Cindy & George on TODAY SHOW 10/22/08

[Elley Mae]

what do you mean by that ?

Barbra Striesand Ryan O'Neil movie at the end 100 or more people in the court room.

 

[trac]

I just do not understand the not guilty plea in those check fraud cases. They have her on video doing all of them. Is this going to be another instance of them hanging KC because they want to try the case out? Why not plea bargain those cases?

What is her defense?

I believe almost all crimes, the defense claims not guilty - even ones we know for fact have happened, aka Casey's check fraud and theft

It's almost automatic, my Dad told me once why I forget - I'll ask him again - when he would have to go to court, he would get peeved with the defendent would say not guilty - but it's part of the process

 

[TURBOTHINK]

He tried to sue Greta and NG as well.
THAT turned out really good.......not.

And now I read where his malpractice insurance company is trying to settle with her mother too for all of those statements he made about her. Funny how justice may be slow but it sure does come full force when it does.

 

[4Siamese]

Ok...I'll ask again...if they have this loving relationship with their daughter, how come they haven't visited her? Nothing would stop me from seeing my daughter if I believed in her innocence. Guess, that's just me.

Because they are too busy running around New York!

 

[zadari]

Barbra Striesand Ryan O'Neil movie at the end 100 or more people in the court room.

oh i didnt see that movie lol

 

[TakeNote]

Just give us the w sign and we'll wave back LOL

maybe get a T-shirt or hat with a big W on it....hee hee

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I believe almost all crimes, the defense claims not guilty - even ones we know for fact have happened, aka Casey's check fraud and theft

It's almost automatic, my Dad told me once why I forget - I'll ask him again - when he would have to go to court, he would get peeved with the defendent would say not guilty - but it's part of the process

Not always. Most times when they have such a documented case, the best thing the attorney can do is try to get the DA to accept a deal with lesser charges. When an attorney doesn't do that, they risk the most harsh sentence in all the cases being run one right after the other rather than together.

 

[4Siamese]

Quote: I just do not understand the not guilty plea in those check fraud cases. They have her on video doing all of them. Is this going to be another instance of them hanging KC because they want to try the case out? Why not plea bargain those cases?

I think she plead "not guilty" on the checks because it would allow her to stay out of jail a while longer.

 

[Pondering Mind]

No judge in this land would even entertain any lawsuit - first it doesn't impede their life or making a living (they did this to themselves), it hasn't harmed them (they did this to themselves) and there is the freedom of speech. Any lawsuit of this kind would get thrown out faster than it was filed.

AND most blogging sites don't have poster name, address, phone, etc. 95% of blogging sites are anonymous anyways

And to add to that CASEY wasn't even making a living, unless you count what she as able to steal!

 

[TURBOTHINK]

maybe get a T-shirt or hat with a big W on it....hee hee

Maybe we could just post a big sign around there in the shade so everyone can meet together. If one gets in and the others don't we can stay in touch with what is happening by text messaging.

 

[Lanie]

I'm going to have to agree - my daughter lives in Winter Park and she's seen nothing

Last month I spent a week outside Tampa, and I was actively looking for posters, didn't see a single one.
Lanie

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Quote: I just do not understand the not guilty plea in those check fraud cases. They have her on video doing all of them. Is this going to be another instance of them hanging KC because they want to try the case out? Why not plea bargain those cases?

I think she plead "not guilty" on the checks because it would allow her to stay out of jail a while longer.

She THOUGHT. LOL

 

[RR0004]

Can someone clarify this for me, I'm recovering from a heart cath procedure and don't have the energy to look it up myself. I would so appreciate it.:boohoo:

Hope you're ok!

 

[Elley Mae]

Hope you're ok!

Ditto Mom of five

 

[Pondering Mind]

Their hell started the minute they realized Caylee was missing. That's when their world started falling apart and it has compounded ever since. I, for one, believe they will continue believing Caylee is alive until they receive the evidence found in the trunk of Casey's car and it turns out to be conclusive that Caylee is deceased. So far, this evidence has not been released to Casey'a attorney and, therefore, they continue to hope against all odds that Caylee is alive. I do not fault them for that. Is it wrong for them to love both Caylee and Casey? Not in my opinion.

YellowDog, FWIW and speaking only for myself, I NEVER said that is is wrong for them to love both Caylee and Casey. Only this, Caylee should, I would think be their #1 priority, and it does not come across that way. There is NOTHING and I do mean NOTHING that may kids could do to make me stop loving them, but that doesn't mean that I would lie for them, cover up for them or uphold them in any way if God forbid I was ever faced with something like this. I would even be there for them when they needed me, but I in no way would put Casey before the Grandchild that I believe she killed and IMO that is what they are doing. You may feel differently and that's fine. And before someone tells me that I don't know what I would do in this position unless I was in it, (and I thankfully haven't) I Do Know that I would come down on the side of my Precious Innocent, Beloved Grandchild....and still love my child. What's wrong with that?

