Cincinnati Zoo kills gorilla after child gets into his cage, May 28, 2016

[Mrs G Norris]

Are we sure the mother wants to sue and had children removed from her care in the past, because I can only find those claims as repeated rumors online ...

 

[LinasK]

It's certainly all over the place; but I haven't yet seen it mentioned in MSM. I think if it is, you can post the article, can't you?

In this article is her FB posts where she outs herself. It's further down in the article, after the witness. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...witnesses-say-animal-acting-protectively.html

 

[1&2&3]

Runs a daycare??!! Were the children with her all hers or was she keeping some? Imagine if that was your daycare keeper and it was your child that she mishandled at the zoo? Oh brother!

This lady may be in for a lot more trouble than she ever dreamed of. How in this world is she running a daycare if CPS has taken her children away before? Illegally?

If all this is true, I hope the law sits on her hard for her failures to follow the laws and she does not get a slap on her wrists! It is people like this that do what they want irregardless to laws and will have no afterthoughts of what their actions have caused.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

There is a Facebook page- when you type in Investigate it fills in her real name i.e. Investigate (her real name). Not sure if I'm allowed to state it here or not, but she has publicly outed herself and it's in news stories now. Her initials are MG. It's got another change.org petition to have CPS investigate her. Supposedlly she wants to sue the zoo now- the nerve of her!!!

This infuriates me to no end but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. FGS

 

[Hoosgirl]

The boy crawled under a railing and through wires and bushes to make it into Gorilla World before falling 15 feet into a moat surrounding the yard.

A 15-foot moat separates visitors from the animals, the zoo said. The moat wall is built so gorillas cannot climb it.

An electric fence runs around the back of the exhibit.

The zoo said workers check the gorilla exhibit every day to make sure debris hasn't fallen across the moat — giving gorillas a way out.

http://m.wlwt.com/news/Saturday-was...o-s-Gorilla-World-since-1978-opening/39787050

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[eileenhawkeye]

I am beginning to see how the Salem Witch Trials occured. Public hysteria is alive and well in America. Please stop believing everything you read. There is zero proof that the mother was on facebook on her cell phone when this happened. The mother has not sued the zoo, so take a deep breath over that happening. If she does, it will take at least a year to file a lawsuit, and you will have zero interest in this story at that point. There is zero proof the mother had her children taken away for neglect. I am pretty sure you need a license to run a daycare, and she would not get one if she had neglect charges. Come on. Anyway, there will be a new villan in a week in America. Remember that dentist who killed Cecil the Lion? So my advice to the mother is...They will all move on in a few days. This is just temporary entertainment for people.

I'm calling it: The next "thing you just know is true" is that she tried to murder her son intentionally and dropped him in the gorilla exhibit.

 

[skinnycat]

I am so outraged, this should never have happened.

That woman had no control over her son, she had no business having him out where he can endanger either himself or others. If she isn't willing to put the proper safety measures in place for her child and others then maybe the state needs to have control over the child. If she can't control her child she is a danger to him, the first time that he made the indication that he wanted to be closer, she should have taken him by the hand and lead him away from the gorilla enclosure.

After watching the video numerous times I don't think the gorilla was trying to hurt the child, of course it looked like the gorilla was throwing the child around but he was only taking care of the child like he would a baby gorilla, he came to the child when he heard the child fall in the mote, the gorilla wasn't in the mote before the child.

 

[LinasK]

I am beginning to see how the Salem Witch Trials occured. Public hysteria is alive and well in America. Please stop believing everything you read. There is zero proof that the mother was on facebook on her cell phone when this happened. The mother has not sued the zoo, so take a deep breath over that happening. If she does, it will take at least a year to file a lawsuit, and you will have zero interest in this story at that point. There is zero proof the mother had her children taken away for neglect. I am pretty sure you need a license to run a daycare, and she would not get one if she had neglect charges. Come on. Anyway, there will be a new villan in a week in America. Remember that dentist who killed Cecil the Lion? So my advice to the mother is...They will all move on in a few days. This is just temporary entertainment for people.

I'm calling it: The next "thing you just know is true" is that she tried to murder her son intentionally and dropped him in the gorilla exhibit.

She could have run a daycare out of her home without getting the proper licensing. It's done all the time. If the children were taken away, there will be a record of it that can be checked. Why makeup that lie if it can be easily proven? No, it's not "temporary entertainment" for me. Serial killers start by animal abuse- I actually care about animals- that's why it makes me so mad when endangered species are killed because of stupid human behavior- and Cecil is included in that, he's another needless death. His death caused me to renew my memberships in the World Wildlife Fund and other animal causes I've supported in the past. I also have volunteered at my local animal shelter. This mother acted like a witch- she deserves everything that's heaped upon her, IMO! GRRRR!!
And I won't move on in a few days, and I'll be back here in a year when she files suit- I guarantee it- for Harumba!

 

[Hoosgirl]

I found this tour on YouTube, shows how close the moat is but how thick the bushes are to get to it.

https://youtu.be/hzLltXrqLcE

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[JeannaT]

I am beginning to see how the Salem Witch Trials occured. Public hysteria is alive and well in America. Please stop believing everything you read. There is zero proof that the mother was on facebook on her cell phone when this happened. The mother has not sued the zoo, so take a deep breath over that happening. If she does, it will take at least a year to file a lawsuit, and you will have zero interest in this story at that point. There is zero proof the mother had her children taken away for neglect. I am pretty sure you need a license to run a daycare, and she would not get one if she had neglect charges. Come on. Anyway, there will be a new villan in a week in America. Remember that dentist who killed Cecil the Lion? So my advice to the mother is...They will all move on in a few days. This is just temporary entertainment for people.

I'm calling it: The next "thing you just know is true" is that she tried to murder her son intentionally and dropped him in the gorilla exhibit.

