Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed Utah 09/10/25

[GumshoeX]

I would hope too that he is recognized by somebody, somewhere, and turned in.

However, IMO it’s not really equivalent to the type of people who cruelly grab away baseballs and caps from kids in the stands.

Those people are standing in a stadium surrounded by 50,000 to 80,000 other people, with their faces exposed and in full view of the cameras. They appear to act impulsively.

Whereas it seems to me that this gunman, 200 feet away and up on a roof, acted in a well-planned manner, hidden away, and with expertise. Not a spontaneous act in front of the world.

For all we know he may have been masked or otherwise had his face obscured.

I’d love it if the investigators could find any DNA from when he was perched on the roof, but he seems too well-prepared. Hopefully he may be found through a license-plate reader or at least images of his car on video.

IMO

The UVU campus did moved to license plate readers a few years ago. They used to require stickers in the window, but now the parking enforcement is handled via licenses plate scanner as they drive up and down the parking lot. They are pretty strict on campus and even adjacent neighborhoods require a special pass to park on the street.

Maybe they can get some DNA. It has been +90 degrees here all summer long. Hopefully the was sweating and nervous.

 

[NottaYutz]

Plastering this everywhere on random social media is I think really disrespectful to him and those mourning him. Sure people want information but this is someone’s life. Take some time to mourn the victim. LE can look at all the vids. - they are the experts. That’s their job. Think of his wife and family. I won’t be viewing but that’s my choice.

I understand and respect your concern. I recall the same type responses as yours to the video of Daniel Pearl's beheading. Witnessing actual death is anathema to most people; it's much easier (and socially acceptable) to view death in a fictional setting. (Perhaps I am able to tolerate the witnessing because of my neurodiversity. I loathe horror movie violence yet real violence I feel as "I want to witness this reality, so removed from my own, to honor the victim.")

 

[Knox]

I’m a wait and see kinda gal. You said “taken a page out of another shooter’s book” effectively. Whatever you meant, and it wasn’t clear to me anyway, it seems a bit early to say he’s anything like the PA shooter or that the shootings have much in common. I’ll wait and see what comes out.

The shooter shot someone on a stage, at a public outdoor event, from the roof of an adjacent building. That’s exactly what Crooks did.

I never mentioned a motive in my post.

 

[Elley Mae]

You can see the shooter running across the roof after shooting Charlie.

Chilling clips possibly show Charlie Kirk assassin on rooftop moments before and after fatal shooting at UVU

The clip was filmed from inside a Utah Valley University building behind the tent where Kirk was speaking.

nypost.com

 

[Sundog]

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/united-states/charlie-kirk-mourned-by-world-leaders-from-uk-israel-and-italy-after-shocking-utah-assassination/news-story/8469f7ec751ad1474d443480b94b3e81

Charlie Kirk mourned by world leaders from UK, Israel, Italy, and others

 

[wendy44]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965913114450501983

I was at the Kennedy Center tonight and they also had a moment of silence. I'm so sad for those children, they're so young.
JMO

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I am catching up (as usual) so hopefully not repeating anything already discussed. I tried to scan through the thread!

Very curious age and who the killer will be and their motive. Easy to assume political which seems most likely.

Oddly the first thing I thought for some reason was of those Zizians! No idea why as their leader and many of them are locked up so not likely... but it did cross my mind. MOO

 

[Lalalacasbah]

The UVU campus did moved to license plate readers a few years ago. They used to require stickers in the window, but now the parking enforcement is handled via licenses plate scanner as they drive up and down the parking lot. They are pretty strict on campus and even adjacent neighborhoods require a special pass to park on the street.

Maybe they can get some DNA. It has been +90 degrees here all summer long. Hopefully the was sweating and nervous.

Excellent thought about the weather/heat, sweat and DNA! I think the suspect(s) will be found soon.

