Found Deceased CO - BARRY ARRESTED AGAIN - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* *found in 2023* #117

[NotoriousMPZ]

Barry and his daughter probably had another place under her name.

I just don't see BM living in that trailer park with their cutesy themed trailers and possibly kooky nosy neighbors.. I envision "Lee Moore" in a more gritty, faceless trailer park, not wanting anything or anyone to draw attention to himself.

Well, he did live there.

If someone led them to that second site, it's reasonable to believe they also led them to the initial site. This is obviously a huge assumption, but it's not something I'm ruling out. There would almost certainly be signs there.

They found Suzanne's emails by accident. They were looking for someone else's body and found Suzanne.

 

[Cindizzi]

Starts in 45 minutes from now!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1938011592114774408

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

I’ve never been a fan of him having help with the murder itself. This was a deeply personal crime, and you can kind of game it out based on the evidence (timeline, truck activity, phone activity, etc).

This would also require him to contact someone, which there would almost certainly be evidence of. Most importantly, if he had help, he’d be able to establish proof of life.

He couldn’t do that working alone, which is why he’s in this position to begin with.

Agree here @MassGuy ….. and also with the earlier postulate you had made. It seems IMO that BM would only probably seek help from some other individual for one of two or possibly both reasons. 1) In the event he needed to move a vehicle or some other item and / or wanted to traverse in a vehicle not his own. 2) If he wanted someone moving his vehicle while he made use of another’s vehicle? Sort of a decoy perhaps. And not sure whether he would have taken the time to consider the pros or cons of another individual’s involvement and where that might lead. Pure speculation on my part.

I wonder if LE has been all over to see whether he might have had a burner phone or phones. MOO

 

[Magic8Ball]

I think because of the PH and the fall out afterwards. iIRC JG was transferred off the case because he wouldn’t toe the DAs line. I think it would give to much for the defence to attack. I think this trial will have a different focus. They don’t need all of the interviews between BM and the agents. They have a body, that has allegedly been moved, has BAM in the bone marrow and BM as the only person in that part of CO that has admitted to having said BAM in his possession just before Suzanne was killed. BM was the last known person to see Suzanne alive. The telematics and phone data will be useful too, but I do have a question about the telematics - and the turn right (or was it left?). How did the agents know that if the telematics were off until later in his journey?

I believe that this DA will keep the narrative focused on the above, bringing in evidence from the previous charge, will just give the defence more ammunition and risk confusing the jury.

BBM:
This is incorrect. JG was never removed from the case. He retired from the FBI.
Retired LEOs frequently testify in criminal trials.
The prosecution will absolutely call JG as a witness.

A large part of this case will involve showing the jury the prolific lies and conflicting stories that BM gave to LE over the course of the investigation. Barry made numerous incriminating statements to JG in their interviews.

Jury needs to understand what they're dealing with here in terms of the defendant's statements and behavior post-offense. JG has done a masterful job of outlining that for jurors in other cases, most notably, the Letecia Stauch case, also out of Colorado.

His testimony won't confuse the jury.
His testimony will help make it crystal clear to them exactly whodunnit.

*ETA: I believe you may be thinking of JC, who was an investigator for the CBI, vs. JG, who worked for the FBI.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

The telematics and phone data will be useful too, but I do have a question about the telematics - and the turn right (or was it left?). How did the agents know that if the telematics were off until later in his journey?

rsbm

BM volunteered that he turned left, they didn't appear to know it. It looks like he said that to account for the 14 extra miles on his odometer for the trip to Broomfield.

 

[MassGuy]

I think because of the PH and the fall out afterwards. iIRC JG was transferred off the case because he wouldn’t toe the DAs line. I think it would give to much for the defence to attack. I think this trial will have a different focus. They don’t need all of the interviews between BM and the agents. They have a body, that has allegedly been moved, has BAM in the bone marrow and BM as the only person in that part of CO that has admitted to having said BAM in his possession just before Suzanne was killed. BM was the last known person to see Suzanne alive. The telematics and phone data will be useful too, but I do have a question about the telematics - and the turn right (or was it left?). How did the agents know that if the telematics were off until later in his journey?

I believe that this DA will keep the narrative focused on the above, bringing in evidence from the previous charge, will just give the defence more ammunition and risk confusing the jury.

You're confusing Cahill who is CBI, with legendary FBI profiler Jonny Grusing. Not only was he not sidelined during the case, but he stayed on for about a year afterwards, working as a special investigator for Chaffee (no doubt this case).

I'm just totally lost as to why anyone would think gutting the case is a good idea, which is exactly what would happen without all of Barry's lies, the majority of which came during his interviews with Grusing and Harris.

The most important interview was the final one, where all the evidence was presented to Barry, and he addressed it point by point, digging his own grave.

Yes, you have BAM in her bones, telematics, and cell phone data.

But it is from those interviews we knew that Barry, owned, recently used, and admitting to throwing BAM away.

The telematics matter because Barry tells a story that doesn't jibe with that data. The same applies to the phone data.

