Cindy & George on TODAY SHOW 10/22/08

[dcorrigano]

Not that this has any bearing at all on the denial the A's are going through or what KC did in the aftermath, but to answer your question, yes I went to a prescheduled birthday party a couple of days after, there are pictures of me laughing and having a great time. Why not, my baby wasnt dead, I was in deep denial, in fact I hired a babysitter for the event so we could go. Thank God I had another child or people would have thought I was even crazier than they allready thought. For the record, I went to the funeral but I dont remember any of it even to this day. It was 2 years before I found out where he was buried. Sick, I know.

Do I think KC's partying is a part of her own way to deny it.. OH HELL NO!!! Do I think GA and CA do things because they can't accept it and because if they dont they will go insane, YES.

Im looking for people to take a different prespective on some of the A's actions. I know CA said there isnt a handbook, but there isnt. My actions made people think I was a cold heared Biotch who didnt care. I cared so much I couldnt accept it.

I'm so sorry for your loss and what you've gone through....

In a way you've explained what I was trying to say about how this case is perceived by many and once again the portrayal on the Today show of half truths by the Grandparents.

Your grief was overwhelming from what you write....can you in your wildest thoughts imagine how someone who loses a child can party it up only four days later and then go on a crime spree?

And again, I'm so sorry you and your child have been a victim of a drunk driver. My prayers to you and yours ...

 

[Clearly Confused]

I buried a child almost 15 yrs ago now, who was on the sidewalk in front of our house. When a drunk driver went off the road and on the sidewalk. For several months after I made a lunch for him for school, I layed out clothes and I acted like he was still here, even got mad that he didnt respond when I called him from upstairs. My husband thought I was crazy because I never actually grieved, and talked to Dr's who told him that my mind couldnt handle it, if I accepted it I would go crazy, my brain was protecting me from what it couldnt handle. I needed to go at my own pace. It took along time before I fell down and lost it. And I completely lost it!! Was I in denial or was my mind doing what it had to do to deal with it? I get the A's. had you given me a slight chance, jeez I cant imagine how long it would have lasted.

Thank you for sharing your story with us. My heart goes out to you and your husband.

 

[tx_Dot]

Second hand smoke and a child in the house?! Maybe the all quit smoking to look like a good family with a child in it. GA said nobody in the house smokes, thats why CA washed KC's clothes from the smelly car.

IIRC.......the 'trash napper' said there was 'butts' in the A's trash, along with the torn up cap, papers, etc.....

 

[trac]

they're sitting so far apart, not touching at all, it looks like they've had a total disconnect.

CA is still in total denial, it's like watching a train wreck happen and not being able to stop it.

Thats exactly what I thought - the way they were sitting, no eye contact, no touching - it's so telling - theres no love left in this family

I really think George is there for Caylee only - tho what he said about Casey - she's a great daughter, mother, etc. These are parents who so badly want the Casey that was 12 yrs old

Very sad

 

[MiraclesHappen]

Couldn't watch the whole thing in one sitting, so I haven't seen it all , yet.

Whoa......

CIndy says they'll go to trial if they have to, but Caylee will be found before that.

:waitasec:Yup. TES will find Caylee.

 

[dcorrigano]

Thank you for sharing your story with us. My heart goes out to you and your husband.

EX now, we didnt make it. I blamed him, he blamed me eventually.. Neither of us blamed who was at fault the Drunk Driver, at the time. Unfortunately you yell and scream and act badly to the person you are closest too.
So I have a prespective of the As marriage too.

 

[drumstick]

Just saw DCorrogano's post about the loss of her child.

I am so sorry that you went through that. A very heartbreaking story.
I understand that the brain has to do what it can to survive and coping mechanisms kick in.

I just do not think that the A's should be doing these interviews when the evidence points to the contrary, and I believe this scenario is quite a bit different than yours. The media enabling them is hindering their healing, imo.

Everything about this case is heartbreaking.
GMA and the Today show don't help at all. They are only filling time.

