Cindy's Coworkers @ Gentiva

[Wise Old Owl]

The "notice on the front door" has always bothered me. In Florida, the mailman puts any and all notices for registered mail IN YOUR MAILBOX!!! I have never had one attached to the front door - NEVER. The mailman is an agent for the post office and the post office is bound by the monetary contract of the registered mail cost to notify the receipent of such letter. Therefore, MUST BE delivered and PUT IN MAILBOX - not on front door, hung on bush, flung out of car on way by like a newspaper. Nope - no way that notice was on the front door. Ain't buyin' it.

 

[Theonly1]

:clap: Exactly! Not, "I'm going to give Casey a chance to explain herself." What???

And then once CA gets the nerve to finally call/text Casey to call home or come home immediately she gets IGNORED (hence the call that then went out to Amy to help find Casey). I think CA should have known from the "get go" that there was a major problem. How many outsiders had to tell her there was a problem before she got a clue--her mother, her brother, her co-workers, et al?

 

[debs]

Cindy confirms that Casey and George were fighting a lot right around that time, what do you think the reason for the fights were? If he didn't confront her about not having a job, what was it that caused so much anger between the two of them? I'm really curious about what that may have been.

And btw, I totally believe he never confronted her about the job, he knew it was pointless, as Cindy would step in and cover for and protect Casey, as she did with the $4,000 Casey stole from them.

You have to depend on the family dynamics, such as we know them. We know George acts as a pacifier, and we know that he has an explosive anger. We know that when George is pushed up against the wall, he'll come out swinging. We know that Cindy states that she told George she'd handle things and told George to go to work, yet it is Cindy herself that goes to work and we have no information to prove that George did. George didn't have to work until 3, and Cindy was back at work by 1:30-2. So we know that there is a divergence of the story Cindy tells.

Knowing that Cindy likes to tell stories that paint her in the most favorable light, we can assume then that the story about George and Casey having fights was done in a self-serving manner....that is to say, to set Cindy once removed from the conflict and provide her with the martyr sufferer role she relishes. "Poor Cindy, has to live with that strife in her home and all she wants is to take care of her grandbaby."

If you listen to the August 14 tape, Casey talks a lot about how she and George were just learning to communicate again. Seems weird to have that come out and then have this story from Cindy. I think it was Cindy, stressed to the max, needs a second vacation so soon after the first one, Cindy.....who was fighting with Casey.

 

[zoey]

Did she, or didn't she call? We all know that if she did she would have been asked "KC who"? If she didn't call, why not? Because she knew the whole Universal employment was a lie? I do not understand this woman.

where was it that they didn't get the car on July 15th???? thought that was the start...where or what have I missed....thanks in advance...

 

[tx_Dot]

Would you want him to call you mommy? I find that really creepy.

I don't think anyone 'heard' this.....I think it's 'another' something that KC "said" (& KC lies).

 

[maza]

The vacation Cindy took the first week in July is what makes no sense to me.

(is there a thread on Cindy's vacation in July? cuz i'd love to read that...)

 

[whiteangora]

The "notice on the front door" has always bothered me. In Florida, the mailman puts any and all notices for registered mail IN YOUR MAILBOX!!! I have never had one attached to the front door - NEVER. The mailman is an agent for the post office and the post office is bound by the monetary contract of the registered mail cost to notify the receipent of such letter. Therefore, MUST BE delivered and PUT IN MAILBOX - not on front door, hung on bush, flung out of car on way by like a newspaper. Nope - no way that notice was on the front door. Ain't buyin' it.

I called my Postmaster and asked about this. He said any notice about registered or certified mail will be left in the mailbox. On the first day of delivery attempt of such mail, the mailman will come to your door and attempt to give you said mail and get your signature. If you do not answer your door the notice goes in the mailbox.

 

[impatientredhead]

The "notice on the front door" has always bothered me. In Florida, the mailman puts any and all notices for registered mail IN YOUR MAILBOX!!! I have never had one attached to the front door - NEVER. The mailman is an agent for the post office and the post office is bound by the monetary contract of the registered mail cost to notify the receipent of such letter. Therefore, MUST BE delivered and PUT IN MAILBOX - not on front door, hung on bush, flung out of car on way by like a newspaper. Nope - no way that notice was on the front door. Ain't buyin' it.

