Cindy & George on TODAY SHOW 10/22/08

[Lanie]

I agree totally. I think for many here it's simply entertainment. It's nothing more than the latest reality show. Many people seem to have forgotten these ARE real people going through the most horrific event i can imagine. Lots of people here ALSO seem to lack the empathy and compassion for these grandparents. Even IF Caylee is dead and their daughter did it.........these grandparents had no hand in it.

For those that claim to love little Caylee and then go out of their way to bash her grandparents, just remember, no way can you love her more than George & Cindy. IMO it's a miracle neither has had a nervous breakdown, their very sanity is hanging by a thread....and it's obvious.

Got me, I lack both empathy and compassion for the grandparents. Let me tell you, I think Casey acted alone, I don't think the grandparents had anything to do with what happened to Caylee, and I don't think they had any knowledge of anything until after the fact.
I don't find this entertaining, and you can bet your A$$ I am well aware these are all REAL people. IMO, some people in here seem to have forgotten CAYLEE was also a real person, murdered, IMO, and apparently also the opinion of FL LE, and the GJ, by her mother. IMO, being murdered by your own mother at the tender age of almost three is more horrific than covering your murdering daughter's hiney, but that's just me.
Lanie

 

[RR0004]

I've watched the videos of Caylee and Casey, looked at countless photos, and read what her friends have said about their bond and relationship...everyone said she was a good mother and loved that little girl. From all outward appearances Casey looked like a good & loving mother to me. I've seen nothing and read no statements about the time prior to Caylee's disappearance that would lead Cindy and George to believe Casey deliberately murdered their granddaughter.

Who would ever "expect" that their daughter was capable of murdering their own daughter? Did Cindy think her daughter was an unfit mother? Yes. Did Cindy think her daughter was a lying, thieving, sociopath? Yes. Did she suspect that Casey couldn't take care of her child properly? Yes. Does she now wish she had done something about it? IMO...YES!

 

[Mom of Five]

Well said, and I agree that we need to pull back and have some dispassionate discussion and also some compassion. It's easy to get angry and frustrated, but we're not on the inside, we don't know GA and CA, and we don't know if they're in real denial or not. I'm not sure what it would matter to justice for Caylee even if we did know for sure one way or another, honestly.

Given that situation, wouldn't the best thing be to speculate about all possibilities without sensationalizing or getting enraged, but yet to reserve some compassion or benefit of the doubt for the GPs? Wouldn't that be the truly Christian thing to do (even if it's difficult), for those of you who profess that faith?

The investigation will continue no matter how the GPs act and no matter what they believe to be true or what their mental state is.

You are absolutely correct that the investigation will continue without the help or even cooperation of the A family, but just imagine what might happen if GA and CA held their daughter accountable for her actions. I don't even hear anger from them about KC never reporting their grandaughter missing. Remember, it was CA who reported it. They don't seem to want to hold her accountable for any part of this tragedy. Maybe if her mom had grabbed her by the ear and said, "what did you do with my grandaughter?!!" and not let go until she got a reasonable answer they would have some kind of closure. They are not holding her accountable even for the parts of this tragedy that are undeniable. That is why people are angry and frustrated. Christians believe in telling the truth and holding others accountable for telling the truth. I don't think there is a single person here who does not feel compassion for the loss, but at the same time we cannot blindly put our arm around these people while they go forth on their paid press junket spewing lies from their mouths.

 

[heartfortruth]

I buried a child almost 15 yrs ago now, who was on the sidewalk in front of our house. When a drunk driver went off the road and on the sidewalk. For several months after I made a lunch for him for school, I layed out clothes and I acted like he was still here, even got mad that he didnt respond when I called him from upstairs. My husband thought I was crazy because I never actually grieved, and talked to Dr's who told him that my mind couldnt handle it, if I accepted it I would go crazy, my brain was protecting me from what it couldnt handle. I needed to go at my own pace. It took along time before I fell down and lost it. And I completely lost it!! Was I in denial or was my mind doing what it had to do to deal with it? I get the A's. had you given me a slight chance, jeez I cant imagine how long it would have lasted.

this breaks my heart ......and I know of others in similar situations.....one was a woman whose child was run over in our church parking lot....she continued to set out her place at the table and keep her room exactly the way it was and talk about her as if she were still there.......

may you feel the Spirit/ LOVE flowing out to you at this moment.........from my heart to yours, even tho' I don't know you face to face

 

[Pondering Mind]

The "timeline" has been factually documented. The Anthony's, as much as they would like to dispute it, have nothing to stand on. (they try though, such as lying about things like when the party photos were taken)
I believe the initial "knee-jerk" response from the Anthonys was to be in denial (normal response), until the facts came in. Well, the facts are in. This is no longer denial or hope just for survival. They hit the fork in the road, and have chosen their path. Why do I care? There is a dead 2 year old that deserves justice.

