Cincinnati Zoo kills gorilla after child gets into his cage, May 28, 2016

[KaaBoom]

I just wonder if the gorilla had killed the baby what the reaction would be.

Judging by some people’s comments here, they would probably say, good, he had it coming.

 

[sonjay]

I'm not trying to be snarky or argumentative, but how would you witness someone "go over the edge on purpose"? What he did, was state he was going in the water, he went over the fence, through the brush and slid down into the water.

How would "going over the edge on purpose" look, if not like that? What other evidence would you need that it was purposeful?

Again, I'm not trying to be snarky, and his behavior is certainly bizarre. But unless he stood up at the edge of the moat, after having crossed the fence and run through the shrubs, and announced, "and now, I'm going to continue my mission to get in the water that I said I would do a moment ago by sliding down this embankment", how could it be more clear that it was purposeful?

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he went over the fence, through the brush and slid down into the water.

IMO, that would look like "on purpose" even in the absence of his stated intention to go into the water. Add in that he said that's what he was going to do, and it's unclear to me how anyone could think it was accidental.

 

[sonjay]

Judging by some people’s comments here, they would probably say, good, he had it coming.

I blame the mom, not the boy. The boy is 3. That's why 3-year-olds have parents who are supposed to be in charge of them.

 

[KaaBoom]

This is the only security breach at Gorilla World since it opened in 1978.

http://www.wlwt.com/news/Saturday-w...o-s-Gorilla-World-since-1978-opening/39787050

If it were possible to accidentally "fall" over the fence and into the enclosure, it would have happened more than once in nearly 40 years.

It took over 65 years for a tiger to jump out of the tiger exhibit at the San Francisco Zoo. That doesn’t mean it was impossible before that. It was possible, but it just means that no tiger did it in those 65 years. In this case it’s just pure luck that no child fell into the Cincinnati enclosure before .

 

[sonjay]

Does anybody know anything about the "wires"?

The boy crawled under a railing and through wires and bushes to make it into Gorilla World before falling 15 feet into a moat surrounding the yard.
http://www.wlwt.com/news/Saturday-w...o-s-Gorilla-World-since-1978-opening/39787050

 

[sonjay]

It took over 65 years for a tiger to jump out of the tiger exhibit at the San Francisco Zoo. That doesn’t mean it was impossible before that. It was possible, but it just means that no tiger did it in those 65 years. In this case it’s just pure luck that no child fell into the Cincinnati enclosure before .

No tiger did it until they were taunted and pelted with rocks by abusive teens.

And no child fell into the Cincinnati enclosure until one did on purpose.

 

[KaaBoom]

No tiger did it until they were taunted and pelted with rocks by abusive teens.

And no child fell into the Cincinnati enclosure until one did on purpose.

The point is, that there is a first time for everything.

 

[sonjay]

It’s not clear how the boy was able to enter the enclosure in the first place, but Maynard told reporters that it was the first time anyone has breached the steel-wire fence of the gorilla exhibit in its 38-year history.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/gorilla-killed-after-boy-climbs-into-enclosure.html

 

[LeeAnnB]

If my child told me they wanted to go into a zoo exhibit with the animal, I would assume the were just talking nonsense and not for a second think they actually would do it much less succeed! It's rather shocking.

 

[KrazyKatLadi]

I just wonder if the gorilla had killed the baby what the reaction would be.


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Mine would be "what idiot let their kid climb in the gorilla exhibit?"

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Does anybody know anything about the "wires"?

The boy crawled under a railing and through wires and bushes to make it into Gorilla World before falling 15 feet into a moat surrounding the yard.
http://www.wlwt.com/news/Saturday-w...o-s-Gorilla-World-since-1978-opening/39787050

I can't seem to copy the picture, but I think it was something like the fence at this link...

http://media.feeneyinc.com/gallery/cablerail/designrail44

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[eileenhawkeye]

You can read about the Pittsburgh painted dogs case to see what the reaction would be...It would not be one of sympathy.

