CO CO - Christopher Abeyta, 7 mos, Colorado Springs, 15 July 1986

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[Harmony 2]

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[JerseyGirl]

Christopher Abeyta was just seven months old when he vanished from his crib at the foot of his parents' bed in Colorado Springs. Though more than 30 years have passed, the Abeyta family has actively searched for Christopher ever since.

Before her death of cancer in 2017, Christopher's mother, Bernice, traveled across the county chasing down tips about his whereabouts.

Missing children: 8 Colorado kids who vanished without a trace

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Have you seen this child? CHRISTOPHER ABEYTA
Christopher Abeyta

Age Progressed

 

[scriabina]

This is just a heartbreaking case. I sincerely hope this man is alive today. What do other websleuthers think the chances are he was kidnapped and raised by someone else versus murdered?

 

[Roselvr]

This is just a heartbreaking case. I sincerely hope this man is alive today. What do other websleuthers think the chances are he was kidnapped and raised by someone else versus murdered?

50/50. He most likely was put for adoption or put with a couple that couldn't have kids. I'll be shocked of she killed him

 

[California Sunset]

This has always felt like a non-family abduction to me. If Christopher was abducted for adoption purposes, it could have been a friend of the family or an acquaintance who would have had access to the house and seen his room.

There was a case a few years ago where a house was set on fire and an infant girl, Delimar Vega, was presumed dead, but it turned out a woman who had visited her house before took her and set the fire to cover her tracks. Six years later her mother saw her at a birthday party and realized this was her daughter (the body was never found) and the woman had stolen her. It's an amazing story.

I hope one day Christopher will recognize his face and decide to come forward. I wonder how thorougly acquaintances/friends/etc were investigated at the time of the kidnapping.

I know of that story. It was a bizarre kidnapping, yes? Delimar Vera. But to see the child and recognize her six years later, I thought that was amazing. I remember reading about this. Was the child still living in the same area as she was abducted from? I don't remember that.

 

[California Sunset]

I'm confused as to where you got this information about the family's door being unlocked and this being out of character for them.

What I read on the Charley Project & the Doe Network said that the basement window was left open. I don't know whether this was unusual or not. They may not have used their basement often, so the window could have been open for days.

I don't know first-hand how often a garage door opener is used, but it seems like if it was missing, you would notice it pretty quickly. Is it possible they had two garage door openers and that's why they didn't notice? It could have just gotten lost and they didn't notice it was gone till after Christopher was kidnapped. I don't know for sure that it's connected, but the basement window is definitely suspicious.

I don't know-- it is puzzling. I think the police should question everyone who was in that house since Christopher was born, period.

I watched videos, and read articles about this, enough to remember that they said the door was unlocked, at least earlier in the night, so the older children could get in. Who could suspect someone would come in the middle of the night (though they did), go in the parents' bedroom and sneak out with the baby? Seriously. Most people wouldn't believe it a possibility, let alone a probability.

 

[California Sunset]

50/50. He most likely was put for adoption or put with a couple that couldn't have kids. I'll be shocked of she killed him

EB was mentally unstable. IF she did this, you say you would be 'shocked' if she killed him? I wouldn't be. She believed the child stood between her and the child's father. Christopher is the child of her male friend's wife. The mother angle is where I can see the woman harming him. She stabbed her own child in utero. The woman is not mentally well. IF she took Christopher.
Personally, I hope he's alive. I hope she went for the money, was satisfied to 'deprive' the family of the child. This search should have been global way back when. I wonder if they checked to see if she or someone she knew left the country at all?

 

[California Sunset]

Have you seen this child? CHRISTOPHER ABEYTA
Christopher Abeyta

Age Progressed

Just take a look at those big blue eyes and try to tell me you can't like and want to hug this baby.

