Chloroform in the trunk of caseys car

[not_my_kids]

I could have sworn they said the computer was seized on July 16th. So yes, the searches could have been done after Caylee was last seen by the family, but if you're implying the searches were done after that, how would they know to do searches on chloroform if they didn't already know it was in the car?

As to why, I don't know, I was just pointing out that if they were done afterward, then it doesn't show premeditation.
I really do think that this shows that she had help. I can't see Casey getting hold of chloroform on her own.

 

[addyM3]

well one connection might be that she wasn't thinking her computer would be searched. Thus she could have used it to kill her and she could say it had been used to clean the trunk??? I dont' think she's DAT smart though.. more likely it is the CSI episode or another movie

CMA statement to LE, she offered her laptop and cell phone records to be searched.

 

[dellemma]

Maybe this has been brought up...but given Casey likes of movies and books....

The Vanishing’ (U.S.) (R)
The Vanishing’ (U.S.) (R) By Desson ... he sets a stopwatch, pours chloroform into a handkerchief and places it over his face. Now meet Sutherland and girlfriend Sandra Bullock ...

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/movies/videos/thevanishingusrhowe_a0af68.htm · Cached page

That movie popped into my mind as well. Also one of the recent "Saw" movies, the bad guy uses Chloroform to subdue and the victims have to solve this elaborate mental puzzle.

 

[PattyCake]

scary thought here. being on WS, I go back to google to research and check things out. I hope no one in my immediate family ever gets into trouble. Boy they search my computer and the things they'll find - geesh. it has nothing to do with illegal things but all to do with interest in various cases & trying to learn more.

 

[tehcloser]

That movie popped into my mind as well. Also one of the recent "Saw" movies, the bad guy uses Chloroform to subdue and the victims have to solve this elaborate mental puzzle.

That's even better...newer.

 

[GetSmart]

What if she was planning on doing her folks in ??

 

[Chanler]

Casey Anthony is a disorganized, illiogical person, but chloroform seems an improbable choice to sedate a cranky child. Most irresponsible parents would use portions of adult medications.

As others have noted, the dates and specific content of the searches would be crucial for prosecution.

Chloroform might be used as a "humane" way to rid yourself of a loved child who stands in the way of the life you want to lead.

Anyway seen, it's heartbreaking.

 

[addyM3]

I have thought this before but never posted it,.. what if they were using the sawgrass apartment as a drug lab? I have heard that people break in to unoccupied apartments all the time for partying and making drugs. Could this be feasible?

I think that's getting closer!!

 

[LookingForThe Truth]

Link To Buy Chloroform!!! Easily found doing a Yahoo search..

CA did NOT purchase this chemical to sedate Caylee. JMO!

 

[txsvicki]

Chloroform would fit perfectly with a kidnap scenario. Casey could say she was knocked out with it or something. Also, to a murderer, it might be a good way to disable someone so that they don't struggle, scratch, etc. while being smothered. There's no way I buy an accident, using it to make Caylee sleep in the trunk, or that anyone else used the chloroform,

 

[not_my_kids]

http://www.destructve.com/bromicacid/favechem.htm#2

Sorry if this link has already been posted. It says at here that chloroform will decompose if exposed to air and even faster is exposed to sun.
Which says to me that the chloroform would have had to have been in either the trunk or the glove box. Those are the only two places in the car that I can think of that would have gotten almost no sun and don't have a lot of air movement.

 

[Sassynic]

Dangit. I hate to type this, but it may be hard to prove it was Casey that performed the search online. It doesn't matter whose laptop it was. She can claim so and so was on her computer and/or she had it in her trunk at one time only for kinky sex reasons. In other words, this isn't going to be the "smoking gun" IMO.

Not the smoking gun, but yet enother piece of evidence that the prosecution can stack up against Casey. They will say, what is the likelyhood that one of Casey's friends used her laptop to research chloroform then used her car to store it in without her consent or knowledge?

 

[nursebeeme]

They haven't said this was part of their air sample tests have they? Also, wouldn't urine also be present in their samples of the trunk (carpet)?

one msm source said the chloroform was preliminary fbi results. I would think the body farm would have picked up on the chloroform in their air samples as well. The reason I mentioned urine is because when chlorine comes into contact with skin or urine it can produce chloroform and Cindy was running on and on about putting Caylee's urine soaked diapers in the trunk of that same car "all the time" (like she already knew this was coming and was prepared for it).

However, in keeping with what was found on the computer I find that just a bunch of hot air and explaining away (again) on Cynthia's part.

The other explaination for chloroform being present in the trunk....and "cleaning fluids" per George...would be that the POI tried to clean out some parts of her trunk with a cleaner containing bleach....which when combined with skin or other body fluids...could produce chloroform.

just some thoughts....

 

[Chilly Willy]

From what I'm reading, Chloroform only works for as long as it is continually administered, I'll post a link as soon as I can find an article that spells this out clearly. If Casey looked up how to use chloroform online she would be aware of this and would not use it to put Caylee to sleep for any length of time.

People who claim to be knocked out with chloroform only to come to after a crime has been committed are immediately known to be lying because that's not how chloroform works.

 

[Brini]

NO!!!! Da^^n... where would a person even buy that? Or could a nurse get ahold of it?

I just looks it up on the Net. You can make it, yourself.

 

[Bluebel]

As to why, I don't know, I was just pointing out that if they were done afterward, then it doesn't show premeditation.

Oh, I see what you're saying, ok. Good point, if that's the case.

Chloroform would fit perfectly with a kidnap scenario.

Yeah, I agree - it's the #1 cinematic cliche for kidnapping.

From what I'm reading, Chloroform only works for as long as it is continually administered...

This is why I'm wildly speculating about the gas cans. Gas can full of bleach/ethanol open and fuming in the trunk? Who knows.

 

[Chanler]

In addition to the possibility that chloroform was used to sedate Kaylee, there is also the very real chance that it served the illegal, but unrelated purpose that others have mentioned: a chemical used in the creation of meth amphetamine. It's possible that Casey's thefts might have been related to setting up such a mini-factory.

And, long before this, it occurred to me that Casey's behavior is not unlike that of meth addicts I have seen in the East Village.

 

[MarleeCat]

http://www.destructve.com/bromicacid/favechem.htm#2

Sorry if this link has already been posted. It says at here that chloroform will decompose if exposed to air and even faster is exposed to sun.
Which says to me that the chloroform would have had to have been in either the trunk or the glove box. Those are the only two places in the car that I can think of that would have gotten almost no sun and don't have a lot of air movement.

It decomposes, but it's not like..... leave for 5 min and come back and say "ZOMG! Where'd all my chloroform go???" Probably would be more appropriate to say it degrades when exposed to sun and air. Most commercial chloroform is "stabilized", meaning other chemicals are added to help it not decompose. So, chloroform exposed to the sun for a while won't become something else entirely. But it may only be like 97% chloroform when you were expecting 100%. It's relatively non-reactive. Most solvents are non-reactive.

 

[LookingForThe Truth]

I just looks it up on the Net. You can make it, yourself.

You can buy a 8oz bottle for $99.24 on the web!!

 

[Brini]

Where the hell would chloroform come from???

Can it be a byproduct of decomposition?


Is that the type of substance that might be found in someone's medicine cabinet for any 'innocent' reason? I'm thinking maybe Cindy brought it home for something & Casey figured it was a great way to get Caylee to sleep faster so she could party?

It's not a product of decomposiion. It used to be used as an anesthetic-- to put people to sleep.