CO CO - Aurora, FBI seeks ID of items found in serial predator's vehicle, active late 70s - early 90s

But there’s 2 jackets. There’s a maroon one and a cream colored one with Magic Mountain Express. What are the chances one person is wearing one and also carrying along a second similar jacket in reverse colors? Does it not seem like a they perhaps belonged to TWO young women who went missing together? Maybe leaving work and hitchhiking home?
 
Can anyone tell what the graphic is that is attached to the "N" in the word mountain? I was thinking it could possibly be a pull rope (like in a ski area). Or is it supposed to be a hand with a magic wand? Something else? Imo.

It looks like a the side of a mountain. It is angled like a ski slope/mountain. On top of the N is a stylized blob of snow.
 
Someone on another site mentioned a band by the name of "Never Never" based out of Maryland. Theyve been around since the late 80s
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Someone on another site mentioned a band by the name of "Never Never" based out of Maryland. Theyve been around since the late 80s
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I don't have FB but someone with an account should reach out and ask if they recognize the t-shirt design
 
Can anyone tell what the graphic is that is attached to the "N" in the word mountain? I was thinking it could possibly be a pull rope (like in a ski area). Or is it supposed to be a hand with a magic wand? Something else? Imo.
On the red jacket, it looks like a hand with fingers wrapped around a horizontal rope. I don't see any fingers on the light-colored jacket; however, it could still be a hand holding onto a rope. I think it is a truck driver's hand pulling the rope to blow the air horn. I wonder if either of those Magic Mountain Express trucking companies used a logo like that.
 
Y’all have done some good work here! Sorry late to the party. And my questions are most directed to the FBI and Aurora, Colorado Police Department.

On the TMSI logo on the shirt…. a button up. Wish there were additional pictures of it. Can’t tell whether it would be long or short sleeve? As many note likely a trucking or freight logistics company.

The necklace….. any attempts to enlarge that image hampers (with my elder eyes) any useful information in it. And some of the pendants or trinkets on it might be quite helpful!

As to the truck, what year truck were the items pulled from? What make and type? Cab with ‘sleeper’ etc? This would be helpful to better align with the other items, i.e. the TMSI patch. And to consider long haul routes and type of materials moved, locations, destinations. And to date that with other items displayed.

I concur that the jacket logos appear to be a magic wand in hand with sparkles (maybe snow). Assuming as noted above probably from an amusement park, due to the stylized lettering. Initial thought was a trucking company of that name would use a less stylized lettering? (Yet it does span dates 1970s to mid 1990s IIUC.) Tried to search for old post cards of Magic Mountain Express. Found a few for sale, but they do not use a capitol letter MAGIC MOUNTAIN with Express. Are there any markings or other features on the jackets? Any makers marks that would better help narrow this down and date the items?

On the Never Never Beg for Mercy t-shirt, same questions as for the jacket. If a band as good suggestions above, is that a tour or song done by them? Any other markings on the shirt?

Sure wish the investigators would provide better pictures. And if they have the items in evidence, to take new better photographs - and publish them! As others noted, I could not find that Vicap Alert bulletin. And wonder if any DNA or other forensic evidence might exist on the items recovered? Are there any prospects for that happening? MOO
 
Another thing i want to point out, is the quality of these photos, they dont look like they were taken in the modern day, it seems to me that they may be from the 90s. MOO
I agree. I wonder if a cold case detective only has these photos but the physical evidence itself is lost or destroyed? Otherwise they could surely grab DNA from at least some items.
 
I agree. I wonder if a cold case detective only has these photos but the physical evidence itself is lost or destroyed? Otherwise they could surely grab DNA from at least some items.
Yes @Melt71 I also hope that something newer and fresher in terms of the supposed evidence could be shared…..

I also forget to mention in my post last evening, what size were the TMSI shirt and the jackets? Apparently men’s TMSI logo emblazoned shirt? Are the jackets also men’s? Or women’s? That might help determine if those are the alleged assailant or possible other victims? And how about additional details such as makers of the other clothes; sizes; when manufactured?

As others noted above, having two means perhaps one of two things: if the assailant’s items then perhaps worked there; if the victims then maybe someone picked up two young employees of Magic Mountain? MOO
 
The below pictured clothing/belongings were recovered during a search of a serial offender’s tractor trailer cab

this makes me think that LE found the items themselves, not pictures of them.

Unless this cab was left abandoned for decades, im thinking this person was caught back in the 90s and FBI took these pics during that time period.

we should probably be looking through older arrests
 
Patrick Goble came to mind. He turned 18 in Nov 74. He's been charged with murders that occured in 94 and 95. However Patrick only started driving truck in 1991.
 
According to AI Magic Mountain Express, Inc. was registered in Tennessee from 1987 to 1993 and operated as a trucking company during that period.

from
54 F3d 776 Crowder v. Magic Mountain Express | OpenJurist

United States Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit. May 10, 1995.

Based on Crowder's motion to dismiss, the district court dismissed the case against Magic Mountain without prejudice because this defendant is currently in bankruptcy proceedings.

319344 - Magic Mountain Express Inc The company is inactive. DOT = Department of Transportation

Let's say they operated until 1995. Is it correct to suggest we should look for missing persons from that period?
 
Another thing i want to point out, is the quality of these photos,

, im thinking this person was caught back in the 90s and FBI took these pics during that time period

I always wonder why they (and other LE) seem to post these kind of pics. Cameras were perfectly capable of taking clear, high resolution photos in the 90s (and earlier!).

ViCAP in particular is notorious for these kind of blurry, maybe if you squint you can make something out kind of pics, and I wonder if there’s not some deliberate strategy for doing so.
 
I scoured Discogs.com for every artist named "never" "never never" and "never say never" just in case. I'm willing to admit that I may have missed over one or two that could've been eligible since I got to a state where "never" stopped looking like a word, but I didn't find any group that fit the time frame that wasn't possibly ruled out by having an official logo available at the time that looked radically different. None of them had a release with a name like "Beg for Mercy." I thought I had a lead with a Dallas, TX artist named "Never Never" who appeared on an indie rock band comp from the early '90s but it turned out they were from an EDM sampler, and in my experience the electronic music compositions from back in the day included all sorts of one-off artist names that were usually just uncredited names of other artists doing some sort of project.

If "Never"/"Never Never" (Beg For Mercy) was a band shirt, it either predated the Baltimore band getting their 1993 CD and logo, or it was from a group so obscure that any releases they had never made it to any label.

I'm sorry that's not more useful, but I figured that if I tried, I might as well report back.
 
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