Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #33

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  • #641
I hadn't really thought about it until now, but one of the other ways in which this case bears a striking similarity to the Berreth case is the remarkable speed with which charges were brought forward by the DA's office.

This, despite both of them being no-body cases.

In the Kelsey case, the crime occurred on November 22nd, 2018.
PF was arrested on December 21st, 2018.
4 weeks + 1 day after her murder.

In this case, the crime occurred on January 27th, 2020.
TS was arrested on March 2nd, 2020.
5 weeks to the day from the date of his disappearance.

The fact that those time intervals parallel each other so closely actually tells us a whole lot.

This DA would never green-light an arrest unless he was confident that he has all the evidence he needs to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that TS murdered GS.

Similar to the way PF managed to leave a neon flashing trail of breadcrumbs leading LE straight to his doorstep,
TS has undoubtedly left voluminous amounts of evidence in her destructive wake.

The prosecution has her dead to rights, and they know it.

Stick a fork in her.

She's done.

JMO.
 
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  • #642
My understanding from all the comments here by members who live there is that GOTG is like Disneyland. It would be difficult to do anything without someone seeing.
Looking at a 3D aerial map it does appear to be an 'everybody-can-see-you' area. There are boundary extremities that might allow for clandestine activity since much of the landscape is not flat line-of-sight and, there are ravines or valleys just west of the main attractions; maybe not easily accessible but they're there... might be too much work to facilitate the area.
 
  • #643
I would add attacking a deputy, but WOW--what a list! I'm not entirely convinced of transporting a body...I still believe there's the possibility the WSM made our sweet hero walk to his demise.

Entirely possible. I just can't calculate why the darned rental car tho.

My first guess is that she indeed made him walk (and had probably done similar things in the past). Then she told him he had to stay where he was, he was already weak and compromised. She told him she'd come back later when he had had time to think about all the horrible things he'd done (that she had probably done herself).

This is all just my imagination, but it would account for her wanting to go back the next day to check on him, this time without her Apple watch (but without realizing the rental car had geotags). She may have even gone back more than once, shoveling snow to hide the body, grabbing things she thought of as "evidence" to dispose of along the way.

I do believe that a piece of wood with Gannon's blood and TS's DNA on it will be a very useful piece of evidence in the upcoming trial. But I think they'll find his body soon.
 
  • #644
I would be shocked to find out anything different.
I know that it has not been a popular opinion..
but, I believe there is an excellent chance that his death was by gunshot wound.

AMOO JMO MOO
I pointed out what I saw, not interested in being popular. My father and brother (avid hunters) did not hesitate before saying TS was carrying a soft rifle case. But just because she was carrying it doesn't mean she used it. Lets hope I am wrong.
 
  • #645
To use in court yes.

To take a look-see? Its all there for them (PRISM et al).

With respect though my comment was on GPS not cellular and still stands, they are distinct technologies.
Distinct technologies, yes, but still, warrants are required for both for use in legal argument.
 
  • #646
I'm a reasonable man and I have my "reasonable" theories of what transpired in the last days of January. MassGuy and many others have provide exceptional insight and analysis of what could have "possibly" happened that led to Gannon's death. It's weird...when you concentrate or follow something and are committed your mind takes over and it spills into your dreams...I am sure we have all had dreams about work etc...well, last night I truly did have a dream about them finding Gannon. I think it will happen soon...I really do. There is just too much tech stuff these day's for them to not find him...even if it's in a landfill or something. With all this said...like or not...I do not for a minute think LS planned to kill him rather than I think it got out of hand and she saw no way out other than to cover her A%$# by making up those incredibly entertaining pre-splains of what happened and where she went. They (LE) will find Gannon and bring him home soon...that I am sure. I am thankful to have a forum to share ideas about cases like this and to read other ideas because having an open mind and being open to other interpretations is what solving crimes is all about...along with all the other physical evidence. No one really knows nor can comprehend what would compel a MOTHER (yes LS was one) to harm a child...boggles the mind. LS will receive justice, that I am sure. Thanks for indulging my pontification.
 
  • #647
My understanding from all the comments here by members who live there is that GOTG is like Disneyland. It would be difficult to do anything without someone seeing.