 

[Sundog]

Was he poised to be competition to anyone higher up in the hierarchy? Did he have sensitive (damaging) intel on anyone of importance in the political heirarchy?

Charlie was deeply loved by all the conservative leaders, and he loved them equally. This was not an intra-party assassination.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

People talk about the security around Charlie Kirk and it does seem very minimal not just because of the prominent speaker that he was but also because it was such a crowded event. I can't believe there were no security details on the nearby roofs considering the large gathering of people.

This person got one shot and one kill and was able to leave undetected with a rifle on his person. He possibly had his getaway clothes underneath his black outfit, disassembled the rifle and put it in a non conspicuous bag with a stolen car awaiting for him. I'm not too sold on the professional assassin angle considering a pro sniper would have scored a headshot but there was a lot of planning involved to carry out and escape a location with so many cameras in place.

Or maybe, CK was shot in the neck to point away from suspicion of a professional sniper?

I guess the longer this goes, the more I'd venture to believe it was a professional considering there has to be a digital footprint of the assailant entering and exiting the building he shot from. Maneuvering through that digital minefield without getting caught is next level ops.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I was at the Kennedy Center tonight and they also had a moment of silence. I'm so sad for those children, they're so young.
JMO

Me too. It comes down to being human first and not a label of view point, culture, religion, politics, etc. etc. etc. etc.

No matter how you cut it - the children are such victims as well.

 

[NottaYutz]

This is not an intra-party assassination.

Once all the facts are in, that may turn out to be the case. Until all the facts are in, that's merely conjecture.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

I am catching up (as usual) so hopefully not repeating anything already discussed. I tried to scan through the thread!

Very curious age and who the killer will be and their motive. Easy to assume political which seems most likely.

Oddly the first thing I thought for some reason was of those Zizians! No idea why as their leader and many of them are locked up so not likely... but it did cross my mind. MOO

I think it will be somebody in their late teens or in their 20s. These young men, through video games are militarized with sniping in first person shooter games. Lots of young guys these days, through playing fps games like Call of Duty fantasize about being snipers.

Just my amateur opinion.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

People talk about the security around Charlie Kirk and it does seem very minimal not just because of the prominent speaker that he was but also because it was such a crowded event. I can't believe there were no security details on the nearby roofs considering the large gathering of people.

This person got one shot and one kill and was able to leave undetected with a rifle on his person. He possibly had his getaway clothes underneath his black outfit, disassembled the rifle and put it in a non conspicuous bag with a stolen car awaiting for him. I'm not too sold on the professional assassin angle considering a pro sniper would have scored a headshot but there was a lot of planning involved to carry out and escape a location with so many cameras in place.

Or maybe, CK was shot in the neck to point away from suspicion of a professional sniper?

I guess the longer this goes, the more I'd venture to believe it was a professional considering there has to be a digital footprint of the assailant entering and exiting the building he shot from. Maneuvering through that digital minefield without getting caught is next level ops.

Was it discussed on the thread or known if this was "considered a good shot"? Meaning, was it a hard shot to make from just anyone? Or was above average skill involved?

I had wondered myself, was killer initially aiming for head? I guess that would be most likely for an execution.

Or did they want the neck? I find it eerily coincidental that poor Ukranian girl on the train was stabbed I think on the same side of her neck? Don't worry no conspiracy here on my part, just odd to see similar wounds in the news so close together. Horrifying both of them MOO

 

[Knox]

In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, local police arrested a man named George Zinn, whom they later determined “did not match the shooting suspect and was not an accurate person of interest.” He was released but for reasons that have not been made public, he was charged with obstruction by UVU police.

Charlie Kirk Shooting: Person of Interest Not a Suspect, Shooter Still at Large

No details about the suspect have been made public and the FBI has established a tip line

ca.news.yahoo.com

So does this mean they do have a description of the shooter?

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Was it discussed on the thread or known if this was "considered a good shot"? Meaning, was it a hard shot to make from just anyone? Or was above average skill involved?

