Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed Utah 09/10/25

[GatorFL]

As somebody who knows nothing about guns, I've been curious about this. So we think this is a shot that could have been made by a normally competent hunter with the sort of hunting rifle you can buy from your neighbourhood gun shop?

200 yards, looks like about a 5 MOA by my eye if the shooter was aiming for Charlie's head. Yes, a competent hunter could make the shot with a normal rifle. An optic would help. Shooter definitely spent some time at a range, a novice would find this shot tough optic or not. JMO

 

[Tapeartree]

I'm in London, England.

Walking my dog I overheard the following conversation between two schoolboys on their way to school, holding their phones:

- bro, but you just see the blood come pouring out of his neck
- yeah because it's like, hit an artery or something

The normalizing/sharing of the video of this assassination as 'content' is deeply disturbing.

Whatever your political views, this man was a human being and does not deserve to have his murder used for clicks.

Sorry to be an old prude, but I feel everyone should stop watching it. We don't need to watch it. The police have it. All that watching it does is encourage those clickbait seekers to keep sharing, and it's now reaching young eyes who can only be disturbed and upset by it.

Exactly. Earlier in the day (yesterday), I had seen videos of a young woman stabbed and killed on a subway in NC. The videos left me feeling so sad and disturbed that I had to walk away from any news. Later in the afternoon, I saw videos of CK murdered as he talked to university students. All so disturbing that I actually deleted my X account because I feel like I want to cry.

 

[clearskies1]

So I found some pics of the losee center where the shots came from. In one pic, I noticed a ladder and it got me wondering if there are other ladders around the building that the shooter could have accessed to get to the roof.

I also noticed on a map that the losee center is built into an embankment. Notice the two cars parked on the bottom left. I wonder if it's possible the shooter accessed the roof from that vicinity. Maybe used a box truck and climbed to the top to get to the roof?

No inside access/badges needed. He just got up top from the outside.

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This video shows and explains how easy it is to access the Losee Center roof. There is a walkway leading to it from an adjacent building with only a railway separating it. Starting at 1:40. https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/11/poli...ivist-charlie-kirk-murder-unfolded-lah-digvid

 

[Dotta]

Very easily indeed! The initial distance was given as 200 yards but I've also seen 125 yards mentioned. Both of those amount to basically nothing spectacular. Rifles have been capable of hitting a man-sized target at those distances for well over 150 years.

MLK was killed with a regular hunting rifle. I forget the distance, though.

Edit: Stickledown range which is the longest one at Bisley in the UK has firing points out to 1,200 yards. The closest one is 800 yards! 200 yards is easy-peasy. That's the distance we need to zero "high muzzle energy" rifles (greater than 4,500j at the muzzle) on military ranges before shooting them at greater distances.

I'm not sure about
Quoting: "easy peasy".

This shooter seems to me a professional with nerves of steel.
One fatal shot to the neck!
And then...
vanishing into thin air!

The roof was almost white, the shooter seemed to wear black - so easy to spot if the drones were used.
After all,
he had to climb onto the roof, move to his position, prepare the weapon.
Much time to spot him and act accordingly.

Shooting through the window would have been much more complicated
as entering the building could mean passing through security.

Well,
IMO
the attack was meticulously planned and executed.
I'm not sure the shooter will be caught.

But, I hope I'm wrong.

JMO

 

[Amonet]

Indeed. We teach newbies all the time. It's not a big issue to teach someone who's never touched a rifle before to make a shot like that (hitting a person-sized target) in a couple of hours. Certainly in an afternoon at the range.

The media are constantly looking to sensationalise any event or angle they can. There are plenty of people who will happily step up and make these things out to be something amazing that only highly skilled "marksmen" can do but it's actually pretty easy.

CK was also literally a sitting target. I've never shot a real gun but I know that logically it's going to be much easier to shoot something human sized and not moving compared to walking or running.

 

[Elley Mae]

As somebody who knows nothing about guns, I've been curious about this. So we think this is a shot that could have been made by a normally competent hunter with the sort of hunting rifle you can buy from your neighbourhood gun shop?

Not bragging about it but my daughter taught by my hubby hit a target the size of a paper plate 1200 yards out. So yes with the right training its possible.

Jmo

 

[Amonet]

Nothing would surprise me not even an inside job.
Jmo

Most times it's Occam's razor. I think something CK spoke about will be the shooter's reason. I don't see anything here that makes a conspiracy theory likely.

 

[indicolite22]

For what it's worth, I have seen it on YouTube. Maybe I'm desensitised to some things but I didn't find it as "graphic" as some reports have suggested. On the other hand I have never seen, and will not watch, beheadings or other atrocities <modsnip: Removed name calling / variation>

I avoided watching it, but an otherwise reputable news organization put a graphic photo of the key moment in a yt thumbnail. Bad move.

IMO it's too early for conspiracy theories, international involvement, etc. Judging by the method, it looks like Crooks 2.0 so far. I wonder if the perpetrator expected to get away with it in this case. I hope they are caught soon.

 

[Amonet]

I'm not sure about
Quoting: "easy peasy".

This shooter seems to me a professional with nerves of steel.
One fatal shot to the neck!
And then...
vanishing into thin air!

The roof was almost white, the shooter seemed to wear black - so easy to spot if the drones were used.
After all,
he had to climb onto the roof, move to his position, prepare the weapon.
Much time to spot him and act accordingly.

Shooting through the window would have been much more complicated
as entering the building could mean passing through security.

Well,
IMO
the attack was meticulously planned and executed.
I'm not sure the shooter will be caught.

But, I hope I'm wrong.

JMO

I can't see anyone aiming for the neck of a target. Usually the torso or the head are what someone would aim for. The pot where the bullet hit says it's not a professional imho.

 

[crcap]

Cant shake the feeling this was an orchestrated assassination planned by an outside nation in order to sow discord and also to serve as a warning to Trump. Putin or Netanyahu maybe. They will never find the shooter, they were a professional imo.

See I get the feeling it was an orchestrated assassination, but from inside this very nation. It’s a distraction from the Epstein files and the president immediately has blamed the left with no evidence.

 

[Lucy.D]

Not bragging about it but my daughter taught by my hubby hit a target the size of a paper plate 1200 yards out. So yes with the right training its possible.

Jmo

That is one awesome shot, Elley. Your daughter's name isn't Annie Oakley Mae is it?
But pulling the trigger on a target that could quite possibly end up costing you your life would make the barrel shake a bit I reckon, so I think whoever shot Charlie was either very skilled or very lucky to do that with one shot and disappear.

 

[Elley Mae]

Charlie Kirk assassin most likely ‘internet shooter’ who took advantage of low-security spot: elite sharpshooter

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[Tricia]

Thread is locked until further notice. Too many off topic posts to count.

 

[Tricia]

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[Tricia]

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