Charlie Sheen rushed to hospital

  • #41
Charlie enters rehab.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/01/28/charlie-sheen-enters-rehab-center/?test=faces

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“Due to Charlie Sheen's decision to enter a rehabilitation center, CBS, Warner Bros. Television and executive producer Chuck Lorre are placing ‘Two and a Half Men’ on production hiatus. We are profoundly concerned for his health and well-being, and support his decision,” CBS Entertainment, Warner Bros. Television and Executive Producer Chuck Lorre said in a joint statement.

Good! Do it this time Charlie
 
  • #42
If Charlie doesn't do his rehab and work a program this time I'm concerned that this is not going to end well and it is going to end soon.

I saw a vid clip of him that was from the end of last year. He's got that burnt out addict look. It's a look that comes into their eyes and it's usually indicates that the end is coming close. An end to their actively using and pursuing their drug(s) of choice or an end by their death.

Prayers for Charlie.
 
  • #43
I definitely think Charlie needs help and I hope he is serious about getting it. However, I have doubts he is and feel he is there because it was forced somehow.

I wish CBS would have still went on with the show while he was in rehab. Not that I think the other actors on the show are hurting for money but they shouldn't have to put everything on hold for Charlie. Like many others have said, both Charlie IRL and Charlie on two and a half men need rehab. So I don't see why they couldn't write it in and get both Charlies help.
It would allow for personal growth of Charlies character on the show and it would be funny to see where Alan would go with having the Malibu beach house as if it were his own. Plus it would let the IRL Charlie know that it's not all about him, that the world doesn't revolve around Charlie.
 
  • #44
I think Charlie is at this stage in the addiction process. He has 5 kids I hope he gets it together. But I am doubtful...the man is 45 years old. I think the older an alcoholic/addict is the less likely they are to remain sober. Of course JMO.

End-Stage Alcoholism

As the disease advances through the stages of alcoholism, the alcoholic becomes obsessed with drinking to the exclusion of nearly everything else. Hangovers, blackouts, stomach and other health-related problems are regular occurrences.

Physical and mental health continues to degrade as the body’s organs become increasingly damaged and functionally impaired.
If the alcoholic continues drinking and does not seek treatment, the disease will turn fatal. Whether it be from direct damage to the body's organs and systems, accidents and related injuries, or even suicide, death will likely be the final outcome of the end stages of alcoholism.

http://www.endstagealcoholism.net
 
  • #45
I refuse to watch his show. He's a father and a father of girls at that and he is constantly in the company of 🤬🤬🤬🤬 stars and strippers doing drugs. GROSS. There is NOT a good person underneath there, there is a sociopath. Denise wishes there was and doesn't everybody? I don't think he's a Robert Downey - that's insulting to RDJ. Charlie seems to have had a very good Dad - I can't really picture Martin doing drugs with him when he was just a kid. He's lived a spoiled entitled life imo.

I predict he enters rehab a few more times and then dies the scum that he is. Sorry. Shooting directly from the hip on this one.

ETA: sorry for violent rehtoric gun analogy :p
 
  • #46
It seems Charlie is still trying to run the whole show and do things his way:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41359242/ns/today-entertainment/

Recovery for an alcoholic/addict depends on them doing it someone else's way for a change. Thinking they know what's best is what has caused their problems to begin with. AA refers to this selfishness/self centeredness as self will run riot. Also the addict needs the structure of a traditional rehab center for at least 30 days sometimes longer. I can't see this working out with Charlie doing rehab at his house. If he doesn't get sober soon this man will die.
 
  • #47
Rehab at home? You've got to be kidding. He will be dead soon if he does not get intensive help, away from his temptations.
 
  • #48
I refuse to watch his show. He's a father and a father of girls at that and he is constantly in the company of 🤬🤬🤬🤬 stars and strippers doing drugs. GROSS. There is NOT a good person underneath there, there is a sociopath. Denise wishes there was and doesn't everybody? I don't think he's a Robert Downey - that's insulting to RDJ. Charlie seems to have had a very good Dad - I can't really picture Martin doing drugs with him when he was just a kid. He's lived a spoiled entitled life imo.

I predict he enters rehab a few more times and then dies the scum that he is. Sorry. Shooting directly from the hip on this one.

ETA: sorry for violent rehtoric gun analogy :p

He must have really hurt you..
-RDJ was in horrible shape. The memory seems to forget what he was back then. I remember clearly the addict he was. He still is an addict, just functioning and sober today.

