Found Deceased CO - BARRY ARRESTED AGAIN - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* *found in 2023* #117

[Megnut]

My question is, what was Suzanne’s height
vs
the cooler’s length
If she would fit into the cooler intact, maybe he ended up using a shorter capacity to desiccate/mummify her.

(Sorry for being so blunt, but I have a strong suspicion that his way of obtaining the antlers was far from ethical, either).

Plenty of space for a petite victim, sadly.

If her feet were mechanically removed, the autopsy would have noted that.

How they came not to be at Moffat, I can't guess.

JMO

 

[GOBliaison]

Do you guys remember when that YouTuber ran into Barry near a creek out of nowhere a few days after the murder, and BM asked him who he was and if he was recording? The guy said No, and of course he obviously was.

BM launched into what happened was LE had seen 'Mountain Lions' around the area and their property and believed Suzanne was killed by one. BM had his beloved sleeveless tank top on and was wet. What if he was up to some disposing at that time?

Just spitballing IMO

Might "#228, this thread" support your instinct(s)?
Trusting it may .

 

[Megnut]

Might "#228, this thread" support your instinct(s)?
Trusting it may .

Bringing it forward

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[Diddian]

Overblown by the overblower Iris.

Iirc they brought in a tracker dog from the penitentiary.

Dog rooted around, gave chase to nothing.

So much so, the handler didn't even write up a report which Iris seized on, calling it withholding discovery. The dog was sniffing for a scent and IMO found none.

Not even sure how that particular dog was trained. Any of them for that matter. Whether trained to track a particular scent (after sniffing a personal item) or track a human shedding stress pheromones.

Iris glommed onto an email iirc from the handler, then represented to the judge that the State was withholding a report. There was no report and again iirc he then wrote a report, like two sentences, which the State then supplied. Dog was a nonstarter.

Not the dog's fault. Suzanne was never there.

JMO

IE, managing to find that one piece of straw among stacks of needles.

 

[Diddian]

Plenty of space for a petite victim, sadly.

If her feet were mechanically removed, the autopsy would have noted that.

How they came not to be at Moffat, I can't guess.

JMO

Placed feet first into a barrel of chemically treated water and majority of chemicals concentrated at the bottom of the barrel dissolved those bones?

Alternatively, SM's body placed into a mine head first, with something holding onto her feet (a rope, chain, wire cable) as she was dropped down in and eventually the feet at the ankles disconnected from the suspended body? Maybe the disconnected feet were then disposed of differently - somewhere that resulted in BM being seen soaking wet by Tyson Draper because he feared they were not concealed enough? (Seems like more work than I'd assume BM capable of to then go back in and retrieve the majority of her bones for the subsequent re-disposal. More likely only feet bones would have been placed in Moffat shallow grave.)

 

[Megnut]

IE, managing to find that one piece of straw among stacks of needles.

Sadly it was effective enough. Utterly misrepresented and in no way exculpatory. Totally inculpatory, no scent for that dog to track. Nobody had been down that incline, save a poorly pitched bicycle.

Hey, what were BK's minor league stats again?

Score 1 for IE, flipping the script.

It won't work this time.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Iirc didn't Barry's phone travel in the direction of the bicycle's final resting spot at like 4:30am?

Was he just going for an early morning walk, a complete coincidence that her bike would be found there later?

What are the odds?

JMO

 

[Warwick7]

Lest anyone believe Iris Eytan has totally abandoned Morphew, she has been quoted in the Denver Post:

"Morphew's attorney in the first case, Iris Eytan, said she would support his new lawyers to 'sustain his rightful innocence.'

"I've handled thousands of cases, and I've never seen prosecutors mishandle a case so recklessly,' Eytan said Friday. 'This case was fumbled so terribly, three prosecutors were penalized. After Barry's case was rightfully dismissed, I dedicated the second half of my career to ensure what happened to Barry doesn't happen to another innocent person. This and this alone is the only reason I'm not representing Barry today.'"

I call bull.
She loves a challenge.
Maybe she is intimidated of the new prosecution.
BM doesn't have money...