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Am poring over the info right now on the coffee/caffeine notes in re: the autopsy and the location from Suzanne's home on Puma Path to Poncha Springs, then all the way down to Moffat via 285, which at one point turns into CO 17. It looks like 285 merges into CO 17 at the Great Sand Dunes National Park and Reserve. I speculate BM found "some spot" en route from his home and Poncha Springs south, taking basically the same roads that were taken where the body was ultimately found south of Moffat. So speculation, the point where the body had been located prior was along the route to Moffat, and he just took it further down south. There are very, very desolate old cemeteries near Villa Grove and Bonanza CO And what about dunes, what about a shallow grave in actual sand or at least sandy soil? What I've seen is that burial in sand can lead to mummification and "somewhat" delay skeletonization. Suzanne's body was not found for what, like three years? And it was fully skeletonized and the bones were significantly bleached. Mmm. I think a burial in sand is still possible, but it would be very shallow. And at first I doubted he could find a place in/near this Great Dunes National Park to consider, BUT it's thirty square miles of the highest and most massive dunes in North America. Wildlife includes black bears, mountain lions, badgers. Also of note: natural hot springs. They're down in that Moffat area, quite a few of them. And there are wild/primitive hot springs still in CO on public lands where you hike to them. They're off the commercial "grid," so to speak. Both the possibilities of the dunes and the springs woud promote bleaching. (And then there's that super important hot tub repair he was seeking.)

Thinking for a moment. If that BAM were still in Suzanne's system, would predators that might consume remains become impaired also? "Secondary poisoning." If so, he'd need some container to bury the remains in because that would draw attention. BUT there's also the other possibility of sprinkling bleach and/or lime over a shallow grave where the victim's remains were located. Doing this supposedly will deter predators.

I just read the indictment, BM evidently had some way of disabling the telematics. LE could tell because at certain points, the phone contradicted the telematics. Assuming there's nothing yielded for either of Suzanne's vehicles for this period, this phone/vehicle telematics contradiction only reveals imo that he had a way to disable them; we've got no idea LE's aware of all periods when he did disable them, and based on what they're saying in the indictment, I'd tend to assume he had some way of doing it. This is a cold dagger into the D's already flimsy case, jmo.

On the caffeine, with so many energy drinks on the market, I don't buy this idea that caffeine level confirms she drank morning coffee on Mother's Day. Yes, the cup was there, and it was strange that it was, but it's not necessarily from that morning. People who enjoy caffeine generally indulge in multiple sources of it throughout the day. There are few people that have "only" a cup of coffee. There are caffeinated beverages of all kinds. There are caffeinated chocolate liquers used in mixed drinks. Starbucks all over the place. A lot of people have coffee with dessert. There are energy drinks, there are energy bars and powders. Not putting much credence in the "morning cup of coffee." From the fact that all contact from her ceased the previous day-- and there were texts unread and unresponded to-- she was already dead by Mother's Day, and a lot of posters seem to already be on board with this.

Apologies for any repeated material or rehash. Just looked and I see @Boxer mentioned the dunes before, and @Seattle1, too, and I think some other people.


Agreed. It's gone through my mind, too. (Apologies on length of post)

Very astute observations @snooptroop88 ….. and quite intricate thoughts. That point about the BAM in the remains, and the apparent lack of predation on some portions of them IIRC? While I am an organic chemist I am not a forensic pathologist or medical examiner. And this may have already been suggested and I am way behind on the threads……. so apologies if so and I am not giving credit where due. (ETA…. I now see that @Diddian is cueing in on this in post #457 above.)

But I was wondering if perhaps any foraging animals might have sensed or been aware of the presence of BAM or its metabolites in the remains? And hence they either avoided them for that reason or sought something else? Of course it pains to think or even contemplate some of the possibilities here sadly. SMH. I just hope that investigators and the analysts are twenty steps ahead of us on this. And can build a solid and robust case. As I am sure they are doing. MOO

 

[Cindizzi]

You're confusing Cahill who is CBI, with legendary FBI profiler Jonny Grusing. Not only was he not sidelined during the case, but he stayed on for about a year afterwards, working as a special investigator for Chaffee (no doubt this case).

I'm just totally lost as to why anyone would think gutting the case is a good idea, which is exactly what would happen without all of Barry's lies, the majority of which came during his interviews with Grusing and Harris.

The most important interview was the final one, where all the evidence was presented to Barry, and he addressed it point by point, digging his own grave.

Yes, you have BAM in her bones, telematics, and cell phone data.

But it is from those interviews we knew that Barry, owned, recently used, and admitting to throwing BAM away.

The telematics matter because Barry tells a story that doesn't jibe with that data. The same applies to the phone data.

I just looked at the Legend Johnny Grusing’s LinkdIn account and learned that his daughter is a LEO in Golden Colorado!

The Grusing family thanks Golden Police Department and surrounding agencies for unbelievable support during these past few days. | Jonny Grusing

The Grusing family thanks Golden Police Department and surrounding agencies for unbelievable support during these past few days. Bethany is recovering and we are so grateful to have her with us. Our deep sadness, hearts and prayers are with Officer Evan Dunn's family during this awful time. I...

www.linkedin.com

Her partner was slain and she was injured just this past November 2024.

