Chloroform in the trunk of caseys car

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I am totally with you on this one..that was the first thing I thought too. How would George know about cleaning fluid..which I took to be dry cleaning solvent, if the smell of decomp was so strog? Means he didn't smell it..he found the containers to make it..nail polich remover and chlorine shocker for the pool, in the trunk.

This might shed some light on another thing. In an early article, George said the car smelled so bad that he drove it home from the impound yard with all the windows down and he felt NAUSEA.

I wonder if the nausea was caused by the odor, or if George was having a reaction to chloroform?
 
I am also thinking meth lab. Maybe Casey left Caylee with someone for whatever reason and they took Caylee to a cooking house or she was already at one and someone else was supposed to watch her. Didn't a couple of Casey friends say in their statements that Caylee was very independent and somewhat a flirt with guys very friendly? Caylee ends up getting to close to the stuff, eats it, spills it on her, breaths the fumes in which can be deadly in them selves and dies. I would imagine that one would not be in the position to call 911 from a cook house. Could be the reason she ends up in the trunk of the car and they are getting test results back that show that chemical. Might also be the reason for the look-ups on the computer. She was doing some studing on making the stuff. Just another go round in circles in my head trying to make some sense out of this.

It could also be why they keep talking about these dangerous people who they can't talk about!!!
 
That list is just that a list. You don't need all of that I just don't know what ones off the list combined together work. I know my hubby watches the amounts of Muriatic/Hydrochloric Acid that is purchaesed at one time to customers that walk in off the street as well as the regulars. It is used all the time with concrete work. It is set up as a flag in the system. You try to buy over a certain amount all at once and they want to know what you planning on using it for.
 
Hello to everyone, newbie here. I've been doing a little research and here is something I found interesting that I copied and pasted below. Keep in mind a couple of items reported found in the trunk of Casey's car: 2 gas cans (gas contains ethonal) and a cleaning agent, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read here on the forum that it was reported to be Arm & Hammer detergent? (Arm & Hammer detergent contains oxygenating bleaching powder).

INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING PROCESS: chloroform

Chloroform (trichloromethane) is made industrially by the chlorination of methane or by the following methods:

By the action of bleaching powder (calcium hypochlorite) on ethanol (or acetone) in aqueous solution. The hypochlorite first converts the ethanol into acetaldehyde, and then into trichloroacetaldehyde (chloral). This is then split by hydroxide ions into chloroform and formate ions.
This may be represented by the following sequence of reactions:

Ethanol ---+ Cl2---> Acetaldehyde -----+Cl 2---> Chloral -- +OH-----à Chloroform Formate ion

-2 HCl -3HCl


We know that poor little Caylee's decaying body was placed into the trunk of Casey's car according to the evidence reported thus far. Is it possible that gas spilled from the gas cans, soaked into the carpet, then later cleaned with the detergent which contains a bleaching powder, and water which would be the (aqueous solution), cause the chloroform found in the car? Perhaps she found out through her research on her computer that this is how it could be done to cause conversion to chloroform. I'm thinking she may have thought that chloroform would taint any evidence or even rid of any evidence such as decomposition fluids. When she found she could not rid of the smell, she decided to dump/abandon her car also. Just a thought.
 
Casey honestly doesn't look like a meth head but then again it might not be for her. I can't wait to hear what the person was searching for. I mean were they trying to buy it or trying to find the perfect murder weapon?
 
This might shed some light on another thing. In an early article, George said the car smelled so bad that he drove it home from the impound yard with all the windows down and he felt NAUSEA.

I wonder if the nausea was caused by the odor, or if George was having a reaction to chloroform?

Great consideration.

Thinking about this...
 