I have gotten the notice on my door. All my regular mail goes in the box but since they need my signature he walks up to the door and when there is no answer they leave the little slip on the door. I go in through the garage and something could be on my front door for a couple of days without me noticing. I don't find it particularly odd.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I have gotten the notice on my door. All my regular mail goes in the box but since they need my signature he walks up to the door and when there is no answer they leave the little slip on the door. I go in through the garage and something could be on my front door for a couple of days without me noticing. I don't find it particularly odd.

Just a question - do you live in Florida? rural or urban setting? I would think IF you are in a fairly rural area that the mailman would leave it on the door ...... if you don't get a notice of a registered letter and have resulting actions taken against you for not responding to the sender then the post office is asked - where did you leave the notice and if that mailman says "I left it on the door" - well then he's in trouble as everything he delivers MUST be put in the mailbox - which is why its a crime for solicitors to put flyers in mailboxes - you can't just go into anyone's mailbox. Sorry, just thinking out loud here.

 

[cfromcanada]

Can we do an experiment? Like they did with the pizza box? :crazy:

Don't you worry!! I have performed the experiment and it is true that you will not black out!!!

 

[magnolia]

I don't think CA saying she couldn't afford it meant that she wouldn't gladly take Caylee, I think
"afford it" referred to getting an attorney, especially since she was already supporting Caylee anyway.
Maybe CA had talked to an attoney or someone to see what was involved in trying to get custody from KC. I think CA threatned the custody thing and KC probably told her "no way" so CA knew it would be a custody battle.

CA complaining to the supervisor because she "always had Caylee", tells me, she didn't want full responsibility of her.

 

[debs]

Just a question - do you live in Florida? rural or urban setting? I would think IF you are in a fairly rural area that the mailman would leave it on the door ...... if you don't get a notice of a registered letter and have resulting actions taken against you for not responding to the sender then the post office is asked - where did you leave the notice and if that mailman says "I left it on the door" - well then he's in trouble as everything he delivers MUST be put in the mailbox - which is why its a crime for solicitors to put flyers in mailboxes - you can't just go into anyone's mailbox. Sorry, just thinking out loud here.

Their mailbox is to the right of the front door, right next to the house numbers. Even if they go through the garage on a daily basis, they would still OPEN THE FRONT DOOR TO GET THEIR MAIL.

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p.s., that is Mallory in the picture.

 

[tx_Dot]

Just a question - do you live in Florida? rural or urban setting? I would think IF you are in a fairly rural area that the mailman would leave it on the door ...... if you don't get a notice of a registered letter and have resulting actions taken against you for not responding to the sender then the post office is asked - where did you leave the notice and if that mailman says "I left it on the door" - well then he's in trouble as everything he delivers MUST be put in the mailbox - which is why its a crime for solicitors to put flyers in mailboxes - you can't just go into anyone's mailbox. Sorry, just thinking out loud here.

"When" the A's got their notice is prolly one of their "mis-truths".....

With 'financial problems" they prolly dreaded picking it up.....they would not have known from the notice that it was from a 'tow yard'.

 

[Pattymarie]

I am curious as to what the co-workers NOW think. Also, I wonder who is doing the job Cindy used to do? Is she still considered an employee?

 

[metalcrystal]

The smell of death ..
The fact that I'd not seen my grand daughter in a month and her stuff was in the vehicle ..

I'd 911 it so fast your head would spin ..


Maybe YOU don't know what you'd do but, I certainly know what I would do ..

right on! Me too Marla!

 

[metalcrystal]

I know what I would do as well but that doesn't make it the only acceptable response. Yes we would have done it differently, but Caylee was dead for over a month at this point the four hours that passed really didn't really change the outcome of the situation. People react differently, as I posted earlier in this thread my husband went to work and gave a presentation right after finding out his mother had been murdered by his father. What most people on this board would have done, no, but that doesn't make it wrong.

This is true, and in times of deep stress our individual pathology takes over. So what you do depends on what is your usual way of dealing with things and coping. Ignoring bad stuff and giving KC a chance to "explain herself" is the way they seem to handle things. Maybe in their family pathology they couldn't or didnt know how to do anything else. In all fairness.

