence does not have to be scientifically tested. People can be convicted on witness testimony alone. People can be convicted on circumstantial evidence. Circumstantial evidence is when you draw a conclusion from evidence witnessed. Such as, if you see it raining and testify that it was raining that is direct evidence that you perceived by sight. If you go out and see that every lawn, sidewalk and street is wet and it couldn't have been everybody's sprinkler system, then you deduce from seeing wet surfaces that it rained. That's circumstantial evidence. Circumstantial evidence can be just as reliable as direct evidence.

 

[dunlurken]

This is the criteria for Florida--some states have different variations.

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/amberplan/activation_process.html

To activate the AMBER alert the following five (5) criteria must be met.​

1. The child must be under 18 years of age. ​
2. There must be a clear indication of an abduction. ​
3. The law enforcement agency's investigation must conclude that the child's life is in danger. ​
4. There must be a detailed description of child and/or abductor/vehicle to broadcast to the public (photo when available). ​
5. The activation must be recommended by the local law enforcement agency of jurisdiction. ​

Steps For Activation

• The Amber alert can only be activated by law enforcement.​

You rock! This could go on the facts thread if we ever have one. LOL. I think anything reported by the media is not FACT. JMO.

 

[gibby207]

Not to mention all the people in those photos with her who can testify to the date they were taken, should the need arise.

Hang in there, gibby, no one thinks you're a ratshark (whatever that is!).

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