Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #84

[songline]

I'm probably in the minority here but I feel sorry for the GP's and Lee. I think they are living a nightmare and cannot face the truth that's hitting them in the face and are willing to believe any alternative theory that says that Caylee is alive and that Casey is innocent. The truth at this point, is too much for them to take. I know it took Sharon Rocca a whole month to doubt Scott peterson and he was not even her son. Watching their story play out is like watching a train wreck. My heart goes out to them when they come to the realization that Caylee is gone and that Casey is responsible. I hope grief counselors are available. Cindy worries me the most. She may look composed but that realization may be too much for her to take.
so sad :-(

I am with you - I started out believing that Casey is Bipolar and is not handling this rationally.
But now I am thinking just like you. While I think they are all dysfunctional, I think that coming to terms with reality for the Grandparents is harder then dealing with their mentally challenged daughter.

 

[SuziQ]

I must say, as a parent, the first two years are easy, in a way.

And then they start talking and talking. I can't help but wonder if the poor baby spilled the beans about something her mother said or did and Casey took it out on her.

 

[Mendara]

You make a lot of valid points here IMO. She appeared to be a caring mom in some of the early photos, I think she gave it a try, found she didn't care for being a mom anymore b/c it put a cramp in her style. Also if her mother wasn't willing to let her continually mooch off of the family any longer and was pushing Casey to move out, How would she afford to care for Caylee, she didn't a have a job ( or at least a legit one) and what little money she had she obviously used to party, or mooched off her man of the moment. I think Caylee became an inconvience to her and she would never give her mother the satisfaction of admitting she didn't want to be a mom and let Cindy raise her, so she did away with her. How I dnt' know, but that's my take, AT LEAST FOR THE MOMENT! I never know what to think with this crowd, so many changes.

This is key. This case is about mothers and daughters. I became a mom at 15 and I know how it feels to want to go out with friends and not be able to, I also know how it feels to watch your own mother being a BETTER MOM to your child than you could ever be and then have your mother doing everything and then BOOM suddenly your mother is NOT there and you have to be the best crappy mother you can be and you absolutely NEVER want to risk your pride by asking your mother for help, HOWEVER I loved my son and I fought through that and I am not a phsychotic sociopath habitual liar, but if you combine that life experience with a personality disorder and a self indulging brat like Casey - you get the worse possible outcome MURDER.

I mean her parents are still protecting her so I bet she thinks she i wll get away with it.

 

[impatientredhead]

I must say, as a parent, the first two years are easy, in a way. You and the kid are center of attention. Besides changing diapers, you can move around freely, cause it's like you're carrying a sack o potatoes. Then at 2 years old -- in the third year -- things get messy. Potty training, the beginning of disciplining, running all over the place after the kid, etc. And then those around you aren't as interested in helping out., because the luster has worn off and it's real work. For instance, you can go out to dinner w/an infant. But it's too distracting once they get to be two. (throwing food, screaming, etc) Normal parents deal with it as they do every other stage of development. BUt for someone who is young and loves to party...I can see a different scenario. So it doesn't surprise me to see a "loving mother" for the first year and a half to two years and then a change thereafter.

May 6, 2008 11:45 AM
thanks hun. that's the plan. it's pretty impossible to relax around caylee, but i'm trying. she's being pretty good, thankfully.

Posted by Casey.

 

[Dorvillian]

The Craigslist poster has posted in several different cities. There is no virus, the post directs you to a Bebo.com account.

There is no relevant information whatsoever on the Bebo.com account - the writing style of the poster suggests that it is a person suffering from schizophrenia.

 

[lilacwine]

I know... I believe the dogs too...

Is it possible that there was another dead body there... sure... maybe that is why the Olveido people have Caylee....

It's also possible that I'll be a size 3 again someday...

Will it happen? Is it probable??? No.

Nothing would make me happier than this turning into an Elizabeth Smart type of against all odds story....and I'm sure the family keeps thinking that....

because if I were them... I would...

But, unfortunately, this size 12 is painfully aware of the probable.. and in this case... Caylee is probably not here any longer.

