Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #90

[liltigress]

No that is about an Orange Co. wonan that was attacked while riding her bike.

Oh wow... I hadn't heard about that. That could be too.

 

[SelmaClue]

No normal person could do this AND then go party.

Sleuthster --- this is the whole thing, in a nutshell. It doesn't make a bit of difference whether the baby was kidnapped or died. The fact is, Casey went out partying after June 15-17 ..... on June 20th, to be exact. There are photos and witnesses (Clint, for one) to prove it.

 

[cheko1]

I would have to respectfully disagree. That type of programming would cause resentment between Lee and Casey and there doesn't seem to be much. It could be well-hidden, but I think by now it would have slipped. He wouldn't have been on TV saying that he supported her completely, he would have been saying that he is not a bit surprised, she has always been spoiled and it was only a matter of time. That's just my opinion.

Casey whining to always get her way...Casey is so flipping cute / ahhhhh look at how Casey does this or that / Casey is so smart / Casey does everything better / Casey is adorable / can't make Princess Casey mad/ poor Casey everyone always picks on her / nope Casey would never consider doing that / Casey is such an angel......& on & on. It happens in many many families.

Lee grew up to protect his baby sister, he was the big brother & still is. Why wouldn't he of went on TV & stated he supported her completely? The entire family has done that......with Casey lieing the way she has.....Cindy has also upheld her to the max / George too /on National TV Cindy stated its ok to lie & Gerorge sat right next to her & never disagreed Sooo why would Lee be ANY different??? He upholds Casey to the MAX.

 

[lilacwine]

Thanks for the Tara Grant id!

I found a new channel on tv that has all FBI investigates etc... but I tend to multitask and miss a lot.

 

[SelmaClue]

Just wondering why there is police tape up.

It's a law enforcement exercise training site.

 

[pizmex]

I agree, I am just not falling into the accident believer group.

Another thing that I have to add, if it was an accident, and what many on her have suggested happened, (caylee died, she was put in trunk or room or somewhere for days and then Casey got shovel from neighbor and burried her) how could this mother who loved her child see and smell the death of her child and do these things, IF IT WHERE an accident.

No normal person could do this AND then go party.

Why not? Are you saying that putting your child in a car trunk overnight is normal enough that a mother would have no problem reporting her child's death resulting from that act? I would think that if Casey is capable of having Caylee sleep inside of a car trunk so as not to interrupt her evening with Tony, she is capable of covering up the whole incident.

Exactly, it is not normal and the act of someone who would have caused the death of her loving child BY ACCIDENT. This is why I dont believe it was an accident.

I'm losing your train of thought. Putting aside words like "accident" and "intent" and "homicide", do you think it's impossible that Caylee could've been left to die in a car trunk? Are you saying that the car trunk theory is unlikely because Casey would have reported the incident if it happened in her car trunk?

Because if that's what you're saying, I disagreee, based on my last post.

 

[shannon718]

It's got to be obvious to Casey at this point that Tony wants nothing to do with her or her family. Tony flew the coop the day Casey was arrested.....hasn't visited her in jail at all. This fact is kind of revealing, in a way. (Kind of.) Her boyfriend (and the roommate Clint claims Tony and Casey were getting pretty tight) doesn't support Casey during this time. If they were tight, why doesn't he support her like Casey's parents and brother are supporting her?
:waitasec:

Because he was the one most privy to her behavior during the crucial time that Caylee was "missing". He also put his myspace mood on "nauseated' during the week that the news broke. (his page is no longer there)

He knows that she is a liar.

 

[Sleuthster]

Sleuthster --- this is the whole thing, in a nutshell. It doesn't make a bit of difference whether the baby was kidnapped or died. The fact is, Casey went out partying after June 15-17 ..... on June 20th, to be exact. There are photos and witnesses (Clint, for one) to prove it.

I went on an expensive cruise in May, time for hubby and I to spend together, wanted to jump ship before we even left port and was worried the whole cruise, because I left the baby with my DD even though I knew she was responsible. Couldnt stop worrying.
Went to Disney last week, DH wanted to leave baby with DD BUT he knew I would worry about her so we took her with us, she had a grand time as did I knowing she was safe with us.

POINT is... I could not fathom leaving my baby with a stranger and go out partying, or if she died live with my self and go out partying. Casey did not appear misserable in her pics from Fusion.

 

[floridamom]

July 3 Cindy writes her blog about being distraught and Caylee being taken away

Is this blog posted anywhere? I would like to read it again but I don't remember where it is.

 

[Sleuthster]

I'm losing your train of thought. Putting aside words like "accident" and "intent" and "homicide", do you think it's impossible that Caylee could've been left to die in a car trunk? Are you saying that the car trunk theory is unlikely because Casey would have reported the incident if it happened in her car trunk?

Because if that's what you're saying, I disagreee, based on my last post.

No, I dont think she was left in trunk to die. I think she was put in there afterwords to hide the body until she could dispose of it.

I think....I think she hit her, or shook her, or used intent to kill her. She was tired of being burdened and wanted to get rid of her. Think Susan Smith. This is JMO of course.

 

[donnam]

I just cannot pounce on the GP's and the way they are acting.
It looks to me like George has moved in to he "Anger" phase of the grief process. People move into each phase at different times.

