Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed Utah 09/10/25

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I think the flavor is mental illness, which imo we all agree these mass shooters and assassins; murderers, are me mentally ill.
I was literally just thinking about this.

There is also such a thing as just plain evil.

Sometimes I feel like making such blanket judgments (I've done it, too) is a disservice to the truly mentally ill.

JMO
 
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So now there is a third person of interest, the first two released. At the same time it's reported in a post above that "he's left the campus", and that authorities are asking for tips.

For a shooter to to be so accurate, from a distance, while Kirk was under that tent, with others around him, while he's moving around on his chair with the microphone, I think this shooter knew what he was doing. No doubt fully disguised while he departed.

It just reminds me of a prominent attorney trying an important case, who was assassinated in my area, home on his driveway in a cul de sac no less, with high powered rifle from a distance. He has never been caught. Ok it was a hit, professional. We don't know if that's the case here.

Still this assassin seems to be have been VERY thorough....or very "lucky".
He may not be caught in the foreseeable future, if he's long gone........hope I am wrong.
 
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The Turning Point USA organization that Charlie founded has asked that social media and news media not post the moment when he was shot, out of respect for his family and loved ones. Other MSM have asked for the same thing. And if they have already posted the video on social media, then they are asked to remove it. I hope that requested is respected. No one needs to see that.
The sad part about this is that those videos were taken by attendees, some in the front row. And they were posted pretty quickly, then shared with lightning speed.
Everyone wants to be "first" when something like this happens. We see it all the time.
It's sad, but it's a fact, that footage like this sells/gets views/gives clout.
IMO.
 
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The Post spoke to the mother of the now-exonerated person of interest, who described him as “super shaken” by the gruesome shooting he witnessed firsthand – and then by his subsequent detention.

“He’s a great kid,” the mother said.

“I have a picture of him. He’s like 25-feet from Charlie on the other side that he was shot. He sent us a video.”

And the man was a Charlie Kirk fan, and had travelled to the Utah Valley Campus Wednesday – only to watch him violently murdered, and then be blamed for it.

“He was attending like any other college kid. He listens to him,” the mother said.

 
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Respectively, the attempted assassination on Trump didn't stop these events and neither will this one, and rightfully so: We all have our right to celebrate our beliefs in the US of A, no matter who tries to silence Americans. We're allowed to whine and moan about anything we want, so help us God.

JMO
I understand what you're saying, but it's not about what we have the right to do.

It's about what major public political figures are going to be willing to do, and where they're going to be willing to do it.

These open-air, large outdoor events clearly cannot be adequately secured.

Indoor environments can be better controlled and monitored for threats.

JMO.
 
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OK call me crazy but I can't see anyone running anywhere. Can someone point it out to me please?
Thank you.
Tricia
It occurs at the beginning of the clip. If you look at the 9 o'clock position, just to the left of the black 'line', there's a black figure in front of the cloud; it moves further to the left. (I ran the clip at half-speed to find it.)
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Whoever killed Charlie Kirk is likely to be a grievance collector or injustice collector. If history has any telling with assassins, mass murderers, and terrorists.
 
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So now there is a third person of interest, the first two released. At the same time it's reported in a post above that "he's left the campus", and that authorities are asking for tips.

For a shooter to to be so accurate, from a distance, while Kirk was under that tent, with others around him, while he's moving around on his chair with the microphone, I think this shooter knew what he was doing. No doubt fully disguised while he departed.

It just reminds me of a prominent attorney trying an important case, who was assassinated in my area, home on his driveway in a cul de sac no less, with high powered rifle from a distance. He has never been caught. Ok it was a hit, professional. We don't know if that's the case here.

Still this assassin seems to be have been VERY thorough....or very "lucky".
He may not be caught in the foreseeable future, if he's long gone........hope I am wrong.
He's an outlier as far as assassins go. It's rare these guys have a well thought out escape plan, if they even try and escape at all. It's rare that these guys operate like assassins in the movies, but at first glance, this guy appears to have done just that.

I'm still convinced that cameras will have captured him though, and this won't go on too long.
 
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Oh. So it's CNN who I'm sure is exactly right in their reporting when their reporter John Miller got it exactly wrong earlier reporting it was a 25yo suspect who committed the dirty deed.
We all did see Patel, FBI director report the shooter was apprehended, the first. From the top even.
 
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I don't know, the "talking heads" made a lot of assumptions about the shooter in the Trump assassination attempt, and they were all wrong, the guy wasn't "military", or had any special sniper training.

I wonder if these people are getting training off of video games.

I'm serious - I feel like a palpable handful of these executions and near-misses have taken place with people being like "um, only an expert could have made those shots", and then there's no expert.
 
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They haven't, but his team wouldn't have been robust enough to have that kind of footprint. Their focus would be on the area around him, as that's where almost all threats are going to come from. They were looking close range as opposed to what this wound up being.

You'd need presidential level security to make that area safe.
Or, placing one or more motion activated cameras on roofs of tall buildings within shooting range (set to show anyone climbing on the roof) that can be viewed on a monitor or phone. It seems someone in security might have thought of that after the shooting in Butler PA. My friend has a battery-operated ring camera that alerts her whenever someone comes near her car or front porch. With all the technology available today, you would think there is device that could solve this problem.
 
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A manhunt is still underway as law enforcement tries to find the person who fired the shot that killed conservative activist Charlie Kirk today.

According to CNN Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst John Miller, the shooter’s planning, skill and execution may be complicating the search.

He told CNN’s Kaitlan Collins that snipers have been studied closely by the government and they typically are people who are “methodical and patient, self-reliant.”

“This is the kind of person who would have planned to get in silently, try to be invisible, take this shot, accomplish the mission, take the gun with them and leave little evidence behind which is why I think they’re having a very difficult time getting started on this.”

 
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The Post spoke to the mother of the now-exonerated person of interest, who described him as “super shaken” by the gruesome shooting he witnessed firsthand – and then by his subsequent detention.

“He’s a great kid,” the mother said.

“I have a picture of him. He’s like 25-feet from Charlie on the other side that he was shot. He sent us a video.”

And the man was a Charlie Kirk fan, and had travelled to the Utah Valley Campus Wednesday – only to watch him violently murdered, and then be blamed for it.

“He was attending like any other college kid. He listens to him,” the mother said.

What a nightmare. Just imagine it - being some rando showing up to be audience member, and then the next thing you know you're being told by some self-assured and/or frantic idiot that you're a likely suspect in an assassination.
 
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I was literally just thinking about this.

There is also such a thing as just plain evil.

Sometimes I feel like making such blanket judgments (I've done it, too) is a disservice to the truly mentally ill.

JMO
Yes, absolutely evil. Which comes first, the evil or the mental illness that drives these murderers?
 
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