Since CA brought up the subject of TES I want to throw this out there.
If she would or could embrace the truth and support efforts to find the body of her beloved granddaughter, she could help raise funds for the search and do so without hindering her daughter's case.
There's a way to do everything. It's just about pointing people in the right direction. IMO.

 

[trac]

I am so sorry about that. My step mom was the same way. She lost a baby at 6 weeks old and it was almost a year before reality set in and she actually broke down.

My Mom's sister was killed at 2 years old by a driver also - don't know if it was a drunk driver or not - but this was back in the 40's - it destroyed the family - my Grandmother never talked about it ever - my Grandfather never forgave my Grandmother and my Mom was caught in the middle - I think my Mom blamed herself tho never said anything and only talked briefly about it

I think it's the same with Holocaust survivors - my brothers wife's grandmother was in Auchwitz, my sister in laws mother was born in Auchwitz - they never talked about anything - the grandmother often felt guilt

The Anthony's seem to be the same - it's got to be so traumatic - how can your daughter harm an innocent - they blame themselves, they didn't raise her this way (yes thats simplistic but in the same vein)

I don't agree with Cindy and I feel she knows way more than letting on but still this is so very traumatic

 

[BeanE]

Second hand smoke and a child in the house?! Maybe the all quit smoking to look like a good family with a child in it. GA said nobody in the house smokes, thats why CA washed KC's clothes from the smelly car.

If you watch Cindy's LE interview, she says she has smelled decomp but not burned decomp. I believe the smoke referred to is from discussions of Caylee's body having been burned. (My own conclusion after careful review of LE released info.)

Also in the LE interview of Cindy, she says she washed the items because they had picked the 'smell that had permeated the car', clearly indicating (*to me*) the decomp, not cigarette smoke.

I specifically listened to these parts quite a few times, taking my own notes on it, which is why I remember it.

My opinion etc. and all that.

 

[trac]

What was the point of their interview? I don't mean this sarcastically - I cannot view it. Did they make a plea for Caylee's safe return? Did they provide any indications of what to look for? When? Any of the tips they have that people could be sensitized to???

No plea for her return - thats what I don't understand - if this child was given to someone or kidnapped why hasn't Cindy, George, Lee or even Casey plea for her safe return? This is key, meaning it's a creative diversion to say we have tips of her whereabouts and we are investigating them - instead of saying our daughter murdered our only grandchild

What was with all the um's and you know's - we need a psychologist to weigh in - with the placement of the um's and you know's it's telling as to what the Anthony's really believe or know

 

[Mendara]

GA - there are just too many things that add up that our granddaughter is still alive

What are thos things? Please list them George, please.

 

[Mendara]

Meredith asked - if you found out KC was responsible for Caylee's disappearce and/or death would you continue stand by your daughter - could you support her?

CA - You know, Caylee comes first, Caylee comes first through this whole investigation - I don't believe that's the case - I can't say what I would do - I will support her, but I don't believe that's the case

That is exactly the case CA - they don't charge people with Murder 1 on a freakin WHIM.

 

[weasel]

<<Sick, I know>>

No, not so sick. First, my deepest condolences. Secondly, I'd just like to say the mind is a funny thing, isn't it? My child was diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor at age 10. Long story short, there are some whole entire periods of time I really don't remember. When I think back on it now, there's days that seem almost like a dream. Like it really didn't happen. I'm sure alot of people thought there was something seriously wrong with me.

I guess what my point is, is that I don't think it's fair to condemn CA and GA for their actions in public. And don't expect them to suddenly start hating Casey. Not gonna happen. They may eventually hate what she did, which just my opinion but I think she did, but think about it realistically. How many people could actually ever hate their own child regardless of what they did? To me, that would not be natural.

 

[SharetheLight]

Honestly, I dont like CA either. But Im honestly getting sick and tired of people condeming these people for holding hope, as slight as it might be..

None of us have seen the evidence proving Caylee is 100% dead. Yes, LE has said this and that and I have no doubt that there is evidence. What if it was your child or grandchild and there was mountains of evidence proving the child was dead, but....

There could be a 1% or 2% chance the child is alive?? Would you not hold hope and search, would you not want the exposure these people have to find their gd.
There is no doubt they Love this child as much as any of us love the children in our families. Would you give up on your child with any tiny bit of hope?