Five Stages Of Grief

1. Denial and Isolation.
   At first, we tend to deny the loss has taken place, and may withdraw from our usual social contacts. This stage may last a few moments, or longer.
2. Anger.
   The grieving person may then be furious at the person who inflicted the hurt (even if she's dead), or at the world, for letting it happen. He may be angry with himself for letting the event take place, even if, realistically, nothing could have stopped it.
3. Bargaining.
   Now the grieving person may make bargains with God, asking, "If I do this, will you take away the loss?"
4. Depression.
   The person feels numb, although anger and sadness may remain underneath.
5. Acceptance.
   This is when the anger, sadness and mourning have tapered off. The person simply accepts the reality of the loss.

 

[lilacwine]

July 3 Cindy writes her blog about being distraught and Caylee being taken away

Is this blog posted anywhere? I would like to read it again but I don't remember where it is.

Check the myspace thread... it'd be cindy's myspace

 

[TonyGatto]

Because he was the one most privy to her behavior during the crucial time that Caylee was "missing". He also put his myspace mood on "nauseated' during the week that the news broke. (his page is no longer there)

He knows that she is a liar.

Because they were taken in by her lies -- and now that they realize what they were dealing with -- they are disgusted.

 

[pizmex]

No, I dont think she was left in trunk to die. I think she was put in there afterwords to hide the body until she could dispose of it.

I think....I think she hit her, or shook her, or used intent to kill her. She was tired of being burdened and wanted to get rid of her. Think Susan Smith. This is JMO of course.

Gotcha. That's also a possibility. I'm not ruling out an intentional act. But I'm not ruling out some grossly negligent or careless act either. And throw in the possibility that the child may have been habitually doped up to induce sleep, and there is even more incentive for Casey to cover up the incident.

 

[tehcloser]

I just cannot pounce on the GP's and the way they are acting.
It looks to me like George has moved in to he "Anger" phase of the grief process. People move into each phase at different times.

snipped.

Just because someone believes the gps are covering, does not mean we are pouncing on them. You have to look at the way they have acted since this has started. The whole family lies. Usually there is a reason for that.

 

[not_my_kids]

Casey whining to always get her way...Casey is so flipping cute / ahhhhh look at how Casey does this or that / Casey is so smart / Casey does everything better / Casey is adorable / can't make Princess Casey mad/ poor Casey everyone always picks on her / nope Casey would never consider doing that / Casey is such an angel......& on & on. It happens in many many families.

Lee grew up to protect his baby sister, he was the big brother & still is. Why wouldn't he of went on TV & stated he supported her completely? The entire family has done that......with Casey lieing the way she has.....Cindy has also upheld her to the max / George too /on National TV Cindy stated its ok to lie & Gerorge sat right next to her & never disagreed Sooo why would Lee be ANY different??? He upholds Casey to the MAX.

It does happen in many families, including mine. I do agree that Lee is supporting Casey, but not in the resentful way of someone that has heard the "precious Casey" spiel for a lifetime. I think they were both spoiled. Daddy's littl egirl and Mommy's little boy, that's the way it usually is. I think if this had been reversed and Lee was the one in the hotseat, the family would be acting the same, with Casey taking the role that Lee has now.

 

[SelmaClue]

Any mods here to close and start new thread?

 

[shannon718]

I just cannot pounce on the GP's and the way they are acting.
It looks to me like George has moved in to he "Anger" phase of the grief process. People move into each phase at different times.

Five Stages Of Grief

1. Denial and Isolation.
   At first, we tend to deny the loss has taken place, and may withdraw from our usual social contacts. This stage may last a few moments, or longer.
2. Anger.
   The grieving person may then be furious at the person who inflicted the hurt (even if she's dead), or at the world, for letting it happen. He may be angry with himself for letting the event take place, even if, realistically, nothing could have stopped it.
3. Bargaining.
   Now the grieving person may make bargains with God, asking, "If I do this, will you take away the loss?"
4. Depression.
   The person feels numb, although anger and sadness may remain underneath.
5. Acceptance.
   This is when the anger, sadness and mourning have tapered off. The person simply accepts the reality of the loss.

No where in these stages of grief does it list "delusion" which is what I see with the Anthony's. I was very compassionate of them for quite some time with their behavior as of late that is becoming next to impossible. They are doing nothing but confusing this investigation and hindering the jobs of LE and the FBI everyday who by the way are the only people involved in this that are looking for Caylee in any realistic or effective way. They complain about the media circus yet exacerbate it with their every move and outrageous claims that have NO basis in fact. Instead of protecting their pathological liar of a daughter they should be protecting that beautiful innocent baby that never told a lie in her life and didn't deserve any of this.

It makes me sick.

 

[floridamom]

Check the myspace thread... it'd be cindy's myspace

Thanks, got it!

July 3 Cindy posted this on Myspace
Thursday, July 03, 2008
my caylee is missing
She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don't know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother's love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?

I think this says alot!! I think it shows that whatever happened it was in anger toward Cindy. Casey, whatever she did with Caylee, was doing it for payback to Cindy. And I also think this confirms what the neighbor said about lots of fighting from the Anthony's house.

 

[Amity]

Just for the record....

Those of you on the NOT-AN-ACCIDENT bench, could you please skooch over so's I can sit with ya?

If that precious child is no longer with us, Casey will surely tell of the horrible 'accident' that happened...with all her Caseyisms, twists, turns and way more information that is required. Reading her law books surely she knows by now that accident=manslaughter vs. on purpose=1st or 2nd degree murder.
No way will she admit to something done on purpose. But if that child is gone, it was done on purpose, no accident IMHO.