 

[sonjay]

Those sticks sticking up at the edge of the bushes - you can't see the wire, but I think that's the wire fencing that's referred to:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-syxeVV3ZYMM/UGtGywoFwWI/AAAAAAAADO8/73-D7A74ryg/s1600/IMG_5171.JPG

 

[bluesneakers]

If my child told me they wanted to go into a zoo exhibit with the animal, I would assume the were just talking nonsense and not for a second think they actually would do it much less succeed! It's rather shocking.

Yes, and I would also assume the zoo took great care in keeping its animals and guests safe. What if this had been a teenager or adult, intent on harming the gorilla?

 

[KaaBoom]

Mine would be "what idiot let their kid climb in the gorilla exhibit?"

Nobody let the kid climb into the gorilla exhibit. The mother didn’t even know that it was her child who had fallen into the moat, until after the fact. A bystander tried to grab the child before he fell into the enclosure, but it was too late.

 

[sonjay]

Nobody let the kid climb into the gorilla exhibit. The mother didn’t even know that it was her child who had fallen into the moat, until after the fact. A bystander tried to grab the child before he fell into the enclosure, but it was too late.

Sadly, no one stopped him, either. The mother didn't even know where her child was, until after the fact.

 

[bluesneakers]

Sadly, no one stopped him, either. The mother didn't even know where her child was, until after the fact.

I can't even imagine the terror she must have felt when she saw him. You see something like that and I don't think you have any idea what's going to come next and probably somewhere in your mind you're thinking your child is dead.

JMO etc.

 

[neesaki]

The child could of been seriously hurt from the fall and could of drowned in that mote as it has water. Considering the mote is over 10 feet, the child could of been injured seriously. Luckily he was not seriously injured.

The zookeepers do not take shooting the gorilla lightly. Tranquilizers do not act fast. Shooting it was the only way to save the child's life. I cannot fault them for killing the gorilla. Those animals can be very vicious.

What really irritates me is inattentive parents. I think this is what we should be debating about. Almost every public place I go to, I keep seeing children running around. That has to be dangerous.

I totally agree about the inattentive parents, what on earth were they doing while their child was going through all the motions to gain access into this gorilla's home ? Why weren't they holding onto his hand after his remark that he wanted to get in the water with the gorilla? God forbid they were on their phones on fakebook or something.... It makes me want to scream!

According to witnesses, and the expert in this video, the gorilla was behaving in a protective manner toward the child, so I will always question whether the zoo officials overreacted and acted prematurely out of fear and panic, or if such drastic actions were truly necessary. I keep thinking also, were there not primate specialists there that knew Harambe, that could possibly have intervened for a better outcome, to have taken a bit more time and gotten to the point that they could have tranquilized him? Idk, this situation should have never happened in the first place. JMO

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/astonishing-new-footage-shows-gorilla-8082168

 

[SweetT]

I know a couple yrs ago in my back yard the Police shot a big black bear with a tranquilizer dart. It had been getting into everyones trash cans, mine was toast due to him. Even the bearproof cans don't keep them out, they learn to sit on them and jump on them to pop them open..They can lift a full one with ease. Very strong animals. Anyways this one was a very big black bear and I think LE wanted to tranquilize him and then take him out of town. So I hear them out in my back yard. They shoot him, he promptly runs up a tree, with dart inside him. He grunts and growls and makes noises for quite a while. LE keeps backing off from their position in hopes he will either fall down out of the tree or come down. They back off and back off. I actually was closer to him than they were the whole time. I could hear him. He was agitated, upset and if anyone had been really close I'm afraid of what would have happened. After a while the police just left! I was like WTF? Seriously? You shoot this animal with a tranquilizer and then leave it to run around town drunk.? It was very dark outside and as soon as they took off I hear sticks and branches popping. I see this huge bear come down out of the tree...to wander the town at will again, but this time totally impaired.
I called my son and told him I would be coming to get him after work as I didnt want him walking home after dark with this bear on the loose.
I do feel that the zoo did the right thing, it is no telling how long the gorilla would have been awake after the dart. I mean this bear was still up and going after probably an hour. I'm sure it was not at 100 percent but that is what IMO made it even more dangerous.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Parents being investigated (video): http://my.xfinity.com/video/police-...omcast/Today_in_Video?cid=hero_sf_TIV_gorilla