 

[California Sunset]

The suspect, EB was contacted by local media to get her side of the story and she never returned their calls. She has only been interviewed at her home twice! She lives in Castle Rock Colorado with her adult son and his teenage daughter. She is single and was only married once in the late 60's and divorced after a couple of years. Her ex-husband was interviewed by my Mom and he said he felt she was "capable" of kidnapping Christopher. He told my Mom that when she was pregnant with their son she claimed that a knife accidentally slipped off the counter into her pregnant stomach injuring her unborn child. He said he saw her with scissors one day cutting up family photos into little pieces and putting them in the trash. Her ex-husband passed away a couple of years ago. He was a good source of information. When my Mom tracked him down and interviewed him she gave this information to LE but they still didn't take investigative steps toward our suspect.

This sounds so much like the Sabrina Aisenberg case it's confounding. The big difference it, this case has and has had, not just a viable suspect, but someone that could be considered the primary suspect. Babies are not taken from their houses, say the police. Uh, what about Charles Lindberg's son (1932)? I don't think he was the first and he certainly wasn't the last. I'd like to know where in the ground these cops bury their heads.

 

[California Sunset]

I had the same thought Lera213. If I were some crazy stalker and I did something like this to get back at my lover, I feel like I would want to leave something behind. Just enough for him to know it was me but not enough to be able to prove it.

Of course, I'm not some crazy stalker so who knows? Maybe I've watched one to many crime shows.

If you've watched too many crime shows, I've read too many books and between us we have the same ideas. I see your point to your comments. I disagree with the crime shows limit, they give you insight and information beyond your normal behavior. That's how you/we learn. Keep up your great work. Inspiration is coming.

 

[California Sunset]

My brother was taken between 12:30 and 6 a.m. We went to bed at 12:30 and woke up at 6 a.m. EB attempted to contact my father that night up until midnight. My Dad had been staying in Pueblo 40 miles away with my brother. My brother took the calls. Emma also lived in Pueblo, so if the calls were made from her home it would have taken her approximately 40 min to get to our house. My Dads car was parked in front of the house. The current detectives working the case have acknowledged the investigation was flawed. Alibi? EB is considered a suspect, if she had an alibi LE would have checked her off.

I don't understand LE hesitation to check into EB and her whereabouts. It seems, even that late at night, if they'd got on this soon enough, someone saw that person's car. Whether a gas station, a pedestrian, someone on a porch, in another vehicle, someone had to see something, but THEN was when to ask, not after years.

 

[California Sunset]

Where ever this woman lived during Christoper being taken, I would search that area very well. I wonder if she placed Baby Christopher some place that was special to Christopher's father and her when they were having an affair.[/QUOTE

Do you think she might have left Christopher somewhere where the father could have found him if he had looked back then?

 

[California Sunset]

I'm very impressed that Colorado Springs PD destroyed 11,395 pieces of evidence, including evidence in Christophers case.

I can't access the source of your information. Impressed is not the word I would use. I think disenchanted or frustrated fits better. How could they toss out all that evidence? Especially in open cases? What were they thinking?

 

[California Sunset]

FOX21News.com

I thought that this was really interesting:

"The CSPD has given the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children permission to take a look at Christopher's case.

"We're more than willing to have more eyeballs on it and have more people looking at it to see if there's anything that we can do to learn what happened to Christopher," Noblitt said.

Gil said he is thrilled with this latest development.

"These are the experts, the best that we got. These are the best guns there are, and I am so happy about that," he said.

The Abeytas said they are hopeful that the team of experts will bring them one step closer to closure."

Is the NCMEC still investigating? Has the family heard anything from them? I won't even comment on the loss of thousands of pieces of evidence. That's just ludicrous.

"These are the experts, the best that we got. These are the best guns there are, and I am so happy about that," he said.

I believe this is BS. Give it to NSA and see what they come up with. THOSE are the experts. What did they come up with? Anything new? Outside of the intelligence field, WEBSLEUTHS is what I would consider the best.

 

[California Sunset]

FOX21News.com

I thought that this was really interesting:

"The CSPD has given the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children permission to take a look at Christopher's case.

"We're more than willing to have more eyeballs on it and have more people looking at it to see if there's anything that we can do to learn what happened to Christopher," Noblitt said.

Gil said he is thrilled with this latest development.

"These are the experts, the best that we got. These are the best guns there are, and I am so happy about that," he said.

The Abeytas said they are hopeful that the team of experts will bring them one step closer to closure."