 

[impatientredhead]

Just a question - do you live in Florida? rural or urban setting? I would think IF you are in a fairly rural area that the mailman would leave it on the door ...... if you don't get a notice of a registered letter and have resulting actions taken against you for not responding to the sender then the post office is asked - where did you leave the notice and if that mailman says "I left it on the door" - well then he's in trouble as everything he delivers MUST be put in the mailbox - which is why its a crime for solicitors to put flyers in mailboxes - you can't just go into anyone's mailbox. Sorry, just thinking out loud here.

I am in a subdivision neighborhood, not in Florida. First note is on the door since they attempt to get your signature. Reminder notices are in the box. They leave 3 or 4 notices that have numbers on them, there would be no question you had ample warning it was there.

Same mailman leaves oversized packages that don't fit in the box on my doorstep.

 

[april_showers]

With all due respect we have to realize that these were co-workers. Not sure what Cindy's place of employment was like, but from past experiences I wouldn't hold onto everything that they said as gospel. Co-Workers love to speculate and gossip. Maybe Cindy didn't share a lot of the information with her co-workers or just told them what she wanted them to know. The rumor mill in an office environment can be treacherous at times. This is not to say that what they have said was false, but it was of their opinion and not necessarily all accurate. Co-workers sometimes have a way of spinning a simple story or event. JMO

backtracking for a second here...

when I read all of these docs yesterday, it was pretty huge to me that all these coworkers gave such similar accounts. However, at that time I was so excited to read everything, I’d failed to notice these interviews took place in November (thanks everyone who pointed that out!). I’m not trying to beat a dead horse, but that is an important factor to take into account. As Who What When suggests – these (most likely) very gossipy co-workers have had adequate chance to compare stories, read all the blogs, watch the news, etc. Most of us spend hours a day gossiping about (or, more officially, “discussing&#8221 this case. Can you imagine if any of us worked with Cindy?? I’d NEVER get anything else done J

this, combined with the fact that these docs are Yuri’s summaries of what he considers to be important details, and not actual transcripts of the interviews, makes me want to stress how much they need to be taken with a grain of salt.

I’m not saying they have no validity (and I think the fact that Cindy went back to work and had to be coerced to leave after finding the car is a HUGE detail&#8230, but I do think these interviews should be viewed more as a collective ‘office impression’ and not individual accounts that support one another.

I can just picture how these interviews went…

“Oh yeah, I always noticed how stressed Cindy was about the baby. I totally suggested she do something about it.”
“Yeah, it was so obvious to all of us that Casey was pregnant. I can’t believe Cindy didn’t pick up on that!!”
“We always thought all her stories were strange. It’s so hard to believe Cindy fell for all of Casey’s lies…”


Again, I think there is some good info to be gleaned from these conversations, but I’m just looking at them through the eyes of someone quite familiar with both groupthink tendencies and typical water cooler behavior J

It kind of reminds me of how coworkers will distance themselves from a colleague after they get fired. “I always though Sally did a bad job.” “Plus, we all thought she was kind of weird.” “Yeah, did you ever notice how she’d take the last cup of coffee and not make more?” “She was SO obnoxious!!” etc.


Just my two cents…

 

[Never4GetCaylee]

The "notice on the front door" has always bothered me. In Florida, the mailman puts any and all notices for registered mail IN YOUR MAILBOX!!! I have never had one attached to the front door - NEVER. The mailman is an agent for the post office and the post office is bound by the monetary contract of the registered mail cost to notify the receipent of such letter. Therefore, MUST BE delivered and PUT IN MAILBOX - not on front door, hung on bush, flung out of car on way by like a newspaper. Nope - no way that notice was on the front door. Ain't buyin' it.

I don't live in Florida, but the USPS is a federal agency, not a state agency and I have received registered letter notifications stuck to my front door. I've only ever gotten three, but none were left in my mailbox, they were all stickers put on my door.

Not saying C&A didn't get theirs in their mailbox, just noting it isn't out of the realm of possiblity that it was on the door.

 

[Never4GetCaylee]

CA complaining to the supervisor because she "always had Caylee", tells me, she didn't want full responsibility of her.

I don't know, isn't it just possible that Cindy was tired that day and just made an off hand comment like "I'd love to go home and relax, but I have to watch Caylee again." or "I'm watching Caylee tonight, seems like I'm always watching Caylee lately." I babysit my nieces quite bit, sometimes I complain about it, it doesn't mean anything bad or that I wouldn't take them in if need be.