There is hope for everyone. Your entitled to hate the man. Many wish he would recover. I do. I have seen others worse than Sheen recover. Maybe they never became the people I wanted them to be, but nevertheless, they no longer are hanging by a thread.


Goz
 
  • #49
He must have really hurt you..
-RDJ was in horrible shape. The memory seems to forget what he was back then. I remember clearly the addict he was. He still is an addict, just functioning and sober today.

There is hope for everyone. Your entitled to hate the man. Many wish he would recover. I do. I have seen others worse than Sheen recover. Maybe they never became the people I wanted them to be, but nevertheless, they no longer are hanging by a thread.


Goz

Hi Goz,

Didn't RDJ end up in some neighbors kids bed? I think that was his rock bottom. I'm proud that he got the help he needed and is such a success (dang I just love the guy).

OTOH, I can't say the same for Charlie. Rehab at home? Really? Like Michael Jackson, who isn't going to say NO to Charlie -- especially when he's handing out 30,000 checks. I hate to be pesimistic, but at home rehab is not rehab. He'll probably have another sober coach and be doing coke while the coach is asleep.

TMZ: According to our sources, Dr. Paul Nassif -- husband of "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" star Adrienne Maloof -- was the one who drove Charlie home from the hospital.

In typical Sheen fashion, we're told Charlie seemed totally fine on the drive home and the two talked about life and the future, along with "fun things" as they laughed during the car ride back to Charlie's house.

And good news ...we're told Charlie's been sober since getting home from the hospital.

Doesn't sound like anyone is watching him. I also wonder if 2.5 men will now not be on hiatus (ie, business as usual).

MOO

Mel
 
  • #50
I don't think rehab at home is a good idea at all. I think that Charlie Sheen is a very talented actor as are all the cast of his show. Probably what the show needs is some new writers with some fresh ideas. I know the last few times I tried watching it, they even have the brother character drinking and sleeping around. Not that the show is the cause of his problems but I don't think it helps at all. I do hope that Charlie turns things around. He has a lot to live for, most especially his children. They need a dad they can look up to. I believe that he can do it and he needs to do it. I wish him and his family the best.
 
  • #51
  • #52
I realize this won't be a popular opinion but I think this rehab at home thing is at least worth a shot. It's evident that going into an actual rehab facility hasn't worked for him as once he is released, he goes right back to his old lifestyle. Perhaps if he has specialists around him in his own environment and learns a sober lifestyle in that manner, it may prove to be fruitful.
 
  • #53
I realize this won't be a popular opinion but I think this rehab at home thing is at least worth a shot. It's evident that going into an actual rehab facility hasn't worked for him as once he is released, he goes right back to his old lifestyle. Perhaps if he has specialists around him in his own environment and learns a sober lifestyle in that manner, it may prove to be fruitful.

I agree davehead. Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys had a Dr. live with him when he tried to get clean. (also he suffered from mental illness) I do not know what the results were.
Rich people like Charlie can have this service afforded to them. If that is what he can do, then all the best to him that it does work. He at least is moving in some direction to help himself.

Goz
 
  • #54
I agree davehead. Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys had a Dr. live with him when he tried to get clean. (also he suffered from mental illness) I do not know what the results were.
Rich people like Charlie can have this service afforded to them. If that is what he can do, then all the best to him that it does work. He at least is moving in some direction to help himself.

Goz

I did not know that about Brian Wilson-- interesting!!

Exactly!! If you have the means to do it, I say why not? I think that it's easy to be sober when you're in the confines of a facility where you're not dealing with day-to-day life and don't have the ability to drink or do drugs. But once you're back in the real world, dealing with everyday life, it's way too easy to go back to drinking and drugging because you've not been rehabilitated in that environment.
 
  • #55
I'm not sure the environment has a lot to do with an addict using. JMHO.

An addict is an addict is an addict. They will rationalize, justify and basically find a way to use ---if they want to---no matter where they are or who they are with. Not trying to be sarcastic (I am never sarcastic on the internet, it never plays out for me) an addict will snort a line of coke during high mass if the opportunity presents itself and they want to use. JMHO.

I don't care one way or another though as to where he does his program. I haven't seen that being at a treatment facility itself has helped him prior to this so maybe this will be the one that works.