 

[Skigh]

I call bull.
She loves a challenge.
Maybe she is intimidated of the new prosecution.
BM doesn't have money...

Iris does not care one iota for Barry. She knows she will not win against the new prosecution as she will not be able to keep finding infringements and be able to find fault with the prosecution 's paper work.
There is no way Iris would work Pro Bono for Barry or even reduce her fees.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Iirc didn't Barry's phone travel in the direction of the bicycle's final resting spot at like 4:30am?

Was he just going for an early morning walk, a complete coincidence that her bike would be found there later?

What are the odds?

JMO

BM himself said he turned left on his drive to Broomfield, because he saw an elk. That's the road and direction where the helmet was found. He admitted that to account for some evidence they told him about.

He didn't put much effort into the bike staging. He ditched the bike on the way to the highway entrance, and then turned left on that highway for about a mile to drop off the helmet. He probably thought it was clever to leave the helmet in that direction rather than the direction he was supposed to be taking.

 

[Charlot123]

I call bull.
She loves a challenge.
Maybe she is intimidated of the new prosecution.
BM doesn't have money...

Simple, I think.
Iris doesn’t live in a vacuum. She has to have decent relations with the local judges, prosecutors, etc. To remove one, maybe not too much liked, prosecutor, is one thing. If she continues to do it, it will backfire.

There is a line in the sand, and now everyone can see it. To temporarily pull a paying client out of jail brought Iris new clients. Her lawsuit filed on behalf of Barry for $15 against prosecutors and investigators, citing violation of his constitutional rights, was too much. Not even the money, I assume. It is hard to view BM as the victim. So this is what truggered more LE work, uncovering the body, BAM.

I think that this story is too unjust, and give or take, it evokes the same reaction in everyone. Here, the prosecutors and LE will be working overtime to bring it to justice.

ETA. I meant 15 mln USD. Thank you @Diddian for correcting me!

 

[Charlot123]

Now that we know she was moved, it's reasonable to ask how many times.

Many of us were like pitbulls over the beach site, tenacious over PP, that he likely pitched her into a mine in the mountain area behind PP.

Thing is, investigations don't unfold in real time. First, there's investigating but the suspect has the headstart. Once the public gets a hold of it, we're waaaaaay behind the timeline.

I think LE was looking for SM in places she'd already been moved from.

No random kidnapper is going to bother moving remains. Barry just can't stop telling on himself. Outdumbs himself at every turn.

LE has ways to track suspects but they're rarely in real time. There's data that needs to be collected and analyzed.

He's likely been paranoid he's being followed but IMO not hard for him to appear to be one place, while backdooring it to a car rental place, renting a car, traveling from anywhere back to Colorado to move her again. Before he was done 3x, 4x...

Her remains may have been in Moffat for three years.... but I think he had her in one more spot we never knew about, until he moved her to Moffat. Barely barried. Perhaps he thought that finding her body on a route out of Dodge, in a crime dumping ground, it would support his ridiculous abduction story and, decomposed, look like she'd been there all along.

Supposedly he followed true crime -- he most certainly didn't take notes -- but he forgot to study anthropology. So much he didn't know.

IMO at first he didn't want her found but later must have decided that, if he could now stage her remains, $15 million would line his filthy pockets nicely. False arrest if a bushy haired rando killed her after all.

Except.... no hair, little tissue, no bugs, no decomp, bleached bones, BAM, metabolized BAM.

And there's only one explanation for that.

Her body wasn't there the whole time, her body decomposed elsewhere.

A kidnapper isn't going to come back to town to do that.

But a man who thought he might be able to control the narrative and capitalize on it would. Because he's been doing that the whole time.

JMO

I assume there are forensic specialists that can define the exact conditions necessary for the body ending up in such a state. Is it mummification? Dessication? I don't know enough details. I suspect, no oxygen/no water/heat, but I might be wrong.

But from that one could deduce what he might have used and then, what contraption it was.

