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Slash to throat, she knew it would be a fatal slashing, she had time to think, she thought and said "this will surely kill him" then almost decapitated him, there is absolute premeditation!! MOO

THIS. Thank you. 24/7 this. Forever and ever. It IS premeditation. She could have formed it in nanoseconds.

If there is anyone on that jury who doesn't understand this, I pray they aren't part of the final 12. :please:
 
Hi everyone,

Long time lurker (a few years), recently made it official and joined and this is my first time posting.
*waves to everyone*

I am very passionate about the trials that I follow and this one has affected me in a way I did not expect. I'm a little reluctant to share my thoughts on it, as I oddly feel the desire to keep them private.

Having said that, I just can't sit silently and not comment any longer. I have to say that if I were a juror in this trial, I would be highly offended and disgusted having to sit through this today. I don't want to break any site rules, so I will just say that it's insulting to my intelligence. Compared to JM's organized, thought provoking closing that was a straight path to Murder 1, KN's closing is like driving through a neighborhood full of cul de sac's on the way to the land of nowhere. I'm starting to get a headache from listening, and am gladly welcoming the commercials on HLN.[/B

]If I were on the jury, I would disregard all other testimony and just look at the autopsy photos and the crime scene photos. Those speak volumes to me. There was no need to slit his throat unless she wanted to kill him. Period. End of story. That is premeditated and shows a full effort was put forth to end this man's life. The stabbing and gunshot could be argued to be in self defense, but not the injury to the throat. The crime scene shows he was desperately, desperately trying to get away from her. As JM said yesterday, JA likes to add extra details to make her lies more believable. Those extra measures are what is going to convict her, IMHO. The level of overkill does not fit into self defense. There is absolutely no way to successfully justify slitting someone's throat.

My heart breaks for Travis Alexander's family and friends. I can not imagine what it must be like for them to have to sit through this.

From listening to the jury's questions, it shows they are listening and watching and are very intelligent. My hope is that they are unanimous. I am not sure if I could face her getting off the way CA did (pun not intended). It took me several months to get over the CA verdict (who am I kidding, I still get a pang of rage at the thought of it). I'm sure they are noticing that the defendant doodles, writes notes to JW and KN, smirks and rubs her nose raw. It would offend me if I were them. I expect if someone is on trial for their life, they would be more attentive and humble. Instead, this defendant would rather draw pictures to sell, write down witty quotes to have posted on twitter and/or figure the perfect way to structure a thought provoking sentence for her self indulgent manifesto. It's mind boggling that her DT never advised her to at least pretend she was interested. I think if/when she gets a guilty verdict, and some of the jury talk to the media, they will comment on her behavior and how it aided them in their decision.

I hope I post this right, I have no idea if I am. My apologies if I am not, or if I have broken any rules.


BBM

That's what the entire defense has been like during this entire trial (but as the saying goes "only the strong survive.")



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Now more than ever I hope Juan finishes up with...


If I killed Travis, I'd BEG for the death penalty :jail:

I would save that for the penalty phase.

I know they're human but jurors are not supposed to consider the sentence when deciding innocence or guilt. I'd hate to have someone (a juror) skeevy about the DP factoring that in when deciding the verdict. They'd possibly go M2 or even manslaughter so DP wasn't onthe table. (Even though they said under oath they'd have no problem with the DP, someone could have lied or have their mind changed)

But it's the perfect closing sentence for the penalty phase.
 
Jeff Gold YES he said none of Jodi's story of domestic violence doesn't ring true to him at all and she has defended a lot of people.
 
Hi everyone,

Long time lurker (a few years), recently made it official and joined and this is my first time posting.
*waves to everyone*

I am very passionate about the trials that I follow and this one has affected me in a way I did not expect. I'm a little reluctant to share my thoughts on it, as I oddly feel the desire to keep them private.

Having said that, I just can't sit silently and not comment any longer. I have to say that if I were a juror in this trial, I would be highly offended and disgusted having to sit through this today. I don't want to break any site rules, so I will just say that it's insulting to my intelligence. Compared to JM's organized, thought provoking closing that was a straight path to Murder 1, KN's closing is like driving through a neighborhood full of cul de sac's on the way to the land of nowhere. I'm starting to get a headache from listening, and am gladly welcoming the commercials on HLN.

