CO CO - Boulder, BlkMale, 25-40 found in rock formation, UP516, Oct'93

[Moonwalker9]

CASE NUMBER - 850UMCO
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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Date of Discovery: October 10, 1993
Location of Discovery: Chautauqua Park, Boulder, Boulder County, Colorado
Estimated Date of Death: 1 day prior
State of Remains: Recognizable face
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 25 - 40 years old
Race: Black
Gender: Male
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 160-180 pounds
Hair Color: Black, short flat-top style
Eye Color: Brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: He wore a very light beard and had mustache stubble. A receding hairline and high forehead. A well-healed scar (17mm) through his left eyebrow

Identifiers
Dentals: Available. Diastema (1mm space) between the upper incisors. No restorations
Fingerprints: Available
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: White nylon windbreaker with blue trim nylon windbreaker (size M), black sweatshirt with a multi-colored horse head design on the front and the sleeves cut off at the neckline, black athletic shorts (size M), white sweatpants (size M 32-34), white long underwear (size M), one black sock, and "Rocky" hiking boots
Jewelry: A digital "Casio" watch
Additional Personal Items: Prescription eyeglasses with red frames. A gym bag with miscellaneous articles of clothing and personal hygiene items was found nearby

Circumstances of Discovery
Hikers located the victim lying on a talus pile at the bottom of a rock formation in Chautauqua Park in west Boulder. Aside from a few contusions and abrasions on his lower legs, there was no evidence of injury. Toxicology tests proved negative. He appeared to be transient.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Boulder County Sheriff's Office
Agency Phone Number: 303-441-3600
Agency Case Number: S93-17183

Agency Name: Boulder County Coroner's Office
Agency Contact Person: Emma Hall
Agency Phone Number: 303-441-3535
Agency Case Number: 1445-93-A

NCIC Case Number: U-683218169
NamUs Case Number: 516

Information Source(s)
NamUs

 

[lindamichelle1]

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...tors-hoping-to-identify-man-in-1993-cold-case

BOULDER, Colo. – New technology is giving Boulder County investigators hope that they can solve a 25-year-old cold case by putting a name to a face and bringing closure for a man known since 1993 only as John Doe.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...tors-hoping-to-identify-man-in-1993-cold-case

BOULDER, Colo. – New technology is giving Boulder County investigators hope that they can solve a 25-year-old cold case by putting a name to a face and bringing closure for a man known since 1993 only as John Doe.

Are these two different cases?

Original post: Post mortem photo shows a man with short hair who appears to be / was deemed to be a black man. Date found was given as October 10, 1993.

Linked article just above:
Shows a sketch of a man with long hair and testing shows European ancestry. Date found given as November 11, 1993.

 

[lindamichelle1]

Oh damn, sorry it was probably my sleep deprived eyes not reading the article properly. 2 John Does so close together.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

sorry it was probably my sleep deprived eyes not reading the article properly. 2 John Does so close together.

No problem, there were 2 found a month apart with similar circumstances.
John Doe found in October '93 (NamUs UP516) -
"...lying on a talus pile at the bottom of a rock formation in Chautauqua Park in west Boulder. Aside from a few contusions and abrasions on his lower legs, there was no evidence of injury. Toxicology tests proved negative."
(CASE NUMBER - 850UMCO)

John Doe found in November '93 (NamUs UP517)-
"...near Gregory Canyon in Boulder... a man's body inside some shrubbery...causes of death remains undetermined...There’s no outward trauma. There were no findings in his toxicology testing..." (https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...tors-hoping-to-identify-man-in-1993-cold-case)

Easy to confuse the cases.

And I just found the thread for the man (UP517) from the article you posted:
CO - CO - White male, 25-45,long blond/light brown hair, 5'3''-5'8, ''Gregory Canyon,11 Nov. 1993

 

[imstilla.grandma]

John Doe​

Case Details​

Case Type: Unidentified
Height: 5' 7"
Case Status: OPEN
Weight: 160 lbs
Aliases:
Identifying Marks: Scar left eyebrow
Incident Date: 10/10/1993
Occupation:
Agency: Boulder County Sheriff's Office
City: Boulder
Date of Birth: Unknown
County: Boulder
Date of Death: 10/10/1993
Agency Case #: S9317183
Age: Unknown
Judicial District: 20th Judicial District
Gender: Male
Year Solved:
Race: African American
NamUs Case #: UP516
Eyes: Brown
NCMEC Case #: Unknown
Hair: Black

About this Case:​

The victim was located by hikers lying on a talus pile at the bottom of a rock formation in the Boulder Mountain Parks, southwest of the City of Boulder on October 10, 1993. He was found wearing black sweat shorts (size m), white sweatpants (m 32-34), white long underwear (m), white with blue trim windbreaker (m), sleeveless black sweatshirt (size XL), 1 black sock, "Rocky" hiking boots, and prescription eyeglasses with a red frame. Aside from a few contusions/abrasions on his lower legs, there was no evidence of injury, and toxicology tests proved negative. A gym bag with miscellaneous articles of clothing and personal hygiene items was found nearby. Subject appeared to be transient. *Height and weight are estimates. Anyone with information regarding this case is asked to please contact the Boulder County Sheriff's Office.

Colorado Cold Case Files - Case Detail: John Doe

 

[ipa]

Stumbled upon this case as it shows an update yesterday, although I am unsure of what the update was.

No comparisons

 

[heartanium]

1 Exclusion

Victor Shin (MP66362)

 

[heartanium]

The Boulder County 2020 annual coroner report has a bit more detail (pg 59)

 

[lightofmine99]

Why would Victor Shin have been compared to this John Doe?

Being found at the bottom of a rock formation would lead me to believe he fell and broke his neck (or something similar) but apparently this was not the case. I wonder what killed him.

 

[Beccalicious]

Bumping

 

[beavt]

MP51107 Livingstone Kiniaru Njoroge was last heard from on 12/30/1989. He had come from the East Central African state of Kenya in 1987 to study at Hesston College in Kansas. He was 32 years old with a height of 5’8” and weight of 176lbs. His race/ethnicity is Black/African/Asian
Forensic dentistry suggests that this UID might have been a recent immigrant from North Africa.
Not only do age/height/weight/race/ethnicity align, they happen to look compellingly similar.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[ChatteringBirds]

MP51107 Livingstone Kiniaru Njoroge was last heard from on 12/30/1989.

Do you feel comfortable submitting this?

 

[beavt]

Do you feel comfortable submitting this?

Yes, submitted to Doe Network today.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Yes, submitted to Doe Network today.

Thanks for submitting, @beavt.

 

[Aurora90]

is it the same person in both pictures? They look like two different people, is it just me?

 

[beavt]

is it the same person in both pictures? They look like two different people, is it just me?

Same person. I’m guessing the the pic with black tank top was taken first (when found) and the second pic with hospital gown was taken later (MEO, perhaps)