Ugh I hate that this leak was so vague. It would be so helpful to know the date of the searches on the computer and especially the key words because they make all the difference. They said "chloroform and it's uses" but is that like " what is chloroform for?" or "chloroform effects" or "chloroform poisoning" Makes me want to pull my hair out not knowing..i need to time out on thinking about this but it follows me to the couch and subsequently into bed. I always have considered this case a murder(yes i'm in the lynch mob) to be honest and have felt and have convinced myself I was at peace with that and wanted to bring justice for Caylee. However, I tell you today when I heard a possible murder weapon my heart sank and I was almost to the point of hyperventalating. It's one thing to think a mother capable of hurting her child, but it is an entirely different thing to imagine her doing it. I think I was better able to distance myself (despite being a 23 year old mother of two toddlers myself) when it was in the hypothetical, but now this is getting down to evidence and it's no longer a mystery novel. This was a living, breathing, loving, innocent little soul; who despite what any speculation may point to, was infatuated with her mommy. I know this for a fact, I've seen it in the eyes of a little boy on an episode of intervention, in which a young meth mother was ditching her toddler with her parents and dissapearing for days, and I've seen it in my own little boys despite the fact that we've lived with my mother most of their lives. NOBODY COMPARES TO MOMMY! Cindy may have been a surrogate in basic needs, but there is no way that little girl wasn't aching for Casey every hour they spent apart. Heck I'm a stay at home mom right now and mine still wake up every night religiously to crawl into my bed. Children are an insatiable pit of mommy love and it's soooo hard for me to imagine that instead of Casey appreciating this wonderful gift she was given that she could have resented it. I am to the point financially where I have to forego meals to make sure they have 3 square meals on the table, they drive me nuts screaming,fighting and harassing the pets, and to be honest yeah sometimes I feel helpless and want to quit. But despite the stress i'm under constantly, it's nothing compared to the constant hugs and kisses, the satisfaction I get out of seeing how much knowledge they are absorbing, hearing my two year old say he's "too little" to do something just because he wants mommy time, and best of all my three year old walking into the room on one of the rare occasions I actually bother to put on make up and saying "mommy! you're so beautiful". Sorry to get all personal on this one guys, bear with me, I just had to get this out because it is getting too personal for me. Children are better than money, better than drugs, and better than sex. They don't ask to be born, we chose that for them (planned parenthood is everywhere now concieving doesn't have to equal birth or adoption). Although I'm very religious, I never pray but tonight I will pray with all my might that it is proven in court that Caylee's death was an accident and not a homicide. Not for Casey sake but for the sake of the soul of that little girl looking down on all this. I truly hope against all odds, and despite whatever messed up things that Casey had in her head, that she loved Caylee with all her heart and would never intentionally do something to harm her.
 
Is it possible to do hair strand drug testing on the hairs that were found in the trunk of the car? Does anyone know if chloroform would show up in hair?
 
Another thing, I would not be surprised if Casey purposefully put the chloroform in the trunk of her car, to back up her story of kidnappers. She doesn't seem very bright, and probably got most of her information about the chemical from the movies.

She doesn't strike me as the type of person who is intelligent enough to know the meaning of scientific words, definitions etc. Therefore, did some research, found out how to make it, stole gas cans to make a batch up and leave that evidence in her car.

Like I said, that is just my opinion on Casey's thinking. Also, I believe Casey was on some kind of drug(s) during that last month of partying at least. Her face looks incredibly thin throughout those pics, and she seems to have gained weight in the face since she was arrested the first time. If I found out she was huffing it herself I would not be shocked.
 
Bleach and acetone.......two common items found in most households.

Bleach, of course, is used in laundry cleaning.

Acetone........is, simply, nail-polish remover.
I think most nail polish removers stay away from acetone nowadays BUT you are correct it is common and is paint remover/thinner...
 
Well, "how to use it" could mean to make drugs or to knock a person out. Either way, Ms. KC has a new problem.
 
I just noticed on amazon that a company has a bottle for sale for $99.24 WTH??? I wasn't sure if I could link but here is the info......

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I could have sworn on NG it was illegal. That is just plain nuts that you can purchase it straight off the internet~!~ Am I going crazy and looking at this totally wrong????
 
Bleach and acetone.......two common items found in most households.

Bleach, of course, is used in laundry cleaning.

Acetone........is, simply, nail-polish remover.

It said clearly NOT nailpolish remover.
 
You are not wrong, it is illegal, but you can still purchase ANYthing on the internet, especially whatever illegal thing you are looking for. Unfortunately.

IMO this is all very simple. Theres no complicated inside story or twisting details to this. I believe Casey watched way too many crime shows/movies, got the idea on how to get rid of her precious daughter, got ahold of the Cloroform to murder her child and thats what happened. Simple as that. That is ofcourse my theory, doesnt mean its true.
 
Im going to post this again...sepcifically read post #6 - how eerily comparable....and this was in 2003.

maybe she was trying to mock this, just knock caylee out, but it ended up killing her.

Interesting! thanks
 
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