Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 #28 **ARREST**

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  • #881
BBM~~~~

I totally agree. Whatever set her off Sunday night, she went to far and people were going to find out what she did. From hearing Gannon in the video I am of the belief he needed medical aid. The only way out, in her mind, was to murder Gannon.

The assault on little Gannon most likely started in the basement area where Gannon's bedroom was but by the time LS started her recording, Gannon was upstairs. She starts speaking to Gannon right after passing by the kitchen.

It is one of the most disturbing recordings I have ever listened to.
DUP
 
  • #882
been reading up on the morphology of blood pooling and how the 5 stages can give a great deal of information on the type of blood loss required the angle of contact and much more... that stain in Gannon's room may hold far more information than Tee could ever imagine
 
  • #883
Re the video. I agree, I never heard that phrase either. What I did hear is a severely emotional little boy. Sounded to me as if he had been crying (sobbing). The way TS spoke makes me believe she had been interrogating him for quite sometime. Also, a common thing NPD tend to do. They have their own narrative in their head of what happened, and they need to prove it, and will interrogate, rant and lecture until they hear what they want. And then the guilt trip and gaslighting. This is how I think that night went down. It’s severe mental and emotional abuse, and difficult for an adult to cope with, never mind a child.

I had imagined GS was in his bedroom, but your analysis of the floor plan makes sense too. The blood in the bedroom indicates that something happened initially in the bedroom, and perhaps he was moved to the bathroom for cleanup?

I also tend to lean to this not being premeditated in the sense that she planned ahead of time to murder him. I am leaning towards she lost her temper in a rage, hurt him in that rage and panicked overnight thinking that GS was going to tell AS.

I think most of this as well except for the part about her panicking that GS was going to tell AS. If we think about it, he turned on her pretty quickly and the cops knew from day one that she probably killed him. I think the abuse was ongoing and he maybe felt uncomfortable about her "efforts to discipline GS". But she probably played the victim card and acted like she just was so overwhelmed and that's why she lost her temper so much on Gannon because she couldn't handle the stress.

(ETA she probably also used the excuse that it was "only Gannon" and she didn't lose it on the other two to rationalize it to AS. And I'm wondering if the two other kids told the police what she would do to him regularly which clued them in to the reality)

NPD mothers like LS never feel remorse or guilt. So she wouldn't care if GS went to AS. She'd figure she'd talk her way or dominate her way out of it. That's why I think she must have hit him badly that day and he was throwing up and she thought he was being dramatic. So she drags him along in the car (which is why he's probably weak in the video) and he dies in the back of the truck while she's driving.

I also think it's likely that she threw his body down a cliff or ravine in an attempt to cover up the injuries she inflicted on him.

I don't think that she planned to kill him. But she is conniving in the way she thinks she's covering it up. I suggest that half of what she's saying is a truth and if we look at the truth in a different way we'll figure out the story. IOW she said she gave him a white bag in the car because he was throwing up, well yes she did and yes he was throwing up but not because he was sick. Probably a concussion going into dangerously fatal.

She also said he was supposedly going to a friends house and also pointed out she doesn't know where any of his friends live. So in that case maybe she's covering herself and she hid the body near one of the friends homes so that if they find him it matches her story that he was going to a friends but also alibis her in her mind because she previously stated she didn't know where any of his friends lived.

One thing I've noticed about NPDs is that have iron clad memories and pay close attention to minutiae and details that others don't. This is part of how they are able to manipulate so well.

MOO
 
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  • #884
Of course it is evidence, evidence of child abuse, if not torture and it doesn't matter what anybody does to it, they can strip it back to the original clean unedited original copy even if deleted
If TS posted the video on FB, then LE will use the file accessed from the FB servers, and the one they recover from her phone. The chain of custody standards must be met for the admissibility of evidence.
 
  • #885
Long, long ago in a thread far near the beginning, the man in the picture at GOTG had verified that he had seen them on that Sunday. In the infamous Cousin It video, the daughter confirms they went hiking.

I do believe that she harmed him that night with a beating of some sort. But, it has been confirmed that they hiked on Sunday.
That is correct, the torture video, as I call it, was Sunday night,not Saturday night.
 
  • #886
i respectfully disagree with the posters advocating the use of torture to get a confession from any defendant even Tee as abominable as she is, the point is we have to be better than the monsters not meet them on their level.