Facts, it's an over populated tourist attraction.

It would be basically impossible to murder/hide a body there during the daylight without someone seeing you.
 
  • #648
I pointed out what I saw, not interested in being popular. My father and brother (avid hunters) did not hesitate before saying TS was carrying a soft rifle case. But just because she was carrying it doesn't mean she used it. Lets hope I am wrong.

Well...given the other possibilities of how this could have happened..
all being deeply sinister,
using a rifle , would, if nothing else
be a quick way ( I hope!).
It is hard to think of any of these things.. but.. my feeling is that this is the method that she chose.
 
  • #649
At risk of sounding dreadful, she lost all bathroom privacy too.

She depends on the mood of the guard on how much toilet paper she gets at a time (in the suicide cell)
 
  • #650
I hadn't really thought about it until now, but one of the other ways in which this case bears a striking similarity to the Berreth case is the remarkable speed with which charges were brought forward by the DA's office.

This, despite both of them being no-body cases.

In the Kelsey case, the crime occurred on November 22nd, 2018.
PF was arrested on December 21st, 2018.
4 weeks + 1 day after her murder.

In this case, the crime occurred on January 27th, 2020.
TS was arrested on March 2nd, 2020.
5 weeks to the day from the date of his disappearance.

The fact that those time intervals parallel each other so closely actually tells us a whole lot.

This DA would never green-light an arrest unless he was confident that he has all the evidence he needs to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that TS murdered GS.

Similar to the way PF managed to leave a neon flashing trail of breadcrumbs leading LE straight to his doorstep,
TS has undoubtedly left voluminous amounts of evidence in her destructive wake.

The prosecution has her dead to rights, and they know it.

Stick a fork in her.

She's done.

JMO.
Curious as I didn't follow the Kelsey case...since you wrote he managed to leave a neon flashing trail of breadcrumbs, was any of that in the way of electronic evidence?
 
  • #651
Curious as I didn't follow the Kelsey case...since you wrote he managed to leave a neon flashing trail of breadcrumb, was any of that in the way of electronic evidence?
The most damning thing was the electronic evidence.

This genius traveled with his victim’s cell phone, and communicated with her phone while both phones were in the same place (he was trying to sell the narrative that Kelsey was alive, and back home at her house).

Many of his movements were tracked, and they clashed heavily with what he told law enforcement.

The phone evidence was so compelling that the defense didn’t even bother trying to refute it.
 
  • #652
Thank you! Means a lot. I guess I forgot "attacks deputy" and also "various forms of GPS tracking," as well as (almost certainly) "some use of debit or credit cards that will reveal her activity."

Plus she has probably blabbed a lot to a couple of people. Or a lot of people (given what she was up to in her support group).

I really hope she was stupid enough to use a credit/debit card somewhere but I do have to admit that after seeing all the true crime groups she was in on fb,there is a small part of me that would be disappointed in her for such an amateurish mistake:rolleyes:, you know,on top of all the other stupid amateurish mistakes like being caught on camera literally at the first hurdle,changing her story more than her knickers (yes,ok that was unfair,we all know she was forced to leave her knickers behind!) Etc:oops:
 
  • #653
I can't believe TS was able to hurt an officer. How are criminals handled during prison so TS won't get a chance to attack?
 
  • #654
I would add attacking a deputy, but WOW--what a list! I'm not entirely convinced of transporting a body...I still believe there's the possibility the WSM made our sweet hero walk to his demise.
I do too.
But she did something in an attempt to cover her tracks..
Maybe just cleaning house, badly.
Disposing of blood stained objects
Valeting vehicle, or vehicles...
hightailing it outa town
disposal of her own clothes, some of Gannon's clothes, her mobile device(s) think probably more than one.
Deleting her internet histories on each..
etc etc etc
The search of his phone was most likely her search
throwing search parties off in the wrong direction
providing false information by calling him a runaway
 
  • #655
Curious as I didn't follow the Kelsey case...since you wrote he managed to leave a neon flashing trail of breadcrumb, was any of that in the way of electronic evidence?
BBM:

HaHaHaHaHa! Thank you for that, I needed a good laugh!

Is the Pope Catholic?

Which is to say: Heck, Yeah.

There was a plethora of electronic evidence in that case.

PF apparently didn't realize that cell phones could be tracked.

Seriously.
 
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  • #656
I hadn't really thought about it until now, but one of the other ways in which this case bears a striking similarity to the Berreth case is the remarkable speed with which charges were brought forward by the DA's office.

This, despite both of them being no-body cases.

In the Kelsey case, the crime occurred on November 22nd, 2018.
PF was arrested on December 21st, 2018.
4 weeks + 1 day after her murder.

In this case, the crime occurred on January 27th, 2020.
TS was arrested on March 2nd, 2020.
5 weeks to the day from the date of his disappearance.

The fact that those time intervals parallel each other so closely actually tells us a whole lot.

This DA would never green-light an arrest unless he was confident that he has all the evidence he needs to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that TS murdered GS.

Similar to the way PF managed to leave a neon flashing trail of breadcrumbs leading LE straight to his doorstep,
TS has undoubtedly left voluminous amounts of evidence in her destructive wake.

The prosecution has her dead to rights, and they know it.

Stick a fork in her.

She's done.

JMO.
Senior Deputy District Attorney Michael Allen is in for the win. He appears confident in his abilities, unwavering in his position, and that is a real good thing!
 
  • #657
My thoughts, exactly. Gannon was thin, not very muscular, as are many boys his age. Claiming 90 lbs. would be pushing it.
Add in adrenaline and I think she could carry him much further than people might think.
 
  • #658
I can't believe TS was able to hurt an officer. How are criminals handled during prison so TS won't get a chance to attack?

Well, there's hurt and there's hurt. No matter what happened during the road trip, I expect the officer would have been treated for any injury, even if it was a scratch. Plus later reports said TS was also treated. So I don't think we really know the extent of injuries for either person.
JMO
 
  • #659
No
Nah, I don't think she used that as a murder weapon. I DO think she used its case for something. Hence no case, just the bow leaning against the wall.

here's a random Google image of the type of case:
If you look closely, the bow is tilting out of the case.
 
  • #660
Here are some ways that Ms Stauch may have screwed up:

  • Videoing various of her activities (and Gannon's) at times near to when he disappeared
  • Loading things into the truck while on neighbors' cameras (plural, MOO)
  • Appearing on various cameras in the area where the searches are taking place
  • Throwing evidence out of her truck/car, things with DNA on them (blood evidence included)
  • Admitting to a reporter that she threw things out of the truck, one of which was bloody wood
  • Somehow getting a quantity of Gannon's blood in the home
  • Making an urgent call to have the home cleaned or otherwise returned to its state of cleanliness (so that AS wouldn't notice)
  • Making a missing poster with erroneous information about Gannon
  • Renting a car for spurious reasons when Gannon had only been missing for 12 hours
  • Transporting a body in one or more vehicles
  • Lying to AS in text messages and phone calls
  • Wearing her Apple Watch all day on Monday
  • Involving her 17 year old daughter in her alibi
  • Being abusive to Gannon in front of witnesses
  • Taunting of Gannon's family on SM
  • Leaving the state soon after Gannon disappeared
  • Not realizing that rental cars have geotrackers on them for just such cases as these
  • Not realizing that GPS on the AppleWatch isn't disabled by leaving the phone at home
  • Lying to police about Gannon running away (about him being at home between 2 and 3:15)
  • Evidence of body fluids/blood in at least one vehicle
  • Prior suspicion of abuse by school system likely
  • A past history of vengeful behavior and threats to AS and possibly LH
  • Ceasing to cooperate with police (interviews) early on in the investigation (probably Day 2)
  • Injuries to her hands
I'm sure there's more. This is just my list of reasonably expected outcomes when we see the arrest warrant. I think there will be dozens of objects with either blood or DNA on them. I suspect there will be cadaverine and other components of decomp found on her clothing, perhaps in the laundry, or maybe in the vehicles.
Good grief!! Why do we need a prosecuting attorney when we have 10ofRods?!
 
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