 

[Diddian]

Simple, I think.
Iris doesn’t live in a vacuum. She has to have decent relations with the local judges, prosecutors, etc. To remove one, maybe not too much liked, prosecutor, is one thing. If she continues to do it, it will backfire.

There is a line in the sand, and now everyone can see it. To temporarily pull a paying client out of jail brought Iris new clients. Her lawsuit filed on behalf of Barry for $15 against prosecutors and investigators, citing violation of his constitutional rights, was too much. Not even the money, I assume. It is hard to view BM as the victim. So this is what truggered more LE work, uncovering the body, BAM.

I think that this story is too unjust, and give or take, it evokes the same reaction in everyone. Here, the prosecutors and LE will be working overtime to bring it to justice.

I think you intended $15 million.

 

[Charlot123]

I think you intended $15 million.

Yes surely. Sorry it it was a mistake.

 

[Megnut]

Simple, I think.
Iris doesn’t live in a vacuum. She has to have decent relations with the local judges, prosecutors, etc. To remove one, maybe not too much liked, prosecutor, is one thing. If she continues to do it, it will backfire.

There is a line in the sand, and now everyone can see it. To temporarily pull a paying client out of jail brought Iris new clients. Her lawsuit filed on behalf of Barry for $15 against prosecutors and investigators, citing violation of his constitutional rights, was too much. Not even the money, I assume. It is hard to view BM as the victim. So this is what truggered more LE work, uncovering the body, BAM.

I think that this story is too unjust, and give or take, it evokes the same reaction in everyone. Here, the prosecutors and LE will be working overtime to bring it to justice.

ETA. I meant 15 mln USD. Thank you @Diddian for correcting me!

$15 is funnier... he couldn't win a $15 lawsuit either.

JMO

 

[GOBliaison]

Agreed.

At this point, they would likely need major therapeutic intervention akin to the deprogramming sessions that people who leave cults have in order to undo all the brainwashing techniques that have been used on them.

I can't imagine any bright, decent, well-adjusted man would ever willingly sign up for having Barry Morphew as a FIL. Total nightmare, IMHO.

Years back, mulling the very likely scenario that suiters were assuredly on the near-horizon for these young women, I came to the same Bridge Out Ahead.
How self-assured must one prove, amidst the marvelous tumult of courtship for example, to step forward, "...one more time, sharing all, to achieve the fullest possible intimacy with my beloved,..."
... perhaps only to fail again...It is worrisome. How many "one more times" may be attempted this side of forsakenness?

Unconvinced, I choose:

That the love shared by Macy and Mallory
of, for and from their mother
will bequeath joys in the years ahead unimaginable to them now!

P.S. God will bless them and theirs!
​

IMVCO, of course

 

[GOBliaison]

Bringing it forward

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Cheers @Megnut ! Someday maybe I'll learn.
Be toasting you with a 'Bermuda Swizzle' 1:15 EDST hence...

 

[MassGuy]

This is a bit of a reach for me, as I don't generally posit theories that aren't rock solid. I'm posting this for posterity though:

Barry Morphew had gotten away with murder. Charges were dropped, any future case was unlikely without a body, and he had a 15 million dollar lawsuit pending against law enforcement, and those who prosecuted him.

Here's where things get interesting. The grand jury indictment contains evidence that Suzanne's body was moved, as evidence at her gravesite was not consistent with what the various experts expected to see.So why would Barry move a body that had remained undiscovered for (likely) over two years, and put it in a place that greatly increased the likelihood of discovery?

Money. It's always been about money. From the cons he ran to obtain wealth (selling worthless businesses), to not wanting to part with assets as a result of divorce, to liquidating assets shortly after her disappearance. It was a motive for murder, and I believe the reason he wanted Suzanne found.

With a body, Barry would be able to collect on life insurance (no 7 year wait). We don't have any proof that Suzanne did have a policy, but I do believe one exists.

It could have given him access to her share of the estate.

It could have bolstered his lawsuit, which is why he apparently redressed her body in biking clothes.