And deserves a final resting place if that is possible and IMO as long as the A's continue to deny the facts, Casey will NEVER tell the truth. Caylee IS what it is all about. I could give 2 chits about the rest!

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

She's not a "character" she's a real person going through the worst hell imaginable

FightTheOstrich and Linda7NJ, I think you're both right!

 

[dcorrigano]

I respectfully disagree, people are condeming the As for having hope, or living in denial. Susan Smith produced some great crocodile tears on TV begging for her children. Would you stop condeming them if they did that?

I am sorry DCorrigano,l I don't think people are condemning them for having hope, but their actions certainly DO NOT mirror their words. They aren't searching,k they aren't talking to her through the TV, doing things that anyone who has a missing child would do! That is the issue. It is like they are just spouting off some crap to cover their daughter's @$$, which is pretty much what they have been doing for KC for her whole life, probably...

 

[Kooba]

It would all stop if they asked their daughter if she killed Caylee. They know her well enough to read between the lines of her lies and deceit. They have not asked or demanded she tell them. CA said that herself on national television. They don't need a body. They need to hear it from Casey is all. The proof Caylee is dead is readily available to anyone looking for it, but they refuse to even ask their daughter because it will interfere with her defense (again, CA said this).

How many condemned murderer's parents go on press junkets all over the country and spew obvious lies told by the murderer? I can only think of one. They do not have to do this publically...they choose to! Every interview they do is by choice and they are getting paid to do. Do you hear them begging for Caylee's life to be spared from the people who supposedly have her?! Not once! Do you hear a sense of urgency in their voices to return Caylee?! Not at all!

I would not want to believe my child were capable of something horrific either, but I would also have a responsibility to my grandchild to dig to find the real truth. It would kill me to know, but it would eat me alive to ignore the facts of what happened to my grandchild and not to act on HER behalf. Which is worse?

Just one thing...has Casey been tried and convicted of murder by a jury???????? NOPE.

Let me ask you this? Do you think Laci's mom and Natalie's mom were paid for interviews? I hate to bring that up but you act like the A's are the only ones to be paid for their interview.

 

[Pondering Mind]

She's not a "character" she's a real person going through the worst hell imaginable

I respectfully disagree, Caylee went through the worst hell imaginable.

 

[azwriter]

I buried a child almost 15 yrs ago now, who was on the sidewalk in front of our house. When a drunk driver went off the road and on the sidewalk. For several months after I made a lunch for him for school, I layed out clothes and I acted like he was still here, even got mad that he didnt respond when I called him from upstairs. My husband thought I was crazy because I never actually grieved, and talked to Dr's who told him that my mind couldnt handle it, if I accepted it I would go crazy, my brain was protecting me from what it couldnt handle. I needed to go at my own pace. It took along time before I fell down and lost it. And I completely lost it!! Was I in denial or was my mind doing what it had to do to deal with it? I get the A's. had you given me a slight chance, jeez I cant imagine how long it would have lasted.

dcorrigano, so sorry you had to go though this. Losing a child, especially in an accident like you explained, must be very difficult for your heart, spirit and mind. I hope you are doing better now. You have an insight many of us can not even imagine. Thanks for sharing. Bless you.

 

[lizzysf]

Got me, I lack both empathy and compassion for the grandparents. Let me tell you, I think Casey acted alone, I don't think the grandparents had anything to do with what happened to Caylee, and I don't think they had any knowledge of anything until after the fact.
I don't find this entertaining, and you can bet your A$$ I am well aware these are all REAL people. IMO, some people in here seem to have forgotten CAYLEE was also a real person, murdered, IMO, and apparently also the opinion of FL LE, and the GJ, by her mother. IMO, being murdered by your own mother at the tender age of almost three is more horrific than covering your murdering daughter's hiney, but that's just me.
Lanie

Words spoken well. Bravo!

 

[tehcloser]

I respectfully disagree, Caylee went through the worst hell imaginable.

Yes, but heck let's just forget about her and argue about why g&c should be left alone. Much more productive. Afterall isn't that what THEY want us to do? Take the focus off Caylee?

 

[darlin gal]

Let me ask you this? Do you think Laci's mom and Natalie's mom were paid for interviews? I hate to bring that up but you act like the A's are the only ones to be paid for their interview.

I have NEVER heard of Laci's mom or Natalie's mom hiring a media attorney who was shopping around interviews, while they were out searching every day for their daughters.

Perhaps you have a link for that?

 

[Lanie]

Do you honestly think the A's have time to sit and go through the TIMELINE? Come on. How do you know what they know? How does anyone on this website know what the A's know or what they are going through? Everyone on this site wants the A's to just admit they are wrong. Why would they do that? Why would they want to believe their Caylee is gone? I believe IF Caylee is gone and her body is found, the A's will come around but for heaven's sake give them some time.
Another thing, so what if they are trying to save Casey. What do you care? She is their daughter, not yours and they have every right to save Casey and Caylee. From what I have read here, no one really wants to keep Caylee's name in the public eye. It sounds like everyone wants the A's to shut up but they are the ones the media is concentrating on and therefore keeping the focus on Caylee. Seems to me they are doing exactly what they should be doing.