If I were on the jury, I would disregard all other testimony and just look at the autopsy photos and the crime scene photos. Those speak volumes to me. There was no need to slit his throat unless she wanted to kill him. Period. End of story. That is premeditated and shows a full effort was put forth to end this man's life. The stabbing and gunshot could be argued to be in self defense, but not the injury to the throat. The crime scene shows he was desperately, desperately trying to get away from her. As JM said yesterday, JA likes to add extra details to make her lies more believable. Those extra measures are what is going to convict her, IMHO. The level of overkill does not fit into self defense. There is absolutely no way to successfully justify slitting someone's throat.

My heart breaks for Travis Alexander's family and friends. I can not imagine what it must be like for them to have to sit through this.

From listening to the jury's questions, it shows they are listening and watching and are very intelligent. My hope is that they are unanimous. I am not sure if I could face her getting off the way CA did (pun not intended). It took me several months to get over the CA verdict (who am I kidding, I still get a pang of rage at the thought of it). I'm sure they are noticing that the defendant doodles, writes notes to JW and KN, smirks and rubs her nose raw. It would offend me if I were them. I expect if someone is on trial for their life, they would be more attentive and humble. Instead, this defendant would rather draw pictures to sell, write down witty quotes to have posted on twitter and/or figure the perfect way to structure a thought provoking sentence for her self indulgent manifesto. It's mind boggling that her DT never advised her to at least pretend she was interested. I think if/when she gets a guilty verdict, and some of the jury talk to the media, they will comment on her behavior and how it aided them in their decision.

I hope I post this right, I have no idea if I am. My apologies if I am not, or if I have broken any rules.
Nice said and WELCOME!!!!
 
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Nurmi just came out of chambers. He is tucking in his salmony purple shirt and dawning his armor again. #JodiArias
 
Seque where are you.....it's almost 5 o'clock.....stop trying to shoot those turkeys ....and join me in a potable......

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Yay!!! Its 5 pm in Nova Scotia dontchya know....:rockon:
:toast: to justice!!!!
 
Yep I heard it but now that we're getting close to a verdict and the media is going to be scrambling for first dibs on interviews with jurors and defense witnesses and lawyers I'm not surprised. I'm disgusted.

Yep. She is pro-defense and will do anything for drama so no surprise that her observations are what they are...
 
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Everyone is shuffling back in now. Counsel is still in chambers. My lunch was mediocre at best. Still kind of hungry. #JodiArias
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hWelp, we are headed down the back stretch folks. One more afternoon of #JodiArias trial. Are you as tired as I am?
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Nurmi and Willmott just went back into chambers. Nurmi has taken off his suit jacket for now. Courtroom is empty. #JodiArias
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Back in the courtroom at the #JodiArias trial. Juan's brother has been extremely helpful with my knooter needs, hes great.---

Juan's brother???

I've seen him say this before, but what, pray tell, is a knooter?

And yes, Juan's brother was in court yesterday as well as today.
 
Nurmi, Nurmi, Nurmi what are you possibly thinking?

This jury has shown itself to be an attentive and skeptical group, with terrific recall. Either JA has insisted on this closing in all of her delusional splendor or you vastly underestimate people in general. This is not going to fly with them, and you are putting the finishing nails in JA's coffin.
 
LOVE IT! ON TIME AGAIN!!!

See...told y'all.

Judge Sherry ain't playing - she was serious about being done TODAY!!!
 
Anybody else getting a liegraine from Nurmi's closing? Someone tell me that it's 5:00 where they are so I can start happy hour.... BTW why is it only an hour?

...:seeya:it just turned 5o'clock here...so:toastred:...

...p.s. you've got liegraine? Dear me, that sounds serious, Maybe you should start off with a double shot.....:floorlaugh:
 
I wasn't able to follow the thread earlier and am just now able to. I have to say nurmi is ridiculous in his pointing out things jodi could have done. Nobody is saying this was the perfect murder, doesn't change the fact that she planned it.
 
Someone is nearby using a gas powered weed-eater or brush-hook clearing the riverbank across the way there. Better today than yesterday.
 
We're back ... sidebar...and happy JA chats with Mit Spec BFF
 
I have a nice bowl of mature cheddar and red onion chips. I'm going to munch on them real loud (hey I'm alone in my bedroom!) in the hopes that I'll barely be able to hear what Nurmi has to say.

Okay, alternatively I just can just press mute till he's done but I said I'd watch it and I will...
Where can I get some?
 
I have a nice bowl of mature cheddar and red onion chips. I'm going to munch on them real loud (hey I'm alone in my bedroom!) in the hopes that I'll barely be able to hear what Nurmi has to say.

Okay, alternatively I just can just press mute till he's done but I said I'd watch it and I will...

Crunching sounds much more fun.
 
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