Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #2

[Parkie]

Crabstick; Let me tell you this; The printing ink was a Media Beat up. Not the cops. BTW the cops are a long, long way from Home base IMHO.

 

[crabstick]

Crabstick; Let me tell you this; The printing ink was a Media Beat up. Not the cops. BTW the cops are a long, long way from Home base IMHO.

Police were questioning staff of the print shop. Pantone 347 the colour ink used on St Patricks Green Irish flags, the day Glennon went missing.

Wasnt one of the other missing girls seen heading up Great Eastern Highway? All that way to Southern Cross? Is the roadside lined with bodies? Another missing in Kalgoorlie? Goven?

Police did say the person possibly worked away. How would they determine this? Bodies had saltwater on them according to police in one media report?

 

[Sutton]

I might become a temporary MSM post monitor That is the only way to ensure the thread doesn't go down the rabbit hole again. So I will steer clear of social media details and other borderline topics for now.

Moving along...

Yep, I definitely get the impression that the media thinks Robyn Santen's husband is involved in her disappearance, but haven't seen an explanation as to why. There is no reason to think Robyn is related to the CSK girls. But I am open minded to other opinions.

Does anyone have any "profile" theories to put forth? Either a complete profile or just a small detail would be interesting.

 

[crabstick]

Desperately trying to control the information is just the persona police are looking for.

No one is saying Santen is a victim, but hallmarks of the incident have attributes of similar crimes. This is Websleuth, not finger of blame on people already in some cases cleared by police.

This guy did too. Was he ever a security officer or bouncer? Death of Jill Meagher - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jill_Meagher
Abducted, taken out, raped, dumped by the side of the road. It appears a common tactic by predators.

Ok, Ill call it a conspiracy then. Conspiracy to set up some of the current POIs.

The POIs might be victims and not by effort of police. Unfortunately for you I have a lot of information not publicly known because I am close enough within the community to have it.

I might become a temporary MSM post monitor That is the only way to ensure the thread doesn't go down the rabbit hole again. So I will steer clear of social media details and other borderline topics for now.

Moving along...

Yep, I definitely get the impression that the media thinks Robyn Stayner's husband is involved in her disappearance, but haven't seen an explanation as to why. There is no reason to think Robyn is related to the CSK girls. But I am open minded to other opinions.

Does anyone have any "profile" theories to put forth? Either a complete profile or just a small detail would be interesting.

 

[Bartholemeus]

Desperately trying to control the information is just the persona police are looking for.

No one is saying Santen is a victim, but hallmarks of the incident have attributes of similar crimes. This is Websleuth, not finger of blame on people already in some cases cleared by police.

This guy did too. Was he ever a security officer or bouncer? Death of Jill Meagher - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jill_Meagher
Abducted, taken out, raped, dumped by the side of the road. It appears a common tactic by predators.

Ok, Ill call it a conspiracy then. Conspiracy to set up some of the current POIs.

The POIs might be victims and not by effort of police. Unfortunately for you I have a lot of information not publicly known because I am close enough within the community to have it.

Who has been cleared? It is my understanding that none of the main suspects have been cleared.

And what community are you "close to"?

 

[billywhizz]

Dixie ruled out
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2006-12-07/uk-man-ruled-out-as-suspect-in-claremont-killings/2147790
http://www.smh.com.au/national/wa-police-defend-role-in-dixie-probe-20080224-1uda.html


Lance Williams dismissed
http://stju.blogspot.com.au/2015/06/dont-worry-about-it-weve-got-our-man-is.html

Weygers never officially ruled out
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...k=98e072d1940a9f855bd0adc2a1561681-1440664907

 

[billywhizz]

Ok, Ill call it a conspiracy then. Conspiracy to set up some of the current POIs.

The POIs might be victims and not by effort of police. Unfortunately for you I have a lot of information not publicly known because I am close enough within the community to have it.

Say for example the CSK is smart enough to create an elaborate conspiracy (using the number 347) to frame current POI's... Don't you think it would have helped if there was some planted DNA left at the crime scene or something incriminating to frame the people that are supposed to be being framed?

Maybe even a Crimestoppers report of that particular person's (the one being framed) car being seen in the area at the time?

I don't know about you, but alarm bells start going off when a people start claiming that the CSK is trying to frame someone.

Poster is either a POI or a mental.

Unfortunate.

 

[Bartholemeus]

Dixie ruled out
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2006-12-07/uk-man-ruled-out-as-suspect-in-claremont-killings/2147790
http://www.smh.com.au/national/wa-police-defend-role-in-dixie-probe-20080224-1uda.html


Lance Williams dismissed
http://stju.blogspot.com.au/2015/06/dont-worry-about-it-weve-got-our-man-is.html

Weygers never officially ruled out
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...k=98e072d1940a9f855bd0adc2a1561681-1440664907

There's 5 suspects that dominant discussion and who Crabstick is referring to: LW, PW, SR, Judoman and TT.

None have publicly been ruled out. The LW article above is an anonymous blog and can't be taken seriously.


Put it this way:

How could LW possibly be ruled out?

Something would have had to change such as finding a DNA read, or learning of an air tight alibi.

It's highly unlikely either of these have happened. LW is most certainly still a suspect.

 

[billywhizz]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/video/watch/28288427/the-claremont-killer-part-two/#page1

Lance Williams is interviewed in this clip by a TV reporter.

"Are you happy you have been cleared?"

This happened in 2008 after the CIA doco was released

 

[Bartholemeus]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/video/watch/28288427/the-claremont-killer-part-two/#page1

Lance Williams is interviewed in this clip by a TV reporter.

"Are you happy you have been cleared?"

This happened in 2008 after the CIA doco was released

We need to take into account that this is journalism - Today Tonight/ACA/60 Minutes/Sunday type journalism where the journalists decide on an angle and manipulate everything in favour of the view they're trying to push. They do this because it creates more shock value and gets more viewers.

I know the footage was shot prior to the recent episode - but so was most of it, and most of it had been heard before. The episode was a rehash of old information.

If LW has been ruled out I'll eat my hat. What evidence could have possibly become available to rule him out with?

 

[Sutton]

Past threads are usually boring. But thread #1 is quite amusing. I was not amused at the time, but rereading it now is like watching a fight between Mystery Science Theater and a Comedy of Errors. Many CSK posters are witty and I'm amazed at the the replies that went over my head the first go round (it was disorienting).

I'm not making light of the girls' experiences or forgetting the horror they suffered. Just saying good posts were ignored amid the chaos.

 

[Sutton]

Can we go though each POI one at a time and list every single reason why they are the CK? Not why they should be dismissed, but why they should be considered? In the first thread a poster mentioned several times that a lone SR was his top suspect. That poster is banned. But I haven't seen serious consideration for SR as the lone perp. Many have said he lacks the intelligence.
But, many of the U.S.'s most prolific and organized killers have low IQ's. I have read theories that they are almost "idiot savants" (idk if that term is p.c., it sounds offensive, and I don't wish to to unintentionally offend anyone).

 

[Sutton]

SR, lone killer -
Supporting and Circumstantial Evidence

•Owned a Ford a Falcon taxi, and LE has long speculated a taxi was used to abduct the girls.
•A Falcon was seen and reported to have been parked in the middle of the night, very near CG's disposal sight, possibly on the same night she was taken.
•Approached police with an odd story of picking SS up the night before she disappeared and said another woman and a man, both unknown to SS also shared the ride (needs more/simpler detail, including the meeting with SR's attorney)
•Owned a stun gun, which he admitted to using on a cat
•Took pictures of his deceased gf in their bed (some find this creepy)
•??

 

[Bartholemeus]

I have read theories that they are almost "idiot savants" (idk if that term is p.c., it sounds offensive, and I don't wish to to unintentionally offend anyone).

Don't worry, luck has it that idiots seldom know they are idiots (because they are in fact idiots) let alone know what that means. There's probably a few serial killers reading this in their cells who want to kill you but they're on death row and not going to be able to get out in time.

 

[Bartholemeus]

SR, lone killer -
Supporting and Circumstantial Evidence

•Owned a Ford a Falcon taxi, and LE has long speculated a taxi was used to abduct the girls.
•A Falcon was seen and reported to have been parked in the middle of the night, very near CG's disposal sight, likely on the same night she was taken.
• ??? What else?

I'd suggest all posters put the POI's name and underline it on top of each post so we can keep track of the thread and if we need to go back we can easily identify posts on specific POIs.

 

[Sutton]

I'd suggest all posters put the POI's name and underline it on top of each post so we can keep track of the thread and if we need to go back we can easily identify posts on specific POIs.

Good idea. I don't care if someone wants to add to/adjust my post, I don't want credit...I copied my info from thread one

I just saw you had lone SR near the top of your list at one time. Why?

Would he be physically capable of disposal?

Idk how to underline. (U) text (/U) but with brackets instead of parenthesis doesn't work. Suggestions?

 

[Bartholemeus]

Steve Ross

Good idea. I don't care if someone wants to add to/adjust my post, I don't want credit...I copied my info from thread one

I just saw you had lone SR near the top of your list at one time. Why?

Would he be physically capable of disposal?

Idk how to underline. (U) text (/U) but with brackets instead of parenthesis doesn't work. Suggestions?

Because he approached Macro and said he had SS in his cab the night before. He said SS and a guy shared a cab with a woman who got dropped off at Dalkeith. Woman got dropped off in Dalkeith, SS and other guy went to the Windsor Hotel in South Perth.

AFAIK the woman who allegedly got dropped at Dalkeith has never been confirmed, nor SS or the unknown guy.

General consensus is SR made it up. There's speculation that he did this to pre-empt an excuse if Macro found DNA in his taxi.

PW as a sole agent has to be ruled out as he has an airtight alibi on one of the nights. The only way he could be involved is in cahoots with SR. SR picked the girl up earlier and picked PW up when his function (his alibi) finished.

SR physically capable of disposal - yes.




To underline: Use the "U" bottom just above where you type in your reply. Highlight what you want underlined and click the button.

 

[Bartholemeus]

Steve Ross

Why he might be the CSK

- Lied to police about SS being in his cab the previous night. This could have been a pre-emptive strike to explain any DNA in his taxi
- Has a taxi. This is the easiest way for a killer to get girls into his car
- Animal cruelty. Tasered a cat. Pissed in an esky, tasered a cat.

Why he might not be the CSK

- Has access to picking up girls all over Perth but chooses Claremont on all occasions. The only possible explanation for this is he resents little rich girls. He could have got little rich girls at Cottesloe or Nedlands too. The CSK likely has some sort of affiliation with Claremont specifically. I don't believe our mate Stevo has a connection.

- He's dumb as sh**. Was drilled by Macro. The chances of him not slipping up and contradicting a lie is slim.


IMO there's much stronger suspects than this in LW and Judoman. TT is the dark horse because we just don't know enough facts.

 

[Parkie]

I feel Plod need to look into the deleted You Tube name Street Puffters. And Alan Newton of the Sunday Times can check the IP address of a blogger who used the name Capisce. The blog got removed & cannot be found. One hopes he wasn`t stupid enough to delete it entirely.

 

[marble]

What was the name of the deleted blog?
thanks.