Gifted interrogators often state that using fear or pain do not necessarily produce the best results and that allowing a POI to feel
comfortable and accepted they are more likely to open up and willing provide much better information.
Kenda for the win


An eye for an eye and the whole
world goes blind


honestly i have definitely wanted to punch Tee in the neck many times but at the end of the day that wouldn't help G and probably only serve to make Tee feel more justified in her role as a victim
I said I’d like for her to have to free solo The Diamond as a punishment. It was just a quip related to the suffering she caused Gannon.

Torture doesn’t work even if it was reasonable.

I don’t believe she’ll give up Gannon’s location no matter what, but we don’t know what incentive would be appealing to her dark mind. I doubt that there’s room for lesser charges, and even if there was, I don’t think something that straightforward would matter to her.
 
  • #887
Now that we know what we know about LS, I'm thinking that they need to dig up that ex and do a very thorough autopsy . . . if LS didn't have him cremated.

No. He passed from an accident at work in Ohio. They were divorced in 2011
 
  • #888
been reading up on the morphology of blood pooling and how the 5 stages can give a great deal of information on the type of blood loss required the angle of contact and much more... that stain in Gannon's room may hold far more information than Tee could ever imagine
When the law and science meet, it makes for a great relationship. I will look into this as well as it is the first I heard of it.
 
  • #889
If I were LE I might consider flying LS into Denver and then drive the westerly scenic route back into Springs
 
  • #890
I wonder if there is more video than just the torture video that she uploaded, if that was just a portion. I am still surprised she uploaded that to her Facebook thinking it made Gannon look bad and her look good.
 
  • #891
BBM~~~~

I totally agree. Whatever set her off Sunday night, she went to far and people were going to find out what she did. From hearing Gannon in the video I am of the belief he needed medical aid. The only way out, in her mind, was to murder Gannon.

The assault on little Gannon most likely started in the basement area where Gannon's bedroom was but by the time LS started her recording, Gannon was upstairs. She starts speaking to Gannon right after passing by the kitchen.

It is one of the most disturbing recordings I have ever listened to.

If she recorded this, I think it would be safe to assume she recorded other times when she had to discipline the kids. She is a smart manipulator. She knows that when the dad came home it would be her word versus the kid's words. We don't know how this family did discipline. Were they talk it out types, spanking types, or talking and spanking type?

She released the video because she knew that LE had it and had to get in front of it. At one time I thought it was recorded to lend credibility to the idea that he ran away (hard time with step-mom, getting into trouble --possibly setting fires, step-mom coming down hard on him, him feeling like he jeopardized the family --have to move if we can't fix, sell stuff --which many people might say to an out of control kid, and him deciding he was running away to _______,) but I do wonder if she recorded stuff like this all the time to let his dad know how awful the kid(s) were being and how the kids were too hard to manage. Or, to prove what she did and when rather than having a step-mom said, kid's said situation. I believe it was all part of a crafted narrative over time rather than this single time.

But, with his sister just lying quietly in the bed (I believe it is her) seemingly not responding to the chaotic situation,I have come to think that this confrontation, manipulation and abuse were not a one off. I think there are/were lots of videos like this on her phone as evidence of the behavior problem this kid was (her thoughts not mine). IF spanking was a part of the discipline process in this home, then I think she escalated it to release her rage whenever the dad was gone. Of course, this is IMHO.
 
  • #892
@Chewy Totally agreed.
Good morning all
 
  • #893
Shouting Heard From Gannon Stauch's Home During CBS4 Live Report - not sure if this was ever brought up here since things move so quickly but it is unsettling to say the least.

Shouting was heard coming from the Stauch house on February 6 2020 while a news station happened to be recording live. You can hear it at about 20 or so seconds into the video at link. Also something worth noting is that the DA happened to be there at the time...
 
  • #894
Shouting Heard From Gannon Stauch's Home During CBS4 Live Report - not sure if this was ever brought up here since things move so quickly but it is unsettling to say the least.

Shouting was heard coming from the Stauch house on February 6 2020 while a news station happened to be recording live. You can hear it at about 20 or so seconds into the video at link. Also something worth noting is that the DA happened to be there at the time...

I believe the police went to shut the open garage door after they were on site and whoever was in the house was startled (question as to if it was other LE or Al/Landen and family).
 
  • #895
Catch 22. Her lawyer has to unseal it to see it.
Yes. And attorneys want to see everything as soon as they can. So requests to unseal all warrants and collected evidence as well as the arrest affidavit will be made immediatley. Most likely, at the first hearing the prosecution will detail their case. They will go into detail their theory and backup evidence that led them to the charges.
 