 

[liltigress]

Don't sell grandparents short. As a grandmother, I have my own emotions.
I have 9 with 4 living in the same yard and I can tell you I am emotionally connected. Remember, grandmothers were first moms. Some of us care for these children as much as the parents with lots of them working or going to school. We stop by every day to see our grandchildren and they come over a lot. Please let Cindy grieve in the only way she knows how and try to remember that she is hurting. No one can tell anyone else how to do that and no one can know how or why some of us do things differently. Pride comes before the fall. Be carefull not to think you can handle things any differently. It opens you up to the challenge and I would not wish that on anyone. Give mercy and you'll get mercy when your time comes.

I understand your point here but have my own views as to how I would and have handled similarities in this situation.

I have one child, a daughter, 19. She and her son, 2, are living with me and my husband. I am raising my grandson. I care for him, bathe him, clothe him, feed him, give him support - financially and emotionally. He is my entire world. I raise him as my own, as my daughter is young and hasn't found her way in life yet. She was 16 when she got pregnant with him. Yes, mistakes happen. Her life is now going into a direction, much like Casey's, with a self serving attitude. She's not in the club scene since we do not live in a largely populated town with clubs but she does feel obligated to hang out with single friends who have no children which doesn't include taking him with her.

I deeply see that a child in her life was a burden due to her age and newly grown wings, wanting to be free, but I NEVER excused her actions. She loves her son, but she is just too young to properly raise him. And before anyone goes off into a 'adoption/abortion' discussion, we won't go there.

At one time I related to Cindy. I no longer do that. When Cindy was pushing Casey to do the right thing, I understood that. That's where the similarities end. I saw my daughter not doing the things that I felt should be done in the well being of my grandson. Now I am raising him instead. I will never excuse her actions and I certainly will never enable her actions as Cindy has done for Casey.

You can't FORCE someone to take responsibility if they're not mentally and emotionally prepared for it. I can say this case has caused me to take a different look at my own life and the best life for my grandson. I do what I do in order to keep my daughter from resenting her son, as it appears that Casey has done with Caylee.

If anything happened to my grandson and I thought for a moment my daughter was at fault... You betcher sweet badonkadonk that I WILL hold her accountable. I would be in pieces and broken, but I would never lie for her. My grand baby deserves much better than that... and so does Caylee.

 

[Elley Mae]

YellowDog, FWIW and speaking only for myself, I NEVER said that is is wrong for them to love both Caylee and Casey. Only this, Caylee should, I would think be their #1 priority, and it does not come across that way. There is NOTHING and I do mean NOTHING that may kids could do to make me stop loving them, but that doesn't mean that I would lie for them, cover up for them or uphold them in any way if God forbid I was ever faced with something like this. I would even be there for them when they needed me, but I in no way would put Casey before the Grandchild that I believe she killed and IMO that is what they are doing. You may feel differently and that's fine. And before someone tells me that I don't know what I would do in this position unless I was in it, (and I thankfully haven't) I Do Know that I would come down on the side of my Precious Innocent, Beloved Grandchild....and still love my child. What's wrong with that?

Nothing, absolutely nothing, unlike Cindy

 

[Mom of Five]

if i remember correctly

Thanks, that's really been bugging me.

 

[Blackwatch]

Honestly, I dont like CA either. But Im honestly getting sick and tired of people condeming these people for holding hope, as slight as it might be..

None of us have seen the evidence proving Caylee is 100% dead. Yes, LE has said this and that and I have no doubt that there is evidence. What if it was your child or grandchild and there was mountains of evidence proving the child was dead, but....

There could be a 1% or 2% chance the child is alive?? Would you not hold hope and search, would you not want the exposure these people have to find their gd.
There is no doubt they Love this child as much as any of us love the children in our families. Would you give up on your child with any tiny bit of hope?

Now with the tiny bit of chance the child is alive, (as hopeless as it seems) would you just throw your hands up and accept your child murdered someone?

I have no doubt that Caylee is playing with the Angels, I have no doubt that KC did it. But for one moment put yourself in the A's shoes. We dont have to like them or how they acted, it's bad... but Im really tired of people condeming them for holding hope when any of us would do the same thing.

In answer to the bolding, YES, I would search if it took every dollar and every minute. Have you seen George and Cindy doing the same? What about those doors Cindy was going to knock on? Did you ever see or hear of her doing it?

My opinion only.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Ditto Mom of five

Me 3 Mom of Five! Take advantage of the couch, can't imagine being a Mom of Five !!! :blowkiss: