Deceased/Not Found CO - Aarone Thompson, 4, Aurora, 2003 *A. Thompson guilty*

[chicoliving]

A judge in Arapahoe County has denied a records request by the family of missing Aarone Thompson who had sought copies of all statements made by seven children removed from their home in the midst of the police investigation.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4274986,00.html

 

[Rle7]

The family of Aaroné Thompson asked a judge Tuesday to award custody of their seven children and a newborn to relatives instead of the county while the investigation continues into whether the little girl who was recently reported missing by her father has been dead for months.

Arapahoe County Magistrate Jeffrey Holmes did not rule on the custody question, but quashed a subpoena filed by Aaroné's father, Aaron Thompson, seeking investigative records that could reveal what the children told police after being taken into protective custody by the county.

Holmes tossed out the subpoena because Thompson's attorney, Terraine Bailey, failed to pay some required fees.

The Aurora Police Department's legal adviser, Rob Werking, anticipates that Bailey will resubmit her request, and Werking said the city will fight it "tooth and nail" because the records are part of an ongoing homicide investigation.

Police believe Aaroné may have been dead for as long as 18 months. At least one of the children interviewed by investigators said he hadn't seen Aaroné in months, and the last known photo of her was stamped with a mid-2004 date.

Today would have marked Aaroné's 7th birthday.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4277199,00.html

This is a sad story. An arrest in this case would be a fitting birthday present IMO.

 

[mysteriew]

Thank goodness the juvenile domestic court is working in cooperation with the criminal investigation. Getting that record would have told Lowe and Thompson which kid to target. And allowing them to go to their g-parents would have put the kids under pressure to tell the story the way the way Lowe and Thompson wanted it told, despite what the truth is. I do wonder though, media keeps saying that at least one of the kids says that Aarone hasn't been in the home for a while. Several of the kids are older. I wonder just how many of the kids are saying this.
I don't understand, I thought in a criminal investigation that LE could insist that a potiential witness come to the station to answer questions. So why aren't they? At this point, both Lowe and Thompson are potiential witnesses since they don't really know which one killed Aarone.
I wonder what type of activity Lowe was in that she needed all of that false identity info. My guess would be that there are two investigations going on right now. One investigation into the disappearance of Aarone, and one investigation into what crimes Lowe and Thompson were involved in.

 

[strach304]

I wonder if any of this could have something to do with welfare fraud of some sort? The housing assistance has been brought up and the fake id's, the tip to LE was that the child was killed in the home with no how, who or why? Could there have been an incident where one child killed her and the father and girlfriend covered it up to avoid cps investigation and exposure of fraud and possibly the father kept collecting benefits for the child.

Maybe not exactly this way but imo LE shouldn't rule it out even though monetary amounts seem so meager since there have been so many cases I've read about where SS check scams were the motive and so on. Seems to be an awful lot of children in this household for people who obviously can't afford them and now another baby. One was reported to be the girlfriends brother, don't know if he lived there though.

At any rate this is so sad for this little girl and I do hope we come to know what happened to her.

 

[KatherineQ]

Chilling. The father filled out a Christmas wish list to a charity weeks before he reported Aarone missing - and Aarone is not listed as a child in that house.

I guess nobody ever accused that man of being smart.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/5441711/detail.html

 

[PrayersForMaura]

This is so sad and so twisted. The brothers and sisters must know so much and have had to live with this on their minds.

 

[Greywing]

This is so sad and so twisted. The brothers and sisters must know so much and have had to live with this on their minds.

Reports are that the younger kids have no memory of her. And widespread speculation that the children were told that she went back to live with her mother in Michigan.

 

[mysteriew]

I wonder if any of this could have something to do with welfare fraud of some sort? The housing assistance has been brought up and the fake id's, the tip to LE was that the child was killed in the home with no how, who or why? Could there have been an incident where one child killed her and the father and girlfriend covered it up to avoid cps investigation and exposure of fraud and possibly the father kept collecting benefits for the child.

Maybe not exactly this way but imo LE shouldn't rule it out even though monetary amounts seem so meager since there have been so many cases I've read about where SS check scams were the motive and so on. Seems to be an awful lot of children in this household for people who obviously can't afford them and now another baby. One was reported to be the girlfriends brother, don't know if he lived there though.

At any rate this is so sad for this little girl and I do hope we come to know what happened to her.

Housing fraud and even food stamp fraud are distinct possibilities.
Both would have been based on the number of people in the household, including the children. We know from media that they were recieving housing assistance. With this large a household food stamps is also a possibility.

You brought up the point about the brother. According to media he did live in the household. No one in media that I have seen has addressed how he came to be living in the household, or why. Hasn't Lowe's father been active in the "search" and spoken in the media? I am suprised that no one has asked him.