It could have all but guaranteed his freedom forever, because he could "prove" that Suzanne was in fact kidnapped on a bike ride.

This was one hell of a risk, but I believe the evidence shows that's exactly what happened. The discovery of Suzanne's body during a search that was ostensibly unrelated, has always bothered me. Edna Quintana disappeared in May of 2023, and the search that uncovered Suzanne's remains was over 4 months later. Why was CBI there? Why was CBI there then?

I think a few different scenarios are plausible:

Someone helped Barry move Suzanne and they cooperated.

Someone helped Barry move Suzanne and they told someone else.

Some sort of investigation into Barry's movements led them there.

Barry himself called in a tip (I've seen this happen in a couple cases).

What this absolute moron didn't count on, was Suzanne's body containing a smoking gun. The very chemical the previous investigation was based on, one that Barry admitted to owning, recently using, and disposing of, was found in her bones.

BAM.

 

[MonteCarlo]

This is a bit of a reach for me, as I don't generally posit theories that aren't rock solid. I'm posting this for posterity though:

Barry Morphew had gotten away with murder. Charges were dropped, any future case was unlikely without a body, and he had a 15 million dollar lawsuit pending against law enforcement, and those who prosecuted him.

Here's where things get interesting. The grand jury indictment contains evidence that Suzanne's body was moved, as evidence at her gravesite was not consistent with what the various experts expected to see.So why would Barry move a body that had remained undiscovered for (likely) over two years, and put it in a place that greatly increased the likelihood of discovery?

Money. It's always been about money. From the cons he ran to obtain wealth (selling worthless businesses), to not wanting to part with assets as a result of divorce, to liquidating assets shortly after her disappearance. It was a motive for murder, and I believe the reason he wanted Suzanne found.

With a body, Barry would be able to collect on life insurance (no 7 year wait). We don't have any proof that Suzanne did have a policy, but I do believe one exists.

It could have given him access to her share of the estate.

It could have bolstered his lawsuit, which is why he apparently redressed her body in biking clothes.

It could have all but guaranteed his freedom forever, because he could "prove" that Suzanne was in fact kidnapped on a bike ride.

This was one hell of a risk, but I believe the evidence shows that's exactly what happened. The discovery of Suzanne's body during a search that was ostensibly unrelated, has always bothered me. Edna Quintana disappeared in May of 2023, and the search that uncovered Suzanne's remains was over 4 months later. Why was CBI there? Why was CBI there then?

I think a few different scenarios are plausible:

Someone helped Barry move Suzanne and they cooperated.

Someone helped Barry move Suzanne and they told someone else.

Some sort of investigation into Barry's movements led them there.

Barry himself called in a tip (I've seen this happen in a couple cases).

What this absolute moron didn't count on, was Suzanne's body containing a smoking gun. The very chemical the previous investigation was based on, one that Barry admitted to owning, recently using, and disposing of, was found in her bones.

BAM.

No one has accused BM of being smart but this really makes no sense to me either.

The only reason he would be stupid enough to move the body had to money. Like you say either Life insurance ( now as opposed to waiting 7 yrs ) or somehow going forward with the bogus $15M lawsuit ( throw biking clothes into the new grave to support the biking abduction theory )

Now the evidence proves the body was moved, the biking clothes were added to the site, and the body has BAM which is the worst possible scenario for BM. ( I know ranchers and veterinarians in the area use BAM per the BM defense team lol )

The thing that has me scratching my head is the 'significantly bleached' statement in the GJ indictment. This case gets crazier and crazier.

We ate off 1 plate, we ate of 2 plates, we split a steak we ate two steaks, I hand washed my plate, multiple showers relax me, I have not used BAM in colorado, I have used BAM in colorado to saw off horns, oh good lord

 

[Tortoise]

If it wasn't for money I believe it was to prove his innocence/the abduction theory, it had to be somewhere opposite of his route that day, and he couldn't risk they wouldn't get an ID on her, if say her jaw went missing, hence the port and Suzanne's clothes.

He didn't factor in they would be able to determine she had been moved. IMO