I had wondered myself, was killer initially aiming for head? I guess that would be most likely for an execution.

Or did they want the neck? I find it eerily coincidental that poor Ukranian girl on the train was stabbed I think on the same side of her neck? Don't worry no conspiracy here on my part, just odd to see similar wounds in the news so close together. Horrifying both of them MOO

From the news reports it was stated the shot was taken from 200 yards away or thereabouts. With a high powered rifle, you don't have to be a pro sniper to take that shot but you have to have competency. Headshots are a snipers wet dream. Lee Harvey Oswald scored a head shot. He wasn't a professional sniper, but he was a competent and trained shooter.The thing is, this was a public figure and this shooter knew this was going to be major news. Thousands of people in the crowd are watching him. The competency isn't just aiming and pulling the trigger by itself, it's doing both with calm and poise considering the magnitude of what the shooter is doing.

This guy could have been prior military, maybe not. Could have been a hunter, or maybe not. Maybe just a shooter for sport. Who knows but that lack of a head shot on a sitting target makes me believe this was not a trained shooter but just a competent enough shooter.

 

[marloweclover]

Back in my student days, we adventured in testing all the doors that weren't locked, the roof accesses at the top of stairwells, the gates to the subbasements. There was an unofficial "caving" club that knew a couple of ways to access the old steam tunnels (strictly forbidden) and would go down there with headlamps, exploring. We had no nefarious intent, we just liked the challenge. Imo, it's not hard on a campus to figure out how to get into places you aren't supposed to be, and how to get back out of them. If you had a bolt cutter, even easier.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

Was it discussed on the thread or known if this was "considered a good shot"? Meaning, was it a hard shot to make from just anyone? Or was above average skill involved?

I had wondered myself, was killer initially aiming for head? I guess that would be most likely for an execution.

Or did they want the neck? I find it eerily coincidental that poor Ukranian girl on the train was stabbed I think on the same side of her neck? Don't worry no conspiracy here on my part, just odd to see similar wounds in the news so close together. Horrifying both of them MOO

This is a shot that someone who has practiced can make but doesn’t have to be a sniper or specialist. 200 yards aiming at center mass (torso) of a subject that is mostly stationary is not that tough. Hunters make this shot all of the time. It hit him in the neck so the compensation for the drop was a little off, but it still got the job done.

Edit: A head shot is risky as it is a smaller target and moves around more. If he was going for the head he was likely a sniper wannabe. A true sniper would have hit the largest body part they can see as they’re often a long ways away. A hunter would have targeted the torso.

The guy moved quickly and was able to disappear (so far) so probably someone who is fit, knows the layout, and can blend in. They had to have been there before to scout things out.

 

[whitelilac]

A short video analysis was just posted.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-09-10-25?t=1757570336872

 

[Ghostwheel]

Was it discussed on the thread or known if this was "considered a good shot"? Meaning, was it a hard shot to make from just anyone? Or was above average skill involved?

I had wondered myself, was killer initially aiming for head? I guess that would be most likely for an execution.

Or did they want the neck? I find it eerily coincidental that poor Ukranian girl on the train was stabbed I think on the same side of her neck? Don't worry no conspiracy here on my part, just odd to see similar wounds in the news so close together. Horrifying both of them MOO

Imo, that depends. Hitting the target from that distance makes it a good shot because Charlie Kirk was a constantly moving individual, but not a sniper quality shot unless the goal was to actually hit Charlie in the neck, as if to silence him. In that case, were that the intention, this was a next level sniper.

But if you ever watched any of his talks, he picked up water at random times, tipped his head forward, leaned forward to pick up a mic or put it down Just before the shot, he raised his hand lowered his head and touched his nose. Constantly moving. I think if it wasn't specifically a neck shot, it was set for the chest and he moved. Makes it so that it could be any kind of good shooter, not necessarily a pro if that was the case. Totally IMO.