 

[fourboys]

Aaron Thompson, Shely Lowe Talk To 7NEWS

Aaron Thompson and Shely Lowe say they did not kill Aarone Thompson.

"No, I did not. I'm still looking for my daughter. My parents are still looking for daughter. My family is still looking for my daughter. If they got an investigation against me, OK. Why stop looking for my daughter?" said Thompson.

"No. And we were hoping everybody else was still looking for her, helping us." Lowe said.

Continued at link:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/health/5446721/detail.html

 

[mysteriew]

Fourboys, thanks for posting this.
I do have to say one thing, and this is not meant to be critical of anyone.
In most cases where a child is reported missing, the LE does do the searching, and if they feel the child is deceased, that is usually kept quiet, until some time has gone by. LE may have jumped the gun a bit, by calling off the searches so early. It opened them up to criticism. And they alienated her Thompson and Lowe to boot, so now they won't talk. And no matter what they think the status of the child is, even if dead- they still haven't found her body. Had they kept up the search and just quietly changed the type of search, things might be different.
I get frustrated sometimes when there is a missing child, and LE isn't talking. But I can't help but wonder if maybe this time, they may have talked too soon, and too much.

 

[Greywing]

Fourboys, thanks for posting this.
I do have to say one thing, and this is not meant to be critical of anyone.
In most cases where a child is reported missing, the LE does do the searching, and if they feel the child is deceased, that is usually kept quiet, until some time has gone by. LE may have jumped the gun a bit, by calling off the searches so early. It opened them up to criticism. And they alienated her Thompson and Lowe to boot, so now they won't talk. And no matter what they think the status of the child is, even if dead- they still haven't found her body. Had they kept up the search and just quietly changed the type of search, things might be different.
I get frustrated sometimes when there is a missing child, and LE isn't talking. But I can't help but wonder if maybe this time, they may have talked too soon, and too much.

Just my :twocents: as someone "close to the action". I get frustrated when there is a missing child too. I don't believe law enforcement jumped the gun. Lowe and Thompson were not talking to law enforcement - no matter what they try to claim now. Shelly Lowe (who apparently has gone by several different names) has quite a history involving fraud, stolen checks, passing her brother off as one of her children, etc ... a con artist. She, from the early information law enforcement did release, refused to speak with LE from day one and tried to block the children from speaking also. In this day and age, with social services trying to keep families together (even under the most outrageous circumstances) , you can bet they would not have taken the children out of the home AND seized a brand new baby without good reason. I'm sure when LE is able to talk about their investigation it will be pretty interesting.

As far as the Hope Outreach Center's Xmas list being "bogus" ... yeah riiiiiggghhhtttt. As if other people would have completed the information requested. And I suppose the sister from Catholic Charities was bogus too.

If you care to read about the "bogus" list, here is the story which appeared in the newspaper: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4280186,00.html

Just my opinion

 

[mysteriew]

Greywing, please do not misunderstand me. I am in no way attempting to criticize your community or your LE. I know that LE carefully considers each move they make and any possible consequences before they make the move.
However, no matter what they plan- there are always things that can go wrong. I am trying to learn from Aarone's case, as the knowlege can help me in understanding other cases.
I had not heard previously that Lowe refused to cooperate with LE before. Even LE has admitted that they talked with them early on. I also had not heard that Lowe tried to keep the kids from talking.
Could you fill me in on any other rumors about the case?

 

[Greywing]

Greywing, please do not misunderstand me. I am in no way attempting to criticize your community or your LE. I know that LE carefully considers each move they make and any possible consequences before they make the move.
However, no matter what they plan- there are always things that can go wrong. I am trying to learn from Aarone's case, as the knowlege can help me in understanding other cases.
I had not heard previously that Lowe refused to cooperate with LE before. Even LE has admitted that they talked with them early on. I also had not heard that Lowe tried to keep the kids from talking.
Could you fill me in on any other rumors about the case?

Mysteriew, I have never interpreted anything I read as criticism in anyway. This is case that is really not getting any coverage on the national media. I was always find it interesting as to which cases receive coverage and which ones don't.

There is alot of patience being displayed and I believe most people here are coming down on the side of law enforcement. Bits and pieces are coming out such as the visit to the Thompson-Lowe home by social services and Catholic Charities just a few days prior to Aarone being reported missing. The visits were just an annual visit to see how the family was doing and whether or not they still qualified for assistance. Thompson's mother was also coming for a visit - the first in a couple of years and speculation is that the visit may have been the reason for the police report. Aarone's absence would have been very difficult to explain. One thing I can say for sure is that Thompson and Lowe did not help in the search at all. Lowe may have had a reason for not being able to help with her pregnancy - but the dad? He was being watched like a hawk by LE and media alike and he made no attempt what so ever - not even a pretend showing. Talk radio has been pounding on the story. Peter Boyle's, who has been on for years and was instrumental (in my opinion) in asking questions about the Jon Benet Ramsey case, is taking this one on. His show is own live streaming radio from 5AM to 9AM mountain time. http://www.khow.com/main.html The sit also includes some taped interviews done on the case.