 

[Blink34]

My personal opinion about the "physics" is this ... at least they are out there actively searching in the trenches of the woodlands, in the Florida heat, with their dogs. They are dealing with lots of snakes in the wooded areas along with getting bitten up by the mosquitos. The dogs on this search are truly feeling the Florida heat!

If you take away the title "physics" and just let it be a few people with their dogs in the Florida heat randomly looking for Caylee, would we then be ripping them apart or would we be praising them for at least trying.

Listen to their frustration to people ripping them apart.
http://www.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.com/gale/audio/cayleepart5.MP3

These people are taking time out of their lives to come to Florida and do this search. Sure they asked for some financial help as they will have traveled 3,000 miles round trip, and have to eat and sleep somewhere. There lodging and food is coming out of their own pockets.

I am not a follower of this group, just someone that is thankful that a few people not associated to Orlando or the family is at least trying to find Caylee.

I think you mean PSychics, not physics, I skimmed your post incorrectly.
I really had hoped to put this to bed yesterday, however, there are a few facts that have not been disclosed by this "team".

They are taking time out of their lives to search after soliciting funds to do so- they were NOT invited as GSJ said on NG.
They are attempting to sell a show "The BodyHunters" which the pilot for which has not yet been bought... If they had gone done there ON THEIR OWN, quietly without INVITING the press, you may have a valid point.

I dont know about you but my food comes out of my pocket as does everyone's wherever I am except for business. which is unrelated.
Question: if they get enough press and the show now gets picked up, will they be returning the donations?? Will they offer to shoot the show for free and donate the profits??

 

[dee10134]

Has there been any information on who watched Caylee while Casey partied???

Zenaida Gonzales supposedly had taken Caylee. After Caylee went missing, Casey told LE that she was out in the clubs "desperately" searching for Zenaida Gonzales, who reportedly hung out in those same clubs.

But I see where you're coming from. PRIOR to Zenzida Gonzales, who the heck was watching Caylee while Casey went out?! Has there been any talk about that?

 

[redmamatwo]

I must say, as a parent, the first two years are easy, in a way. You and the kid are center of attention. Besides changing diapers, you can move around freely, cause it's like you're carrying a sack o potatoes. Then at 2 years old -- in the third year -- things get messy. Potty training, the beginning of disciplining, running all over the place after the kid, etc. And then those around you aren't as interested in helping out., because the luster has worn off and it's real work. For instance, you can go out to dinner w/an infant. But it's too distracting once they get to be two. (throwing food, screaming, etc) Normal parents deal with it as they do every other stage of development. BUt for someone who is young and loves to party...I can see a different scenario. So it doesn't surprise me to see a "loving mother" for the first year and a half to two years and then a change thereafter.

Yeah, I have a three year old daughter as well. You whole life changes when they hit the so called "terrible twos" ( IMO should be terrible threes, geezsh, anyone who said terrible twos never had a three year old :crazy Everything is different, I am not sticking up for her in anyway shape or form, but I can see how the differnent demands could make an already unstable person snap. I have had to dig deep for patience myself. I am a very good mother, not tooting my own horn or anything like that, but you just have to be realistic about what demands your child has and learn to change with them. IDK if that has anything to do with anything, but wanted to say I agree with you.

 

[Themis]

Reasons for kidnapping:

Revenge
Ransom
Extortion
Spite
Custodial

I am sure there are more, I just can't see one that fits here.

Silence -- making sure sombody keeps quiet about something they witnessed?

 

[dee10134]

Reasons for kidnapping:

Revenge
Ransom
Extortion
Spite
Custodial

I am sure there are more, I just can't see one that fits here.

Sex offender....

 

[dee10134]

but the invisible nanny must be riding the unicorn.:bang:

lmao!

 

[diablo]

We still have the FACt that TWO different dogs hit in the yard & trunk.

but that was a setup by the kidnappers !
and they also happened to put some hair & fluid in there.

This is either the most simple crime, like most believe, or it is one of grandest conspiracies since the Nicole Simpson-Colombian druglords theory

 

[Blink34]

Yes ...

sorry for the duplicate on that, something funky with WS is taking really long to load, apologize, addressed your post below.

 

[wishingtree]

Has anyone followed up on the Craiglist link on page 5 of the media links thread?