Is the NCMEC still investigating? Has the family heard anything from them? I won't even comment on the loss of thousands of pieces of evidence. That's just ludicrous.

Ludicrous is another excellent word. What did they do with the evidence? Out of curiosity, do you know if any of that evidence was 'rape kits'?

 

[California Sunset]

I agree completely with you. He needs to be spoken to. I have reached out to his now wife through Facebook and she has not returned my calls. He lives in Hutchinson, Kansas. We have spoken to acquaintances of his and they have been helpful in providing information. I have to wonder if the reason LE never took EB seriously as a suspect was because this Sheriff called them. I won't ever understand why they didn't investigate her early on. EB and him were very close. EB comes across normal (if there is a normal), but once you talk to her past lovers she was psycho when they tried to end their relationships with her.

Truly insane people can come across as 'perfectly normal'. I read a book ages ago, when I was still a teenager, I think. The detective in the case worked on the Boston Strangler case prior to this. The woman lived with her husband and infant daughter on the first floor, the mother-in-law, who was mentally ill, lived on the second floor. The baby's mom didn't like leaving the baby alone with her mother-in-law. The murder was vicious and the scene beyond appalling. A sledge hammer was used, somewhere off the back porch. A young man happened on the murder scene, and he 'blacked out' or 'blocked out' what happened between the time he went in the door to when he was leaving. The crime scene, except where the body was located, was meticulously cleaned.
Some wanted to blame the young man, someone else looked more closely at the 'details' and suggested the mother-in-law did it.
I've been looking for this book for a long time, my other copy disappeared long ago. The case and its details were amazing.
The baby's diaper was dry at 4:00pm even though the murder occurred prior to or just at lunchtime. The mother-in-law denied hearing anything out of the ordinary, and said she was upstairs all the time. The lady was mentally ill.
She certainly gave the appearance of being perfectly sane at the time of the murder. Yes, I believe the mother-in-law did it. (But the book was written, I believe, to convince you the mother-in-law did it.) The mother-in-law was later confined to a mental hospital.She later said some things that indicated her guilt, but I don't think she was ever tried. Just one example of how really insane people have the ability of people with high IQs without necessarily having the high IQ. Deviousness vs. Intelligence. Which wins?

 

[California Sunset]

Does EB have any close frineds? Is it possible that she may have told someone something long ago?

There is a paternity record in the Pueblo Courthouse for EB's only son. EB was married for a short time and got divorced. I was surprised that the ex-husband was questioning paternity of his son? EB had the affair with this Sheriff in the time frame that the son would have been conceived. The paternity record could have had something to do with ensuring that her ex-husband paid child support, if he questioned the paternity of his son. Or it could confirm if the Sheriff is the son's father. Through investigating we know EB and the Sheriff were close friends. It really makes me wonder if the initial Detectives working the case didn't take EB as a serious suspect because the Sheriff made a call to them. My family will never understand why they didn't investigate her initially as a suspect. But I would like to get a copy of that paternity record.

The ex-sheriff lives in Hutchinson, Kansas.

(I've been asked before, could EB's son Christopher? No, he is in his early 40's.)

Has EB's son had anything to say on the subject? Would he not have been around 10 years old when Christopher disappeared?

 

[California Sunset]

We have asked the CSPD for a cold case review for years and finally they agreed to have the National Center for Missing Children review. But it was my Mom who gathered all the investigative information on EB. And it was a lot of hard work. I couldn't believe when I went to the Pueblo Court house just under two years ago and the Court Record, State of Colorado vs. EB had never been accessed. They had to pull it out of archives. It showed she had stalked, harrassed, and entered another families home whom she was having an affair with a few years before she met my Dad. I also pulled all of her police reports from Pueblo, mostly her reporting a burglary or her being involved in one. Of course we gave it all to LE.

I have contacted Nancy Grace through email several times but to no avail. I also posted Christopher's story on the find 50 people in 50 days. Acutally posted it up there several times and didn't get a response.

Doesn't anyone else find it odd that they refuse to properly investigate this case? From the disappearance, to EB, to her brothers, to the location of Christopher. I think there is something going on in the background here.