I will post more later ... and I'm trying to stay away from rumor

 

[mysteriew]

I will post more later ... and I'm trying to stay away from rumor

LOL, :chicken:

 

[strach304]

I seriously have to wonder about the info LE seems to be putting so much confidence in, from day 1 hearing that someone called in a tip stating the child was killed has never made sense to me in a logical way. LE stated they didn't know what prompted this person to call in the tip other than the media coverage of her missing but there's certainly laws against having that knowledge and not reporting it not to mention disgusting beyond belief. I do have a great deal of confidence in LE but with them discovering other criminal type activity possibly they are a little jaded, other reports say the dog picked up a scent and there was a woman at wendy's with a child fitting Aerone's description.

I have thought about the other children that are being questioned as well, so far only one report about one child stating they haven't seen her in a long time and the others seem to have no knowledge of her is how it's being reported. From my own experiences I do know that children are often afraid of what to say under these conditions especially if there was scamming going on in that household and the parents often said don't say this or that or you don't know, etc. In other words possibly coached in the past not to talk to authorities if questioned. Ex: When was the last time you saw Aerone? I don't know, long time ago. With more questioning the more vague the child may get as if it's been years and so forth. How is that gonna sound to investigators?

The child wasn't in school and from my own experience with the shot records, moving to another state etc. I believe they could be telling the truth but the school official won't admit that. I see a lot of fishy crap with this case and I think these people are covering something up but I'm not convinced about what that is yet. If I knew what LE knows about the tipster then I might be convinced but without that knowledge I can't be sure how reliable that info is and it's critical to this case.

 

[KatherineQ]

Strach - I agree with you in part. Children who come from homes where their parents are continuously ducking the system, using false identity, lying to authorities, scamming, etc., do get savvy real quick and just keep saying I don't know. I've certainly seen it, and the children almost appear bizarre in what they "don't know", until you realize they're just not going to tell you what you're asking.

On the other hand, Aarone should have been in school the day she went "missing". This isn't a case of lost shot records from an old school she attended, there should be a teacher and friends and a desk in a classroom with her name on it and papers in the house she did last week and a backpack with her papers and snack in the house. Nobody knew this girl, it seems, nobody. Other missing children always have some principal or teacher in the media stating how sweet the child was and the class misses him/her. No one misses her.

Maybe the person who just now reported that she was killed really didn't know, or it didn't "click" until they heard she was missing.

 

[KatherineQ]

This is a pretty interesting interview transcript, I believe the interview occurred yestereday.

I don't know. They sure sound like they might be telling the truth.

It's baffling. HOW HARD is it to determine whether that child was there in the last month before being reported missing? They seem like such total recluses, that no one outside the family would be able to help with this. In most households, you have people coming and going who have seen members of the family.

Also, the reporter didn't ask any of the obvious questions. Were the other kids registered for school? Why not Aarone? Where are her shoes? Where is her toothbrush? Are her hairs on the bathroom floor? Are her fingerprints on the toilet seat? Was there an instore camera at the Wendy's where a lookalike was reported?

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/5448639/detail.html

 

[Greywing]

This is a pretty interesting interview transcript, I believe the interview occurred yestereday.

I don't know. They sure sound like they might be telling the truth.

It's baffling. HOW HARD is it to determine whether that child was there in the last month before being reported missing? They seem like such total recluses, that no one outside the family would be able to help with this. In most households, you have people coming and going who have seen members of the family.

Also, the reporter didn't ask any of the obvious questions. Were the other kids registered for school? Why not Aarone? Where are her shoes? Where is her toothbrush? Are her hairs on the bathroom floor? Are her fingerprints on the toilet seat? Was there an instore camera at the Wendy's where a lookalike was reported?

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/5448639/detail.html

I can tell you for sure that the other school age children were all enrolled in school. The neighbors have all discussed seeing children get on and off the school bus. The neighbors interviewed have also stated that to see any of the children outside of the house was extrememly unusual.

In Colorado, if there are no immunization records that does not stop school registration and enrollment. All that is required from the parent(s) is a short completed form. Immunization/medical records can be presented later. Even if a parent chooses NOT to have their child immunized (ex.:for religious beliefs) that does not prevent the child from going to school. The fact that Aarone was not even presented for school registration bothers many people.

As far as fingerprints, hairs, etc. I'm sure that is something that LE has collected.

 

[mysteriew]

I believe I read somewhere that there was no mattress on the bed that they said was Aarone's. They said that the mattress was being used by one of the other children.

 

[fourboys]

Chief defends police belief that Aaroné was killed

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4285010,00.html

Attorney in missing girl case quits

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3273501