Speaking for myself, I don't care if they ever admit they were wrong. I also have stated in this very forum I have no problem with them talking, talking, talking all they want.
We have different opinions. You believe C&G are acting out of true denial. I don't. I can understand your points stemming from your beliefs, why don't you give some of the rest of us some credit as well? You point out we don't know what the Anthony's know, and neither do you. I have come to my conclusions based on what I have seen, and you have apparently come to an opposite conclusion based on what you have seen.
Don't come on here implying I don't care about Caylee, or about her being found, because that is exactly what I want. I gave the GP's the benefit of the doubt as long as I was able to, that time is long past, and just because I find them conniving, heartless people doesn't not then equal I don't give a d@mn about Caylee.
Lanie

 

[Mom of Five]

Mom of Five,
Do you honestly know you would? Do you really think you would jump on the bandwagon and prosecute before you knew the entire truth? I have never said LE are not good guys and gals. What I am saying is, no one knows what these people are going through and to constantly bash them for what they believe is being hypocritical. And why isn't Casey a good parent to Caylee? Just because she lied and stole money that makes her a bad parent? I have lied before to save face and I am a mother of three. I think I am a wonderful mother. We do not know everything that has gone on in that household. What we have seen and read are all the negatives. We have also seen pictures of a loving family. Casey being a loving mother to Caylee. People are prosecuting the grandparents for doing nothing but loving their child and grandchild.

What I said was that I wouldn't go on national television news shows and declare her innocence. The A's imo are inviting this kind of scrutiny by putting themselves out there for public consumption. Spending the interview talking about how their daughter could never have done this instead of pleading with kidnappers to give their grandbaby back. Taking money for interviews and using it to bail their daughter out. Why aren't they traveling to these places that they think Caylee might be? Natalee Holloway's mom stayed in Aruba forever and NH family has made several trips back to Aruba tryuing to find her. Why are they at the TODAY show talking about the virtues of KC when they could be in Puerto Rico or somewhere else that Caylee might be? I'll tell you why, because they are on a media blitz attempting to improve the public's view of their monster KC. No one ever brings up the fact that KC lied to everyone for 31 days about the whereabouts of Caylee, it's like GA and CA have forgotten this.

 

[YellowDog]

I respectfully disagree, Caylee went through the worst hell imaginable.

The Anthonys have also gone through the worst hell imaginable.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Yes, but heck let's just forget about her and argue about why g&c should be left alone. Much more productive. Afterall isn't that what THEY want us to do? Take the focus off Caylee?

"ABSOLUTELY" :furious: Sorry, for a minute there I thought Caylee was why we are all here to begin with. Silly me!

 

[Linda7NJ]

You are absolutely correct that the investigation will continue without the help or even cooperation of the A family, but just imagine what might happen if GA and CA held their daughter accountable for her actions. I don't even hear anger from them about KC never reporting their granddaughter missing. Remember, it was CA who reported it. They don't seem to want to hold her accountable for any part of this tragedy. Maybe if her mom had grabbed her by the ear and said, "what did you do with my granddaughter?!!" and not let go until she got a reasonable answer they would have some kind of closure. They are not holding her accountable even for the parts of this tragedy that are undeniable. That is why people are angry and frustrated. Christians believe in telling the truth and holding others accountable for telling the truth. I don't think there is a single person here who does not feel compassion for the loss, but at the same time we cannot blindly put our arm around these people while they go forth on their paid press junket spewing lies from their mouths.

Well, I am not a Christian...don't know what that has to do with it anyway:waitasec:..........I feel like hugging them both every time I see them on tv. If I lived anywhere near them, I'd be taking them food, offering to run errands for them, hose down the protesters.

 

[azwriter]

What was the point of their interview? I don't mean this sarcastically - I cannot view it. Did they make a plea for Caylee's safe return? Did they provide any indications of what to look for? When? Any of the tips they have that people could be sensitized to???

Pink, your posts are always right on. I agree with your questions - why no plea for Caylee's safe return if they believe she is alive and being held by someone.
When your child or grandchild in this case, is missing, you go on network tv and address the person(s) who have your child. You beg, you plea and you impress upon them that the child needs to be returned to the people who love them.
We do not, have not and will not hear this from Cindy and George. I look at their interviews as a way to build a defense for their daughter, who is all they have now. These interviews are driven by their daughter's attorney.
jmo

 

[Pondering Mind]

The Anthonys have also gone through the worst hell imaginable.

I've lost 2 children, I know ALL about that hell and I still say it doesn't compare.