Cincinnati Zoo kills gorilla after child gets into his cage, May 28, 2016

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Is it just your opinion that the regulations are vague and any zoo can pass them? Maybe you have something concrete that can back that statement.

http://webcenters.netscape.compuserve.com/news/story/0002/20160601/L1N18S1FA_1018761409

"U.S. rules spell out that contact between humans and dangerous animals must be avoided but are vague on how to achieve that, industry officials and experts said. The federal Animal Welfare Act says zoos must have a barrier that restricts physical contact between the public and nonhuman primates, but it does not specify height or material.

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[BayouBelle_LA]

Doubtful since he has no respect for being told "no" ,and fences, and no clue about dangerous animals, and does what he desires. You can hope though...

Well why not hope? Shouldn't we hope the best for everyone? I don't think we should write this kid off, he's only three.

 

[KaaBoom]

Is it just your opinion that the regulations are vague and any zoo can pass them? Maybe you have something concrete that can back that statement.

Yes, it's my opinion based on stories like this of gorillas jammed into small pits, with nothing but a few bushes as barriers to keep small children from falling into the pit with the gorillas, and government regulators who see nothing wrong with it.

 

[drjones]

That also didn't involve a dangerous animal, and being told "no" don't do something. Apples and oranges.

and everyone knows that any 3 or 4 year old that ever disobeys a parent is a prime example of a person that is likely to go on to be a hulking football player with no respect for the law or women and surely has it in him to be a mass killer. that is just common sense...

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

That also didn't involve a dangerous animal, and being told "no" don't do something. Apples and oranges.

No, but it involved a young child getting through a barrier he shouldn't have been able to get through.

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[Mrs G Norris]

and everyone knows that any 3 or 4 year old that ever disobeys a parent is a prime example of a person that is likely to go on to be a hulking football player with no respect for the law or women and surely has it in him to be a mass killer. that is just common sense...

HAHA!! OK it's official, this thread has run completely off the rails

I suggest we pull back from labelling toddlers potential future psychopathic murderers .. I mean let's give the kid a break, maybe he'll just turn into a party gate crasher, or online troll?

This could even prove to be a turning point and he'll end up playing trombone in his high school band?

Sorry, I know it wasn't you

 

[DexterMorgan]

We need to ban a parent bringing 4 kids to zoos. Lol. That would help. This kid could have jumped off a subway platform to get a closer look at the train approaching the station.

Who do we sue then?

 

[KaaBoom]

http://webcenters.netscape.compuserve.com/news/story/0002/20160601/L1N18S1FA_1018761409

"U.S. rules spell out that contact between humans and dangerous animals must be avoided but are vague on how to achieve that, industry officials and experts said. The federal Animal Welfare Act says zoos must have a barrier that restricts physical contact between the public and nonhuman primates, but it does not specify height or material.

I guess the USDA considers bushes to be an adequate barrier between humans and dangerous animals.

 

[jjenny]

Yep, I can. I'm not counting out a four-year old's potential....his feistiness and defiance just might lead him to good places.

This does not mean that I think it's okay what happened. I'm horrified by the events, every way I look at it. But I'm not condemning a preschooler. You can though.

I hope it doesn't lead him into any more zoo enclosures. Because other animals just might be not so nice as the gorilla was. If this was chimpanzee instead of the gorilla in those 10 minutes the kid could have been mutilated beyond recognition. Chimpanzees go for the face, hands and private parts.

 

[sonjay]

http://webcenters.netscape.compuserve.com/news/story/0002/20160601/L1N18S1FA_1018761409

"U.S. rules spell out that contact between humans and dangerous animals must be avoided but are vague on how to achieve that, industry officials and experts said. The federal Animal Welfare Act says zoos must have a barrier that restricts physical contact between the public and nonhuman primates, but it does not specify height or material.

From your link:

About 181 million people visit U.S. zoos and aquariums every year, according to the American Zoo Association, but only about 20 adults and children have been hurt or killed by zoo animals inside enclosures since 1990

181 million per year x 26 years = 4.7 billion zoo & aquarium visits since 1990.

20 deaths/injuries by zoo animals inside enclosures.

My calculator can't calculate the percentage out to the number of decimal points that would be needed. Around 0.0000000000-something percent.

Obviously, there's not an epidemic of unsafe animal enclosures.

There might, however, be an epidemic of inattentive parents.

 

[sonjay]

I guess the USDA considers bushes to be an adequate barrier between humans and dangerous animals.

You must be unaware of the existence of the deep moat, which keeps the dangerous animals inside the enclosure.

Common sense should keep humans outside the enclosure, and proper parental attention should keep 4-year-olds outside the enclosure. That's too much to hope for, though.

 

[LaborDayRN]

From your link:

About 181 million people visit U.S. zoos and aquariums every year, according to the American Zoo Association, but only about 20 adults and children have been hurt or killed by zoo animals inside enclosures since 1990

181 million per year x 26 years = 4.7 billion zoo & aquarium visits since 1990.

20 deaths/injuries by zoo animals inside enclosures.

My calculator can't calculate the percentage out to the number of decimal points that would be needed. Around 0.0000000000-something percent.

Obviously, there's not an epidemic of unsafe animal enclosures.

There might, however, be an epidemic of inattentive parents.

Thank you SO much for posting this! It's eye opening. This was a tragic, horrific event but thankfully no a common one.

 

[Juan23]

Get off your phone and pay attention to your child.

 

[Inthedetails]

I hope it doesn't lead him into any more zoo enclosures. Because other animals just might be not so nice as the gorilla was. If this was chimpanzee instead of the gorilla in those 10 minutes the kid could have been mutilated beyond recognition. Chimpanzees go for the face, hands and private parts.

Yes, I hope he doesn't go into another zoo enclosure too, but I'm not particularly worried that he will.

Sigh.

 

[ElleElle]

Ok ...

I think zoos should be banned, unless it's some sort of wildlife park for endangered or harmed animals to be taken care of.

But, of course, this will never happen because of the millions made off visitors.

 

[sonjay]

We need to ban a parent bringing 4 kids to zoos. Lol. That would help. This kid could have jumped off a subway platform to get a closer look at the train approaching the station.

Who do we sue then?

I hope they're not planning a family vacation to the Grand Canyon anytime soon.

 

[HMSHood]

From your link:

About 181 million people visit U.S. zoos and aquariums every year, according to the American Zoo Association, but only about 20 adults and children have been hurt or killed by zoo animals inside enclosures since 1990

181 million per year x 26 years = 4.7 billion zoo & aquarium visits since 1990.

20 deaths/injuries by zoo animals inside enclosures.

My calculator can't calculate the percentage out to the number of decimal points that would be needed. Around 0.0000000000-something percent.

Obviously, there's not an epidemic of unsafe animal enclosures.

There might, however, be an epidemic of inattentive parents.

That is about 4.26 per a billion or 0.00000000426%. Very rare for sure!

I agree inattentive parenting is a widespread problem. Inattentive parents is a real pet peeve of mine.

 

[LinasK]

Get off your phone and pay attention to your child.

I know! How hard is that? All of this could've been avoided if she'd done that!!!:banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I guess the USDA considers bushes to be an adequate barrier between humans and dangerous animals.

They should at leaat plant bushes with thorns.

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[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Get off your phone and pay attention to your child.

Can you post a msm link where it was stated she was on her phone?

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