Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #39

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JMO
Ive been racking my brain trying to understand why she or a helper moved his body and I think I finally settled on a main reason.

In Colorado at night, it probably got very cold and almost froze the body. She may have even taken the rental car on a fake trip to "look for him" and instead went to check the body and realized it was not decomposing at all.

She realized it would take a lot longer for a body to decompose in Colorado until it got into the warmer days and months. And since she knew how hot and insect buggy the southern states get, she probably realized if she brought the body as far south as possible, it would speed up decomposition. She also probably figured that it would help to get the body as far away from all the searching as possible and that clinched her new plan to move him.

Since she was planning on heading South anyway, I think she decided to bring him or talk someone else into bringing him South with her so that the decomposition process would speed up as fast as possible to hopefully hide evidence on the body of what happened to him. She was also hoping he would never be found down South.

I have to wonder if maybe even two cars headed South. Maybe she was in one vehicle and arranged with a helper to drive the other vehicle. I could see her talking someone close to her into a fake story that he died on accident and she was so afraid that she hid him. The other person may have believed her and decided to help.

Anyway, just my latest thoughts on why she decided she had to move the body.

Hopefully it will all come out in evidence during a successful prosecution of her and anyone else if anyone else is involved.
Interesting theories- I would also note that the area where he was discovered ... gulf coast from Pensacola to NO happens to be close to one of the largest known child trafficking locations in the USA. Edit: human trafficking
 
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You know,Now I don't know? Maybe they just positively identified Gannon today. Other more knowledgeable sleuthers can answer that.

He was found by a construction worker on Wed 3/18 and tentatively identified as GS. On Friday 3/20 after autopsy was done they confirmed it was GS.
 
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The majority of women in prison are there for domestic violence. It's not Orange is the New Black (federal prison). And most states have little desire to put anyone in prison for victimless crimes.

When women get violent, it's not usually with strangers.

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That's true. I know her case was unique, but I think anytime you kidnap and cross state lines the federal govt CAN prosecute, but of course they don't always. I was also considering what you said about it staying with Dan May's office and I was hoping it wouldn't move hands because it seems like they have been very thorough and I don't want any chance for a mess up. Not saying feds would, but I think you guys understand what I mean. If it ain't broke, don't fix it basically. Now knowing what we do, it did make me wonder though if they didn't have a good idea she had left the state with him based upon the DA suddenly saying at that presser after her hearing that the death penalty wasn't off the table. Things that make you go hmmmm...
BBM:

It's the fact that Gannon was <12 yoa that makes his murder a dp-eligible crime in Colorado.

Killing a child under the age of 12 is one of the aggravating factors.
 
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Where did TS say that? I'm not doubting you, I just don't remember that she was ever that "specific" as to time. And I've been wondering about AS's arrival time (and place) for a long time.

can’t say this helps, but I did find this:

Gannon Stauch: Stepmom explains rental car as search for missing Colorado boy continues [EXCLUSIVE PART 2]

Rental Car
There has been some online speculation that Stauch rented a car on the day Gannon disappeared. Stauch claimed the majority of the accusations have come from people who “do not have the facts” of the case.

While she is not disputing that she rented a car, Stauch said she didn’t rent the car until Tuesday, January 28, the day after Gannon mysteriously disappeared.

That morning, Stauch said she picked up her husband at the Colorado Springs airport; both left the airport in the rental car, she claimed.

Stauch said, “the plan was to look for Gannon in a car he would not recognize.” Stauch added that they didn’t know if Gannon would hide from his family’s cars, thinking he was in trouble

CrimeOnline viewed a Budget Rental receipt and confirmation number that indicated a white Kia Rio sedan was rented from the Colorado Springs airport at 8:50 a.m. on January 28, 2020, under Tecia Stauch’s name. The car was returned the following day at 1:20 p.m. [receipt pic at link]
 
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Tile Inc is the company that makes the Tile tracking devices. You stick them to your car keys, luggage, suitcase, etc. I have them in all of our protective cases for our kits that get deployed to locations all over the world. They link to your phone's Bluetooth so you can locate them or alert them. Other users are part of the hive that helps to keep track of them since the range of Bluetooth is limited. I have actually traveled with my cases and watched them move around in airports nowhere near where I was due to other people with the app. If you try to locate one of the tiles and you are not nearby, it will utilize all the users around the world to look for it. When it shows up somewhere, you get a notification that another user on the app located it for you.