Golden Police Officer Evan Dunn killed by suspected DUI driver in Colorado

Golden Police Officer Evan Dunn was just 33 years old when he was killed on Wednesday.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[BUF]

BBM:
This is incorrect. JG was never removed from the case. He retired from the FBI.
Retired LEOs frequently testify in criminal trials.
The prosecution will absolutely call JG as a witness.

A large part of this case will involve showing the jury the prolific lies and conflicting stories that BM gave to LE over the course of the investigation. Barry made numerous incriminating statements to JG in their interviews.

Jury needs to understand what they're dealing with here in terms of the defendant's statements and behavior post-offense. JG has done a masterful job of outlining that for jurors in other cases, most notably, the Letecia Stauch case, also out of Colorado.

His testimony won't confuse the jury.
His testimony will help make it crystal clear to them exactly whodunnit.

*ETA: I believe you may be thinking of JC, who was an investigator for the CBI, vs. JG, who worked for the FBI.

I so agree. Grusing is one of a kind….not only a great interviewer for these horrid crimes, but a great witness at trial….ties it all together.

Another Colorado case he was integral in was the murder of Dylan Redwine by his father Mark.

 

[Megnut]

Not gonna lie, I love thinking about how much Barry will detest JG on the stand.

jmo

 

[MassGuy]

I so agree. Grusing is one of a kind….not only a great interviewer for these horrid crimes, but a great witness at trial….ties it all together.

Another Colorado case he was integral in was the murder of Dylan Redwine by his father Mark.

He's featured in "Very Scary People, The Real Hannibal" on MAX. It's about how he brought down serial killer Scott Kimball. It's excellent.

 

[MassGuy]

Not gonna lie, I love thinking about how much Barry will detest JG on the stand.

jmo

What did he say to him, "I thought we were friends?"

 

[NotoriousMPZ]

If LE had tracked BM vehicles that led to the discovery of the burial location/s is that admissible evidence in court?

The Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) announced on Wednesday that remains that were found during a search on Sept. 22, 2023, were positively identified as Suzanne Morphew. The identification was done by the El Paso County Coroner on Wednesday.
Morphew was reported missing on May 10, 2020, Mother’s Day.
The news release from the CBI adds investigators were searching in the area of Moffat in Saguache County for an investigation that wasn’t related to Morphew’s disappearance.

 

[Knox]

Typically it is illegal to base these types of business decisions on any arrest records as arrests do not necessary make a person guilty - charges can be dropped and presumption of innocence applies. With that said the only criminal record is the voter fraud so far for BM.

We can’t even ask that question on an employment application. FEHA Fair Employment and Housing Act protects against discrimination in California, sure Arizona has something similar.

 

[MassGuy]

The Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) announced on Wednesday that remains that were found during a search on Sept. 22, 2023, were positively identified as Suzanne Morphew. The identification was done by the El Paso County Coroner on Wednesday.
Morphew was reported missing on May 10, 2020, Mother’s Day.
The news release from the CBI adds investigators were searching in the area of Moffat in Saguache County for an investigation that wasn’t related to Morphew’s disappearance.

Yes, but they may very well have reason to be less than forthcoming about that.

Someone could potentially have called in a tip, and not identified who the victim was.

 

[NotoriousMPZ]

Bbm.
Say what ???????

Agreed with looking at both --or all-- sides of a case, but not this one.
I highly doubt anyone 'stole' it from Barry to use on Suzanne.
I.e., unlikely.


I believe LE have Barry 'dead to rights', as they say.
From having followed other cases here at WS, sometimes there's a shocker, but in this case it doesn't sound as if Suzanne had any stalkers or enemies.
Imo.

He did not report the BAM stolen. If he knew someone wanted to hurt him, he would have told LE. Additionally, you'd have to be a real psycho to kill someone's wife just to hurt him. That is lunacy

 

[Knox]

Starts in 45 minutes from now!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1938011592114774408

Hope Lauren spills some tea, but probably not until/unless he’s convicted this time. Remember when BM’s sister confronted her in the courtroom? Trying to remember specifically what she said - blamed Lauren for something?

 

[Cindizzi]

What did he say to him, "I thought we were friends?"

Yep And “ I trusted you “
Also, “ Could I get immunity “ long before the arrest.
Lol

 

[NotoriousMPZ]

Dispersed bones, in direct Colorado sunlight -- no surprise if they're sunbleached. But I f even one bleached bone was still barried, the sun didn't do it; Barry did.

I believe those bones were bleached chemically. There's a sad theme here. Employing harsh chemicals to accelerate death then decomp. Not years, not months.

Whatever it was, it didn't destroy the very marrow of once vibrant, one very much alive Suzanne.

I can't wait for Barry to revisit the scenes of his life from May 9, 2020, as they flash before his eyes in the form and manner of photographs and testimony. It'll be like old home week for him, only he won't be running the show anymore. BarryM v. The Truth.

The truth will prevail.

JMO

Remember someone on his crew said his hotel room STANK of bleach!!??

 

[Magic8Ball]

What did he say to him, "I thought we were friends?"

I bet Jonny was saying, "B**ch, that's what you were supposed to think," to himself as he smiled inside.