Eileen, I agree with you about a witch hunt, and many of the rumors are likely untrue. But I am so very sad about this dear irreplacable gorilla, and I'm incensed by the mother's first attempt at communications before that role was taken over by a PR firm for her. This whole thank God my baby was watched over and is okay makes me just want to cry.

I want to hear her say "i'm distraught. What have I done? How did I hear he wanted to jump into the moat and then go on with my business, and now this gorilla is dead, and my child could have been killed as well". That's what I want to see. I don't want to see family guffawing about the fact that he still hasn't learned his lesson and wants to go back, and her not expressing remorse for the great deal of pain her lack of supervision has caused.

Because at this point, I would be dissolved into a heap of tears and self-recrimination about this. That she isn't, just makes me pissed off even more.

 

[krkrjx]

Can someone point me to a report that gives more info about what happened? I will say that while there are many neglectful parents I once had an expericence with my nephew at the National Zoo (DC) where he almost got over a fence with the Flamingo's.

It was reported by someone there at the time who heard a verbal exchange between the mother and the little boy that he said he was going in, she said, "No, you're not." He said again, "I'm going in" and again she said, "No, you are not!" Then she looked away from the boy to tend to other children and that's when he went in.

So...I hold the mother responsible. She should have been extra vigilant at that time given the boy's indication he wanted to "go in" to the gorilla enclosure. Her later statement about how people don't always understand that someone might look away from their child momentarily does not fly with me. She should have watched him extra closely until they had moved well away from that enclosure, at the very least.

 

[jjenny]

It's certainly all over the place; but I haven't yet seen it mentioned in MSM. I think if it is, you can post the article, can't you?

Here. This article names her.
http://www.people.com/article/cincinnati-zoo-defends-itself-after-killing-gorilla

 

[monster12]

I know the workers had plenty of other things to be worried about but why didn't anyone have the people above screaming and yelling moved away? There had to have been a worker nearby that was not a part of the response team that could've moved bystanders and that could have possibly calmed the gorilla for those that say he was agitated and trying to protect the child. But I know they made whatever decision they had to quickly and couldn't possibly try every thing but I would think moving people would have helped something just like at the scene of an accident.
Also, I'm sure the kid was "out of it" from the fall, even though it didn't really seem that way, but a few times when the gorilla stopped pulling him or touching him, the kid just sat there. Again I'm sure he had no clue where he was or what we going on but there was a 400 pound gorilla next to him....

And lastly, and this doesn't really matter, but what if when he was shot he fell onto the kid or the kid suddenly moved causing his positioning to change? Thankfully for the kid that didn't happen. I'm not aware of where the kid was when the animal was shot but just a thought I had. Sadly it doesn't matter now but have been meaning to post.

Let's hope there aren't any "repeat " incidents in the immediate future as sometimes happens with cases like this especially when it's blown up through the media.


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[BayouBelle_LA]

That has got to be the single worst public petition I have ever seen.

1. The petition is totally pointless, and has no legal bearing. Even if public officials were sympathetic to the petition, they would be left scratching their heads, trying to find a law that these people could be charged with breaking.

2. It’s morally wrong to blame the victim or the victim’s family for an unfortunate incident like this.

3. It’s counterproductive. The only thing the petition could possibly accomplish is to deflect blame away from the zoo, and empower them not to make the changes that will prevent this from happening again.

rbbm

I think some of us may differ on who the victim is in this incident.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I am beginning to see how the Salem Witch Trials occured. Public hysteria is alive and well in America. Please stop believing everything you read. There is zero proof that the mother was on facebook on her cell phone when this happened. The mother has not sued the zoo, so take a deep breath over that happening. If she does, it will take at least a year to file a lawsuit, and you will have zero interest in this story at that point. There is zero proof the mother had her children taken away for neglect. I am pretty sure you need a license to run a daycare, and she would not get one if she had neglect charges. Come on. Anyway, there will be a new villan in a week in America. Remember that dentist who killed Cecil the Lion? So my advice to the mother is...They will all move on in a few days. This is just temporary entertainment for people.

I'm calling it: The next "thing you just know is true" is that she tried to murder her son intentionally and dropped him in the gorilla exhibit.

Yes, it is like that and I agree with you, none of the rumors have been substantiated, these things can lead to mass hysteria for a few days, then die down quickly until something else outrageous happens. It seems to me that women, and mothers in particular come in for especially harsh treatment in public scandals. Not sure why that is.

I think people should be careful about repeating rumors they've seen no proof for.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Daily Mail has a picture of the parents and the mother is not the woman who's face has been circulating online who is working for the child care center.

I do hear the sound of knives sharpening to go after the father however.

http://dailym.ai/1VreQ0m

 

[Montjoy]

1. Putting up signs doesn’t change the laws.
2. I have seen no reports that the mom allowed the child to enter the enclosure.
3. The exhibit will stay closed until it can be modified. The enclosure is obviously totally inadequate. If you look at the video I posted above, you can see that the railing is less then waste high even on very small children. I have visited a few zoos, and have never seen a railing that low. A tall person could almost trip over it and fall into the moat.

4. I believe that many 4 year olds cannot read, and even those who can may not know about paying attention to signs the way that we, as adults do.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Wrong MG harassed online: http://globalnews.ca/news/2729843/n...e-over-child-who-fell-into-gorilla-enclosure/

 

[Montjoy]

I was on a leash when I was little, over here they call them "baby reins" to make it sound less like animal equipment [emoji5]️

Eh? No offense, but when I hear 'reins' I immediately think of animal equipment.

 

[KaaBoom]

I found this tour on YouTube, shows how close the moat is but how thick the bushes are to get to it.

https://youtu.be/hzLltXrqLcE

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