Thank you for explaining! That was my other guess but I wasn’t sure. I bought a couple for my husband this past winter because I was so sick of him losing his wallet and keys every day despite giving him a tray to put them in so he didn’t lose them in the first place. They really work like a charm! It is also really great to know that they can help in cases like this too. I bet most people wouldn’t think of that while committing a crime.
 
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BBM:

It's the fact that Gannon was <12 yoa that makes his murder a dp-eligible crime in Colorado.

Killing a child under the age of 12 is one of the aggravating factors.

I know that, but I was just thinking moving a person against their will(kidnapping) alive or dead is considered a federal crime. That's why I pondered if his comment about that had more meaning than what was obvious to all of us on the outside at the time. They knew multiple factors could make it dp eligible, so he just threw it out there, but I would surmise they never really have intended to prosecute as dp. All jmo and thoughts I have had as more pieces of the puzzle start to be laid on the table.
 
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This is similar to the kyron Gorman case about 10 years ago, he to was living with his dad and stepmom. She takes him to school.and he is never seen again . it seems like the kids who this happens to are never living with.
Their bio mom. I.am not at all judging Gannons parents my heart breaks for them, but there is noooo way my child wouldn't be living with me, no one would take care of that child better then me, I would never trust another woman to raise my child just because she is married to my ex. These were not weekend visits, these boys had been living with stepmom for years
No Way.
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Believe me it's not only stepmoms who kill children by far. Iirc, those murdered by a step parent or live in boyfriend or girlfriend are around 4 to 5% of those who murder children.

All anyone has to do is look at the many cases right here on WS, both active, and recent murder cases to realize way too many bio moms are murdering their precious children or are willing coconspirators in carrying out horrific abuses, gross neglect, murders, and helping to discard their children's bodies.

The last data I read on the maltreatment of all children in the US it is done 59 to 60% of the time by their own biological mothers.

It's also biological moms who are selling their little children to pedophiles or are raping, molesting their own small children while video taping it, and selling it online to other pedophiles.

I've also read bio moms, and bio dads by far murder their children much more often than steps or live ins do.

This case is absolutely horrendous no doubt...committed by the most evil stepmom imaginable, but we cant lose sight of who the majority of abused, grossly neglected children had/have to fear the most during their childhood if they survive, and its bio parents.

Children who suffer neglect, abuse, and being murdered are also committed by a bio parent the majority of the time.

I would put the links up now, but I'm away from my computer. Since my recent hospital stay I cant sit up for long at my computer or I would link them all myself like I usually do.

We can't pretend that children only have to fear someone that doesnt have the same bloodline as they do for it simply isn't true.

I read almost every single day about another child being abused or killed, and most often the suspect is one of their own parent who brought them into this world then feel they are burdens they no longer want to carry instead of the true blessings from God as all children are.

To think the cure all for protecting all children is for the bio mom to be raising them is unrealistic,and baseless since so many of them are the very ones causing great pain, suffering, and death.

Maybe another poster would be so kind to put the links up for me. If not, I will try my best to do it tomorrow.

As a childhood abuse survivor, I think it's very important for all to know who children have to fear the most, and who is the greatest enemy they have to face behind closed doors of their home.

The facts, no matter how brutal to take, matters... especially when it comes to the maltreatment of precious innocent children.

Jmhoo
 
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She is a self proclaimed outdoorsman, hiker, works out regularly. Yeah she did it.

She looks soft and doughy, she works out in her mind. I can't see her lifting around all that weight and going over rocks and down embankments etc. But I guess it's possible because I still cannot even believe she would murder an innocent child that trusted her and probably even loved her! What a disgusting evil loathsome b**ch
 
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Cellphones, selfies, Apple watches and switches, car GPSs, rental GPSs, neighbor's security camera footage, CCTV --

If TS really did have a passing interest in crime stories, she must've been watching Forensic Files, 1970s edition.

Her idiocy did complicate things in terms of data collection and manpower hours, but her 1970s cleverness isn't going to carry her in 2020.

Bracing myself for the arrest warrants, when they come.

We haven't seen full ugly yet.


Hard to believe, because she's shown us plenty of ugly already.

JMO JMO JMO

The PC affidavit will be a trip to the circus compared to the ME's report.

Those are always the hardest to read, especially when it's a child.
 