If so, can someone point me to the thread where there was a discussion about it?

I'm interested in that lead.

I read about that lead last night and my thought on it was this: if it is legitmate and LE really isn't taking it seriously, why doesn't he report it to the press?

I'll give a personal example of mine while trying to leave out as much detail as possible to protect my identity and role in the case I'm going to reference:

There was a handsome young man who brutally murdered his girlfriend (who frighteningly looked VERY MUCH like me!) and he had been on the run for 2 weeks. The police and news outlets were running his photo, but never mentioned any possibility of his whereabouts. My place of employment was home to thousands of young people - some of whom were underage. A private email was sent out to those of us in upper management that the "suspect" (who was guilty and eventually sent to prison) had been spotted on our grounds and the select few of us were warned to be careful. The only reason this email was sent out was b/c another coworker was dating someone in local LE and he had told her about it since he was concerned for her safety. She had the good sense to tell her manager, who then at least told someone in upper management who then sent the email out to a select few of us. However, no warning was ever given to the 1000's of other employees or young people in residence. The suspect was very attractive and I knew that he could easily con some naive young girl into giving him a place to stay and was torn by what to do. I forwarded the email to my fiance who was FURIOUS! Since LE already knew and weren't releasing the info we couldn't go that route, so he contacted every local news channel and told them the story and then edited my name out of the email and forwarded it to the reporters who would listen to him. Within hours it was on the news and my employer was placed under scrutiny for not coming forward. So they made a last ditch attemp to cover there *** by printing up fliers with the suspects picture on it with the info that he had been spotted in the area. The next morning over 100 young people came forward saying they had seen him over the week and seen him in laundry rooms, and had brief discussions with him and just thought he belonged there. He was caught the next day when a young lady spotted him in a public area on our property and immediately called police. He was arrested, went to trial, and is now in prison. What if my fiance hadn't taken it upon himself to take this info to the media? Scary thought!

Sorry this was so long, and I'm not suggesting that in the case LE is hiding any information about a dangerous suspect, as I think they have that person in custody. What my point is that some people who seem a little less than credible or who have stories that LE either doesn't believe or have time to get to may actually be onto something legitimate and there is always going to be some reporter somewhere who is more than willing to make headlines by exposing it. Whether or not this person is legitmate can be left for the media to decide, but I don't understand why this person doesn't send the information to a reporter if he/she feels that strongly about it. Again sorry for the length - should I move this to the rant post? :blushing:

 

[FLbeachdawg]

I hope that when and IF this case ever ends, and it's learned these self proclaimed psychics are NOT what they appear to be, people will realize this is hockus pokus and should not be inserted into missing person's cases.

It's disruptive to the investigation and also the mental well being of the victim's family. False hopes, false leads.

What these people put the family through is very sad, imo.

JMHO
fran

I completely agree...I mean hey what are they doing with cadaver dogs for? If they are psychic then why do they need dogs?

 

[SuziQ]

In the article above, George referred to "people assisting outside the normal scope of things." Does anyone else think these people could be scam artists trying to get money from the family by preying upon the grief-stricken grandparents, trying to give them hope Caley is alive?

You may be onto something here. Does anyone remember the case of the missing woman and her parents who spent every last penny they had paying a PI and a mercinary to help? Only to find out years later and when they were in the poorhouse they had been taken for a ride. They had paid for the travel and partying of these two yahoos all over Mexico and South America because these guys claimed to have solid info?

God I hope this isn't the case here! Someone better be monitoring how that search money is being spent.

 

[lostnfound85]

Generally, if there was a "biological" father(how would he know for sure) that was interested in gaining custody, other attempts would have made thru more legal avenues to do so, it's highly unlikely out of the blue she would be kidnapped when no previous interest was noticed.

 

[Amster]

George....hon...Bless your heart. You're looking and sounding like a really crazy person. Go home. Someone filled you with a load of bull....didn't show up to meet you....please tell me that you didn't pay them for this worthless info.....

 

[curiositycat]

I completely agree...I mean hey what are they doing with cadaver dogs for? If they are psychic then why do they need dogs?

LOL.:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh: