CO Father of missing baby 25 years ago reaches out to parents of baby Lisa

[MyBelle]

If one member of your family is already missing wouldn't you be leery of letting a stranger into your house?

I certainly would be.

JMO

 

[marge_rita]

If one member of your family is already missing wouldn't you be leery of letting a stranger into your house?

Not if he was an ex-cop who went through the same thing.

 

[luckyme]

If one member of your family is already missing wouldn't you be leery of letting a stranger into your house?

I would talk to everyone! I would want to know if they saw my baby or had a crediable tip!!! moo!!!

 

[luckyme]

Oh and i forgot to add that im waiting for my arrest and the police are trying to pin it on me. Per her first spokes person. moo!

 

[frankie069]

Originally Posted by frankie069 View Post
I am hoping that this gets bumped up because I assume while i was out all day today that nothing came of this, and the family refused to meet with him. How sad for them, how sad for Gil ( I believe his name is) and how sad mostly for Baby Lisa because I really feel that this man would and and could have helped in some way. Well, God Bless this man for coming all the way to MO to help. There is a special place for people like him. If the family isnt going to thank him I will.

I truly don't mean to be disrespectful...but My Goodness! There's no way to know if the family thanked him or not. I doubt that they would mean to hurt his feelings for a sincere offer of help.

There may be a valid reason for declining his offer. No one on the outside of this case really has any idea about what's going on.

Thats why I said IF... I thank him for taking part in this with the hurt he is still feeling and you know what I am probably right in assuming the family didnt thank him and if they did it wasnt heartfelt.

 

[gitana1]

Before criticizing the parents (or criticizing them further, I should say), those so inclined should read denalves's excellent post @ #53, this thread, particularly its last paragraph.

Yes, since I read about Christopher's case and what Denalves' family has gone through, I got back on the fence. A lot of things bother me about the case and the family, but I am beginning to be more aware of media spin and Christopher's case taught me a lesson - not everything is always as it seems.

Denalves states that her dad tried to reach them prior to going out there, but was unable to, so he went in person. The parents did not answer the door. It was other family members who may not have heard of his case or him.

If I learn that the parents get informed about Mr. Abeyta, and what he wants to help them with, and they still turn him away, then I'm going to start slipping off the fence again.

 

[EllaMae]

Well....I'd have to respectfully disagree again. You can't begin to know what is heartfelt from Baby Lisa's family, and what is not.

I understand why they would be leery of accepting help from a strange man knocking on their door. The family may have had no idea who he is. They may prefer to have him verified first.

I had never heard of Gil, or what happened to his baby until I read the threads here. There's no reason to assume the Jeremy and Debbie had either. Debbie may not even have been born yet.

 

[Jacie Estes]

Not if he was an ex-cop who went through the same thing.

How would they know that?

 

[marge_rita]

Well....I'd have to respectfully disagree again. You can't begin to know what is heartfelt from Baby Lisa's family, and what is not.
I understand why they would be leery of accepting help from a strange man knocking on their door. The family may have had no idea who he is. They may prefer to have him verified first.

I had never heard of Gil, or what happened to his baby until I read the threads here. There's no reason to assume the Jeremy and Debbie had either. Debbie may not even have been born yet.

bbm
And neither can you. When one keeps writing as if they know how this couple acts and reacts, it's wrong if you don't personally know them.

But, knowing for a fact that D&J turned away an ex-cop whose child disappeared---one can say that maybe that wasn't such a good idea--since their baby's been missing 11 days.

imo


imo

 

[marge_rita]

How would they know that?

I'm guessing an Ex cop knows how to handle this type thing.


imo

 

[raeann]

bbm
And neither can you. When one keeps writing as if they know how this couple acts and reacts, it's wrong if you don't personally know them.

But, knowing for a fact that D&J turned away an ex-cop whose child disappeared---one can say that maybe that wasn't such a good idea--since their baby's been missing 11 days.

imo


imo

The poster here who is the son/daughter of this man said that he is NOT an ex-cop....he once served briefly on some type of a police commission....not nearly the same thing.

 

[frankie069]

I thought his daughter said today that he was going to go back and try again today to speak with them, considering we havent heard anything more, I am to assume that they didnt take him up on his offer, I am sure we would have heard something if they did. If they would have taken the time to hear him out when he contacted them first and when he came to them secondly, they would have known who he was if they didnt already by the time he went there. I myself was giving a thank you to Mr. Abeyta and his family for taking a part in this case after all that has happened to them. I want to make sure that he knows there are people out here that appreciate what he is doing. As I said, in case DB and LI didnt tell him that. Do I know if they did, no, I cannot state that as fact, but I have a gut feeling they didnt.

 

[Lera213]

So Mr A attempted to contact the parents, then he goes out in person to make contact, door shut on him, news reporter highlights the case and why he was there. You cannot tell me that this Lisa's family did not see that news report. So why haven't they extended themselves to MR A yet? If Lisa's family was asked not to speak to anyone, they could at least explain it to Mr. A?

To me, this is more of the same action of a guilty person. They don't care where Lisa is but rather protecting the parents at all cost.

Mr. A, Mr Klass would be the first people I would be calling for help. My gosh, I would have drug Mr. A into my house faster then you know what. This family didn't!

What hurts me the most his Mr. A seems to have more concern about Lisa then Lisa's own family. Mr. A reached out, believing their story of abduction because things looked similar to his child's case however; In Christopher's case there was evidence of a stalker, hang up calls. With Baby Lisa none of yet, even the parents stated they have no idea, even a video of her shopping showed nobody stalking her.

Last night when I went to bed I was so worried for Mr. A, I didn't want him to get involved only to later learn the parents are guilty. That would just be too much and cruel to Mr. A.

 

[In da Middle]

bbm
And neither can you. When one keeps writing as if they know how this couple acts and reacts, it's wrong if you don't personally know them.

But, knowing for a fact that D&J turned away an ex-cop whose child disappeared---one can say that maybe that wasn't such a good idea--since their baby's been missing 11 days.

imo


imo

But it very well be that they felt that they just turned away another <mod snip> that has come out of the woodwork. We just don't know.

 

[frankie069]

But it very well be that they felt that they just turned away another kook that has come out of the woodwork. We just don't know.

No I am pretty sure they knew he wasnt a ,mod snip>. This is if they are the normal person who asks questions, watches TV, goes online etc. They could have asked the police who he was and HEY... They could have even asked him about himself when he called them first and went there second. This sickens me that they didnt let this man in. I hope Mr A finds a family that would appreciate him. Dont waste your time on this family. I mean no ill harm to Lisa in saying that but to me this family is on its own. Lisa I am sure is no longer with us which is a shame so leave the family to fall head first themselves.. Like I said, I know which side of the fence i am on now..

 

[Jacie Estes]

I'm guessing an Ex cop knows how to handle this type thing.


imo

He's not an ex-cop, he served on a police commission.

 

[Donjeta]

If one member of your family is already missing wouldn't you be leery of letting a stranger into your house?

Yeah, it's quite possible. There are other safe places to meet. If I suspected a random stranger coming to my door might be responsible for my family member being missing I would definitely want his information so that LE could sleuth him out and maybe find my baby.

 

[Jacie Estes]

But it very well be that they felt that they just turned away another kook that has come out of the woodwork. We just don't know.

I guess, on top of everything else that they are doing wrong they aren't using their Spidey Sense.

 

[snowshuze]

When my son died, I would have given the earth to have someone there holding my hand...that knew EXACTLY what I was going through.


Thank you Gil, for trying to help find little Lisa.

 

[iamnotagolem]

So they should be leery of a stranger that has offered to help and has been through a similar situation, but when BS shows up he's welcomed with open arms? He wasn't invited by the family, someone else sent him. I may have missed something, going back to read.