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Believe me it's not only stepmoms who kill children by far. Iirc, those murdered by a step parent or live in boyfriend or girlfriend are around 4 to 5% of those who murder children.

All anyone has to do is look at the many cases right here on WS, both active, and recent murder cases to realize way too many bio moms are murdering their precious children or are willing coconspirators in carrying out horrific abuses, gross neglect, murders, and helping to discard their children's bodies.

The last data I read on the maltreatment of all children in the US it is done 59 to 60% of the time by their own biological mothers.

It's also biological moms who are selling their little children to pedophiles or are raping, molesting their own small children while video taping it, and selling it online to other pedophiles.

I've also read bio moms, and bio dads by far murder their children much more often than steps or live ins do.

This case is absolutely horrendous no doubt...committed by the most evil stepmom imaginable, but we cant lose sight of who the majority of abused, grossly neglected children had/have to fear the most during their childhood if they survive, and its bio parents.

Children who suffer neglect, abuse, and being murdered are also committed by a bio parent the majority of the time.

I would put the links up now, but I'm away from my computer. Since my recent hospital stay I cant sit up for long at my computer or I would link them all myself like I usually do.

We can't pretend that children only have to fear someone that doesnt have the same bloodline as they do for it simply isn't true.

I read almost every single day about another child being abused or killed, and most often the suspect is one of their own parent who brought them into this world then feel they are burdens they no longer want to carry instead of the true blessings from God as all children are.

To think the cure all for protecting all children is for the bio mom to be raising them is unrealistic,and baseless since so many of them are the very ones causing great pain, suffering, and death.

Maybe another poster would be so kind to put the links up for me. If not, I will try my best to do it tomorrow.

As a childhood abuse survivor, I think it's very important for all to know who children have to fear the most, and who is the greatest enemy they have to face behind closed doors of their home.

The facts, no matter how brutal to take, matters especially when it comes to innocent children.

Jmhoo
Totally agree. In the US alone- a child is murdered by there bio mom once every three days... bio moms and dads kill their children more often than step moms and dads...
Every situation is different and making assumptions is just not a practical way to go about identifying and/or correcting situations of abuse. Educating each other on what we “know” is a good start though.
 
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Thanks for the correction. I definitely wrote the wrong thing. Here's another try.

When women are violent, they are typically violent toward people they know. When children are murdered (for example) if they are 4 and under, it's often their mother (figure).

I had California stats in the back of my mind - I forgot the rest of the states were out there. Pretty dumb of me. However, Colorado's prison profiles are similar to California's, so you'd see a much smaller slice of the pie for "drug" and "property" (as both states have shrunk their crime rates in those areas - especially for women, which is great because it was expanding quickly there for a while). Colorado doesn't have a notable opioid crisis (at least, not like some states).

Anyway, I was thinking about that instead of national stats. But you're right - there are many kinds of women prisoners, as well. Some prisons segregate by inmate type (so that the non-violent offenders are never with the violent offenders - I am predicting that LS's world will be the latter, not the former - and if Colorado prisons don't segregate in that manner, they really should start).

In the jail where I've done the most work, nearly all non-violent offenders are booked and sent home. (Resisting arrest is kept but processed separately if that's the only charge - they go off for drug testing immediately and are in a hospital jail ward in another jail).

All violent offenders need to get an attorney and appear in court. On the women's side of the jail, it's about 80% DV and on the men's side, it's about 50-60% DV. We have that law where the victim's testimony isn't necessary. The women's DV is often directed at children, although sister-sister or similar kinds of peer household violence are a surprising major category (was surprising to me anyway, back when I learned it - I guess it still surprises me but I don't have a sister, so...)
 
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Well, I sure as hell stand corrected. I thought for certain he was in Colorado, close to the house. I posted my revised theory of when and why she moved him at 4:00 this morning. I couldn’t sleep and kept turning everything over in my mind. I’m firmly in the “will not plead” camp. I think she’s another Arias and will love every second in the spotlight, telling her story her way. She is vile and inhuman.
 
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1. Maybe I misunderstood you. But you said What did she do for those 3 hours in the rental? Anyway, that could be easily proven, when she rented.

What could easily be proven? What she did for 3 hours? How could that be proven?

2. "wonder if anyone else used her car"
This would mean indicating someone else was to blame.