Now with the tiny bit of chance the child is alive, (as hopeless as it seems) would you just throw your hands up and accept your child murdered someone?

I have no doubt that Caylee is playing with the Angels, I have no doubt that KC did it. But for one moment put yourself in the A's shoes. We dont have to like them or how they acted, it's bad... but Im really tired of people condeming them for holding hope when any of us would do the same thing.

I think the reason people are so frustrated with the A's is because yes if there were even a 1% chance that someone's child were alive, most people would search and search and search until they either found th child or exhausted that 1% chance. I don't think the A's have done this. This is what is so incredibly frustrating.
THis is strictly my opinion.

 

[believe09]

Everything about this case is heartbreaking.
GMA and the Today show don't help at all. They are only filling time.

Since CA brought up the subject of TES I want to throw this out there.
If she would or could embrace the truth and support efforts to find the body of her beloved granddaughter, she could help raise funds for the search and do so without hindering her daughter's case.
There's a way to do everything. It's just about pointing people in the right direction. IMO.

My bold and italic...very thoughtful post.

 

[lizzysf]

George refused to say anything about the Grand Jury testimony (good for him), Cindy stated that all the pictures shown were from before KL went missing, Cindy says that KC is a grieving mother that's being tried in the media, they don't believe that KC had anything to do with her being missing.

Oh and they were sitting as far apart on the couch as you could without being on different couches, I did not once see them touch (did anyone else?)

Did I miss anything? Anyone?

My guess is that the Today show put them on the couch apart from each other so that Cindy can't do her usual 'answer the question yes or no' signals on George's knee. I have seen a few videos with them together where she is obviously doing that.

 

[SharetheLight]

ITA. Isnt that dress one of the Tarj-et purchases using AH's cheque?

GA said it himself in the interview. The photos show KC "having a good time"... surely they have seen the date and time stamps on the pic's???

June 20 is before KC started shopping on AH's dime.

 

[dcorrigano]

<<Sick, I know>>

No, not so sick. First, my deepest condolences. Secondly, I'd just like to say the mind is a funny thing, isn't it? My child was diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor at age 10. Long story short, there are some whole entire periods of time I really don't remember. When I think back on it now, there's days that seem almost like a dream. Like it really didn't happen. I'm sure alot of people thought there was something seriously wrong with me.

I guess what my point is, is that I don't think it's fair to condemn CA and GA for their actions in public. And don't expect them to suddenly start hating Casey. Not gonna happen. They may eventually hate what she did, which just my opinion but I think she did, but think about it realistically. How many people could actually ever hate their own child regardless of what they did? To me, that would not be natural.

Thank you, my point exactly. I tell my kids all the time, I may not agree with your actions, I may even hate your actions. But I will never stop Loving you unconditionally no matter what.. HMMMMM, that's a parents job, unconditional love, regardless of actions!! Not to mention, if one of my kids killed someone I would find that so unbelievable I would deny it until the end of time... I know my kids would never do anything like that.

 

[lizzysf]

I guess she doesn't want to totally burn her bridges with Tim Miller - that's my guess

No...that's because her mouth opens and she just blabs..she has no idea what she is saying and how incongruent her statements are from day to day..

 

[BeanE]

What was the point of their interview? I don't mean this sarcastically - I cannot view it. Did they make a plea for Caylee's safe return? Did they provide any indications of what to look for? When? Any of the tips they have that people could be sensitized to???

It was the usual. Cindy wanted to haul off and punch somebody/everybody for not getting with the (her) program.

George wanted to keep Cindy from hauling off and punching somebody/everybody, especially himself.

There was a new-and-improved Cindy, who has obviously been strapped to a chair in a warehouse for the past week with attorneys screaming at her with megaphones and tape recordings playing: "The next date your daughter has is going to be Old Sparky if you don't keep your flipping mouth shut."

Positive results were evidenced by displays on Cindy's part of approximately 11.6% more "ummms" and approximately 2 squirms/wiggles that appeared to be from wanting to 'say more'.