  • #896
Shouting Heard From Gannon Stauch's Home During CBS4 Live Report - not sure if this was ever brought up here since things move so quickly but it is unsettling to say the least.

Shouting was heard coming from the Stauch house on February 6 2020 while a news station happened to be recording live. You can hear it at about 20 or so seconds into the video at link. Also something worth noting is that the DA happened to be there at the time...

Looking back, I wonder if the shouting was a reaction due to something horrific being found. By any chance was either AS or LH also at the house during that time?
 
  • #897
I think they are similar. Both can’t shut their mouths, both think they are more intelligent than everyone else, both narcissists, both pathological liars. I would bet we see similar interrogation methods in both cases. She’s going to have to be made to feel important, in control, and well liked IMO
Didn't follow the Watts case in real time, but read about its outcome. LE played on his need to be seen as a good person to illicit his confession. It will be interesting to see how LE deal with T and if they are successful.
 
  • #898
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At the time, Letecia Stauch told authorities Gannon had left home to play at a friend’s home and had not been seen since. On February 12, she issued a statement to FOX31 about the case.

It was her first time to speak publicly, and to date, this remains the only interview Stauch has done on camera.

She claimed she would never hurt her stepson and claimed her own safety was at risk.

"My family is getting a lot of death threats; my family has counted over 20 some death threats already."

Shortly after the interview, Stauch went back to South Carolina, where she is originally from, and where she would be arrested several weeks later.

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"We would like to thank the following agencies for their time, ongoing efforts, expertise, and help they provided and continue to provide for this investigation," the El Paso County Sheriff's Office said in a statement March 2.
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4th Judicial District Attorney's Office
Colorado Springs Police Department
FBI (Denver and South Carolina)
Fountain Police Department
Horry County Sheriff’s Office
Horry County Police Department
Myrtle Beach Police Department
National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC)
South Carolina Law Enforcement Division (SLED)

Gannon Stauch’s stepmother arrested in 11-year-old’s disappearance

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11 News spoke to a Colorado Springs attorney March 2 after the stepmother's arrest to ask how the case moves forward if Gannon is never found.

"The fact that they were so confident in bringing first-degree murder charges along with several other charges, including tampering with a body, tells me they have plenty of evidence," David McDivitt told reporter Danielle Kreutter.

"They've all been working behind the scenes to build a case that allowed them to make these charges this morning, so there's no doubt in my mind they have a significant amount of physical evidence. To say, 'Look, we don't think we're going to find him alive, and we have also charged his stepmother with first-degree murder and tampering with a body,' these are very serious charges. These are as serious as charges can get, and prosecutors do not make these charges unless they feel like they have the evidence they need to win in court."

If Gannon is never found, McDivitt said the public only needs to look back to last year for an example of a case where prosecutors got a murder conviction despite never finding the victim.

"We've seen as recently as Patrick Frazee ... it can be done without a body, and there's no doubt in my mind the prosecutors have enough evidence where they feel confident to move forward with these charges."
ARREST: Letecia Stauch, stepmother of Gannon Stauch, arrested for his murder

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BSBM to highlight Special Investigation Units. The paperwork. The paperwork. The paperwork. I expect their professional assistants and executive administrators to have flowers covering their desk honoring this special day:
Wednesday ~ April 22, 2020.
Criminal Forms
 
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  • #899
Shouting Heard From Gannon Stauch's Home During CBS4 Live Report - not sure if this was ever brought up here since things move so quickly but it is unsettling to say the least.

Shouting was heard coming from the Stauch house on February 6 2020 while a news station happened to be recording live. You can hear it at about 20 or so seconds into the video at link. Also something worth noting is that the DA happened to be there at the time...

this was reported on immediatley after the incident. LE had ended their search of the house for that day, they thought they had forgotten to close the garage door so went back to the house, and scared the homeowner who had stopped by the house to collect some clothing.
 
  • #900
We know LS recorded a video/audio of her interaction with Gannon regarding particular damage to something in the house. I wonder what other recordings she may have made as she attempted to build a repertoire of explanations and defenses?

Discovery in this case might likely include many elements, some of which we'd never expect.
I agree. Lets keep in mind that TS's arrogance deceived her to believe that she would get away with this. So, even if she deleted things from her phone, it can be recovered.
 
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