Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #36

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Agreed. You can generate a lot of force with a board of that size. My thoughts, however, are that she used the board to finish him off when she got him to a remote location. And then, she tossed the board into a field where she didn't think it would be found -- along with the sock(s) she wore on her hands to keep her DNA off the board (or to protect her hands from a splintery board end). I think the injury on Sunday was to his stomach/bowel, hence the "pooping pants" thing. Also, it could have resulted in the saucer size blood pool on the carpet because he would not be able to keep himself from expelling blood in his intestines.

JMO

MOO
I am thankful the board was found !

Forensics specialists can determine what type of blood and if it was from a cut foot or internal/vomiting.
 
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You misunderstood the context or I didn't explain very well.

If a child had JUST gone missing in my neighborhood and I heard that from the parents or from another neighbor, I would not say to the parent "do you want to search my video?" I would do that myself assuming I knew what the child looked like. No way in a neighborhood full of cameras do the parents or parent have time to view each neighbor's video. But it is being reported that's what RD did. He contacted TS on the 27th or 28th and asked if she wanted to review his video.

The truck video isn't in play at that point. RD has been quoted in multiple MSM outlets that he found it days later on Sat. Feb 1 and showed it to AS on Feb 2. TS was long gone by then.

If I found video that was ambiguous and might be the kid might not be, and it was right after the disappearance, yes, I likely would show it to the parent. If for some reason I feared the parent, I'd call LE. Since RD claims he asked LS if she wanted to look at his video, that suggests he wasn't afraid of her. But it still makes no sense to me he didn't just review it himself.
JMO

Say as part of her 'alibi' (or scouting for info/video) she went to the neighbor on each side and maybe across the street on Monday right before (or after) calling police. He says yeah, I have video, want to see it? She says no, he went the other way. That's the end of it until he (or someone else) thinks differently on the matter. moo
 
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In hindsight, I’m sooooo glad LS did not want to see RD’s footage because that just tells me that it did not occur to her AT ALL that all her movements might be caught on his camera.
A frantic worried parent would have wanted to see the video
 
  • #1,365
Hmmmm....
Several "Hmmms' "
A theory : Did the perp have any substance abuse issues in her past ?
Not that I know of,but perhaps she has connections to someone who's been there. Of course it could be just a coincedence. It is very interesting though. MOO
 
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@RaspberryMama You explained it perfectly. Thank you :)
I fully appreciate members keeping TS’s lies and actions out front for them to be seriously shredded by good information as it comes to light. TIA
 
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I have a question about the dog that AS says is his and wants it returned immediately.

I’m sure it was purchased for Laina and Gannon. Did LS give this dog to a relative or friend or did she kill the dog?

I am wondering if she made some excuse to AS that she was keeping the dog but that she really killed it. Out of spite.
 
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here is the thing, In don't believe TS had any elaborate plan, I believe she did what she did to get rid of the body only after she realized that he was hurt bad and she had to finish him off and so therefore she had no elaborate plan, she just happened to put him somewhere that hasn't been searched yet, Im sure he will be found as soon as they look in just the right place, she was desperate and in a hurry, all hyped up and trying to cover her tracks. She didn't cover herself too good cause LE was on to her pretty fast, if it aint happened now it just aint happened yet......he will be found..
 
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Hmmmm....
Several "Hmmms' "
A theory : Did the perp have any substance abuse issues in her past ?
That's what I was asking about yesterday since the defense specifically listed treatment for drug and alcohol addiction and military records. It might have been just a standard request that LE not seek information about those things but I wondered if there was a specific reason for the last two that were listed.
She does seem to go to extremes to hide her past history.

Imo
 
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That is 100% correct.
RD is a hero in this case.
Recall the original report that Gannon was 'accounted for' up to 3.15pm on Monday 27.
Naturally everybody just looked at footage after that time.
He was so disturbed he microanalysed all his footage including times prior to the 3.15pm time on the Saturday night after Gannon's disappearance. He informed Gannon's dad early Sunday morning, Gannon's dad contacted LE.
They arrived and checked and approved his conclusions about what they had witnessed.
The search centre was immediately re-located at 2pm on that Sunday.
Calling him abusive names is rather mean spirited as well as being inaccurate when evidence to the contrary not only exists but is printed and sourced here on Websleuths.
RD is also not the Perp. He's a victim too. MOO
 
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Maybe. But I think it's just who is in charge of their video. And if that's useful it doesn't have to be because of shoplifting. (Not much use for a store to only discover shoplifters after the fact anyway. LE isn't likely to jump right on that as a pressing case as a matter of course I wouldn't think.) JMO
lost prevention also is called upon for any video footage that may be needed that the stores cameras pick up in the parking lot or someone driving by.
 