She is to blame and no one else. And 13 charges against her back that up.
I’m thinking AS truck sent for cleaning, drove her SUV to rent the car at airport and parked it in short term parking. If there are missing hours, I’m not ready to speculate. Probably met AS inside the airport put him in her vehicle and took the rental car not “so he wouldn’t recognize the car” but to “double our efforts honey” (my words not hers because that’s what a non psycho would do). You go east and I’ll go west or whatever. Would’ve given her many hours to move our boy if that’s when it happened.
 
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can’t say this helps, but I did find this:

Gannon Stauch: Stepmom explains rental car as search for missing Colorado boy continues [EXCLUSIVE PART 2]

Rental Car
There has been some online speculation that Stauch rented a car on the day Gannon disappeared. Stauch claimed the majority of the accusations have come from people who “do not have the facts” of the case.

While she is not disputing that she rented a car, Stauch said she didn’t rent the car until Tuesday, January 28, the day after Gannon mysteriously disappeared.

That morning, Stauch said she picked up her husband at the Colorado Springs airport; both left the airport in the rental car, she claimed.

Stauch said, “the plan was to look for Gannon in a car he would not recognize.” Stauch added that they didn’t know if Gannon would hide from his family’s cars, thinking he was in trouble

CrimeOnline viewed a Budget Rental receipt and confirmation number that indicated a white Kia Rio sedan was rented from the Colorado Springs airport at 8:50 a.m. on January 28, 2020, under Tecia Stauch’s name. The car was returned the following day at 1:20 p.m. [receipt pic at link]

Thank you. That's what I had remembered. That she said she picked him up "in the morning." Not that she rented the car and then picked him up "later that morning." I thought, but wasn't positive, she said she picked him up in CS.
 
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Has anyone seen an unredacted copy of the rental receipt? Did she return the car to the same location it was rented at? I found it odd that the drop off location was hidden, but not the pickup. Just a random thought.
 
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To take his body with her, and drive all the way to Florida, is absolutely unfathomable. It’s unprecedented, at least under these specific circumstances (the heat was cranking up, and the country was looking at her).

What she did breaks just about every rule (in regards to a crime like this).

In some cases there is a question as to if someone could potentially get away with it. There are absolutely no such concerns here.

There’s going to be enough evidence to convict her a dozen times.

RSBM
While certainly rare and undoubtedly macabre, it does happen.

I recall a case not too long ago where a father went nuts offed the kids and took them and crossed several state lines before he got rid of them.
In bags. :(
Timothy Jones Jr.

I believe there was another in WA state, left in N. Cali - quite a few years ago.

I can't recall the name of the monster (or victim) in that case but I seem to recall it was a little girl.

In any case, point being, if TS was even a passive true crime reader, she may have recalled these or other similar cases, since they are examples of (as you say) the unfathomable, and unthinkable.

After all, she surely does seem to love to have everyone's attention.

Also, it certainly wouldn't be the first time some up and coming murderer followed infamous criminals and/or idolized them. :mad:

jmo
 
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Well, I sure as hell stand corrected. I thought for certain he was in Colorado, close to the house. I posted my revised theory of when and why she moved him at 4:00 this morning. I couldn’t sleep and kept turning everything over in my mind. I’m firmly in the “will not plead” camp. I think she’s another Arias and will love every second in the spotlight, telling her story her way. She is vile and inhuman.

MOO think he WAS near the house. Picked his body up and left town.
 
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Well, I sure as hell stand corrected. I thought for certain he was in Colorado, close to the house. I posted my revised theory of when and why she moved him at 4:00 this morning. I couldn’t sleep and kept turning everything over in my mind. I’m firmly in the “will not plead” camp. I think she’s another Arias and will love every second in the spotlight, telling her story her way. She is vile and inhuman.

MOO think he WAS near the house. Picked his body up and left town.
 
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If you go back to the Eric Preimesberger thread you'll read that he was shoved into a rented freezer in a rented uhaul. Later the accomplices burried him in the sand and burnt the couch he died on.

So can someone put a dead body in a freezer Yes!

Yes I know that happens.....in several cases that I've read about, a body has been placed in a freezer. Would she have been able to hide his body in a freezer somewhere? That seems unlikely in this case but who knows.

I was actually thinking about the body being outside. Colorado is usually a very cold place in winter, so I wondered about the temperatures during that time period. If she beat/stabbed him first, and then killed him somewhere outside and just left his body... would his remains freeze due to the low temps in winter.

This case is just awful.
 
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