As an aside about RDJ and other charming addicts. They can be very charming, but those that have to close the door and live with them behind that closed door usually have a very different opinion. I don't know if RDJ is as charming and "wonderful" as his public persona .


IMHO, Charlie is a cash cow for a lot of people. A lot of people are making their living off him and the show. If he were unemployed, broke down and living in a rent by the hour hotel we probably wouldn't hear about him at all, even with him being Martin's Son. JMHO.

That does not make him a victim. Whatsoever. This man is no victim other than being a victim to his own addictions and although we don't know him on a personal level, I would venture to say he's not the type of person I would want to know on a personal level.

I've had my fill of mean drunks, dry drunks and just plain ol' mean spiritually challanged addicts. Blah.

Good luck to him because he has that hard look around his eyes. When he smiles--it doesn't make it to his eyes--ever in pics I've seen of him. He can't even fake it anymore IMHO.
 
  • #56
Yeah well the situation with Brian Wilson wasn't exactly successful:

Some years later, during his second marriage, Wilson was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder, bipolar type which supposedly caused him to hear voices in his head. By 1989 the rumor was that Brian either had a stroke or had abused too many drugs and was permanently "fried".[7] One biographer reported that the actual problem was that Wilson, who had been prescribed antipsychotic medicine by Landy since 1983, had developed tardive dyskinesia,[37] a neurological condition marked by involuntary, repetitive movements, that develops in about 20% of patients treated with antipsychotic drugs for a long period of time.[38]

Dr. Landy provided a Svengali-like environment for Wilson, controlling his every movement in his life, including his musical direction. Landy's misconduct would eventually lead to the loss of his psychologist license, [35] as well as a court-ordered removal and restraining order from Wilson.[36]

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Wilson[/ame]
 
  • #57
I agree davehead. Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys had a Dr. live with him when he tried to get clean. (also he suffered from mental illness) I do not know what the results were.
Rich people like Charlie can have this service afforded to them. If that is what he can do, then all the best to him that it does work. He at least is moving in some direction to help himself.

Goz

Note Post says he also suffered from Mental Illness. I do not know what the results were but I did look them up and send them to Dave.

Goz
 
  • #58
I have to disagree about Charlie Sheen doing rehab at home. It ain't gonna work. The addicted person needs to show some humility in order to achieve sobriety. Addicts need to have a very strong support system especially in the beginning. They need to be in a rehab setting to have that support from professionals as well as other addicts who are suffering the same as they are. I speak from experience as there has been a lot of alcoholism in my family. My sister died as a direct result of her alcoholism after 20 years of dealing with this horrible disease, she wouldn't do rehab either. In contrast I know people that have been successful in their recovery who have gone to rehab. As always this is JMO.
 
  • #59
My brother has been recovered for 10 years from H addicition, and pain pills. He failed rehabs and never has gone to NA, AA, or any A.
He is still a (fill in the blank) and we no longer talk, yet I did pull him through the worst parts of addiction, but he got clean on his own. I feel anybody who can manage to stay clean, in anyway, anyhow, should just try to achieve this goal. If they chose support, fine.

I do not think they all come out to be good people, but that is not the goal. The goal is to get clean. I have another relative who uses support systems and can't make a sentence without slipping in jargon in every line. I do not find him to be a functioning person except he is clean.

I agree, anyone, esp. Charlie, would do better in a rehab, but I am not him. He can only make those decisions. If he is able to afford this care at home, God Bless him. I'm sure he has much support as others have mentioned. After all, he is Charlie Sheen, and is of course the center of attention, again.

Goz
 
  • #60
I used to looooove "Two and a Half Men" - back in the beginning when it was a bit more subtle. Now, it kinda makes me gag.

Let's face it, Charlie Sheen is not delivering a stellar performance in the series. He's pretty much playing himself. I don't exactly consider his transitions from a weekend party with 🤬🤬🤬🤬 stars to the set of that show an exercise in method acting. As far as I'm concerned, he could and should be replaced by someone who can PLAY Charlie on the show without actually living the character in real life.

IMO, Charlie Sheen is a little old to be behaving as he does. He has children and, yes, there are a great many people counting on his contributions to make their living. I don't find them at fault. He, and he alone, is jeopardizing their livelihoods. I feel for them and I can see some serious animosity down the road.

No one is irreplaceable in TV land. Maybe Charlie needs to learn that the hard way???
 

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