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here is the thing, In don't believe TS had any elaborate plan, I believe she did what she did to get rid of the body only after she realized that he was hurt bad and she had to finish him off and so therefore she had no elaborate plan, she just happened to put him somewhere that hasn't been searched yet, Im sure he will be found as soon as they look in just the right place, she was desperate and in a hurry, all hyped up and trying to cover her tracks. She didn't cover herself too good cause LE was on to her pretty fast, if it aint happened now it just aint happened yet......he will be found..
It will be a good day when it happens.
 
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A frantic worried parent would have wanted to see the video
Yes.
If missing after going to friends I would check the whole day and weekend to see if someone suspicious had driven by casing the house.
A missing boy of 11 with no runaway history my first worry would be about predator kidnap.
 
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Of course I regard RD's video as a blessing. It empowered LE to move in mighty and quickly. > 107 warrants in 5 weeks time is the work of a powerful force.

I think he was misled to give it to the news media. But I am hopeful there was more than one recording ;)
Easy to get caught in the frenzy. Am grateful for the neighbor (s) m, their contributions, and support.
 
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Same. And I took it as they help abused children in general but that most had been sexually abused. :( I too, am hoping it was generalized questions about emotional or physical abuse and not anything more substantial.:(

I’m way behind today and I’m not sure if your question has been answered but Safe Passage conducts forensic interviews to help LE obtain evidence. I don’t think it has anything to do with sexual abuse. I’m just guessing here but I don’t think they will put GS’s little 6 year old sister on the stand nor any of his friends that he may have confided in about abuse. That would be very traumatic for them. I think LE has used them as experts to obtain video interviews from the littles to be shown in court. Jmo

This pic is from their website on forensic interviews.
 

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In hindsight, I’m sooooo glad LS did not want to see RD’s footage because that just tells me that it did not occur to her AT ALL that all her movements might be caught on his camera.
Exactly!! And if she gave it any thought at all, she assumed it was a doorbell camera and her driveway would be out of view. The news of that video gobsmacked her right between the eyes and left her unhinged.
 
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Agreed. You can generate a lot of force with a board of that size. My thoughts, however, are that she used the board to finish him off when she got him to a remote location. And then, she tossed the board into a field where she didn't think it would be found -- along with the sock(s) she wore on her hands to keep her DNA off the board (or to protect her hands from a splintery board end). I think the injury on Sunday was to his stomach/bowel, hence the "pooping pants" thing. Also, it could have resulted in the saucer size blood pool on the carpet because he would not be able to keep himself from expelling blood in his intestines.

JMO

MOO
DBM
 
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I read in an earlier thread "she wouldn't do this in broad daylight unless she had to" (paraphrasing), and that got me thinking... why would she do it in broad daylight vs. at night? I think it's pretty much assumed the brunt of the abuse happened before Monday, and if she knew he was going to die, wouldn't it make more sense to do something at night?
She needed to take care of it when she would be alone with him - no witnesses at home during the day. Sisters were away at school and work for the day.
 
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A frantic worried parent would have wanted to see the video
Or at least for the homeowner to glance through it while you're going door to door or making the police report. ITA, a concerned parent would want it reviewed quickly for anything out of the ordinary and THEN tell the police about it.
 
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That is 100% correct.
RD is a hero in this case.
Recall the original report that Gannon was 'accounted for' up to 3.15pm on Monday 27.
Naturally everybody just looked at footage after that time.
He was so disturbed he microanalysed all his footage including times prior to the 3.15pm time on the Saturday night after Gannon's disappearance. He informed Gannon's dad early Sunday morning, Gannon's dad contacted LE.
They arrived and checked and approved his conclusions about what they had witnessed.
The search centre was immediately re-located at 2pm on that Sunday.
Calling him abusive names is rather mean spirited as well as being inaccurate when evidence to the contrary not only exists but is printed and sourced here on Websleuths.
Thank you, @kittythehare . It is my choice to believe RD is a decent man who had the courage and conviction to come forward with very pertinent video. It is not his fault that events beyond his control occurred.
To those who are being less than kind and charitable, I ask you, do you want to be “those people” who would discourage someone in another future case from coming forward?
 
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