Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #40

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  • #801
Well she may have needed help to move, but anyone unknowingly helping her transport a body, committed absolutely no crime. The context is a criminal act on the part of others.

We still don’t know who was with her on that trip, how many vehicles were involved, who was driving what, or where Gannon’s body was during all of this.
She might have thought that these people were her ride or die relatives, but I have no doubt that LE now knows who was where and when. They are not just idling standing by, hoping they might tell them and I'm sure LE is leaning heavily on them. Even rats will jump ship, when it's sinking.
 
  • #802
Well she may have needed help to move, but anyone unknowingly helping her transport a body, committed absolutely no crime. The context is a criminal act on the part of others.

We still don’t know who was with her on that trip, how many vehicles were involved, who was driving what, or where Gannon’s body was during all of this.
She might have thought that these people were her ride or die relatives, but I have no doubt that LE now knows who was where and when. They are not just idling standing by, hoping they might tell them and I'm sure LE is leaning heavily on them. Even rats will jump ship, when it's sinking.
I don’t think so. The Sun article was written by a hack over 1000 miles away. He’s known for exaggeration, and for flat out screwing up the unscrewable.

These local journalists have been solid, and have law enforcement connections. I’m more than confident it’s accurate.
Do you think they included the blunt instrument, because he had an injury that was revealed in the autopsy, even though it might not have caused his death?
 
  • #803
ANY child on their own under a certain age in those temperatures are "ENDANGERED" almost immediately! Maybe they already knew they weren't dealing with an endangered child, but then what?
IMO With limited information those first few hours, LE knew Gannon didn't fit the profile of a runaway. IMO
Does it? What with all my (sudden) online teaching, I haven't had time to listen - but boy will it be great if we can discuss some missing pieces that the entire rest of the internet is discussing, here and there. If someone could say which segment that's in...be great.



I find that all plausible, although...does that mean she rented another car?? Nissan and truck go to SC with the 4 family members (but no Gannon, who is stashed somewhere along that route). LS decides this is a good time to rent another car, go get Gannon, drive to Florida and have a good time before returning to SC.

ALL of these scenarios are HORRIBLE. Not sure she arrived by the 5th, then, given other things she's said. "She put it behind her."

Okay, so maybe she does have an Axis I diagnosis or some new-to-Earth mental condition.

"She put it behind her." --CLOSING STATEMENT, thank you LS.
 
  • #804
I wonder if the charges concerning the gun are based on her appearing to carry a soft rifle bag to the truck and a gun being missing from the home and not on autopsy results. I sure hope so.
 
  • #805
Then she had to drive the truck because the other 4 people had to be in the car.

Or do you think that after the Jan 31 interview, she took them to the airport. What happens to her stuff in the trunk? How did those 4 people fit their stuff into the trunk if Gannon was in a suitcase in that small space?

What did she do with the Nissan? Or did she take the Nissan and return the truck (did it really have nothing inside of it and was just a prop? I don't think so - I think she took stuff from the Mandan house, a lot of stuff actually, and put it in the truck. I think Gannon was in the truck myself. But either way, she has 4 people and an extra vehicle to get rid of, while high-tailing it to FL.

Of course, I am very set on my own view that LS has a severe personality disorder (cluster) that some people might say is "sociopathic" but which I view as covered by DSM - under Borderline/Narcissistic. But especially Borderline (severe enough though, to be off the scale of regular personality disorders - almost no one is this crazy). The key characteristic of her personality is the inability to be alone and fear of abandonment.

I could say more, but let's just say that the amount of typing she did (all by itself) during her flight to FL makes me think she wasn't driving the whole way.
Speculating since we know very little. But I think she intentionally wanted to be seen in the car after the interview but in actuality she drove the truck and by herself. HH likely then drove the car possibly with an unknown male friend. And she likely sent HH in one direction thinking she could throw LE off if they thought she was in the vehicle with HH, but she took off in a detour direction in the truck instead. The 2 aunts? Who knows? They could have had a 3rd vehicle or flown out to their homes (I have no idea where they live). But I think she wanted people to believe she was in the car when she left CO. So now she can say “You saw me leave in the car. That truck was not mine and did not have my stuff in it. I told you i wasn’t even allowed to get my undies.”moo
 
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  • #806
Still trying to understand these charges, I am sure Are they it has been discussed already but bear with me. Did she use all these weapons or it is just the way the charges are worded, in that one of them is used.

I feel if she had help it was not a relative at least not the ones that knew Gannon. If she was arrested based on someone turning her in then they most likely would have shared where she dumped the body, I guess the police got enough evidence on their own.
 
  • #807
Yup, sad for obvious reasons, and sad because literally the worst journalist on the face of the earth (Chris Spargo), actually broke real news.

Have I told you how much I hate him?! Because I really, really, really do.
How in the heck did spargo get the tip I thought he only wrote fiction.poor Gannon what he went threw just omg what his sister heard and saw Sunday. Just when ya think the news couldn’t get worse.
 
  • #808
IF the young man is HH's boyfriend then he is most likely from CS because that is where HH has been living. So is it likely that he is the driver of the truck back to SC? How did he get back to CS. If he is HH's age 17 or 18 then could he legally drive a rental van?
OR is he a cousin (son of one of the aunts) and likely did drive the truck back to SC carrying HH's bed and clothing. TS's personal belongings etc.
 
  • #809
Honestly, I feel like she thought she found the perfect spot. I’ve thought through this a bit because it seems she moved his body several times, and wanted to make sure the last time was the last time.

Her first spot in the woods, presumably, didn’t work because they were able to trace her movements, and she knew they would eventually find him. She needed to move him far away from any of the searches, and not tied to her in CO or S.C.

Water would be a bad idea-bodies end up floating, or drifting to shore and end up being found by fisherman or people walking the shorelines. It wouldn’t really help to wash away evidence, considering the weapons charges. Water might wash away DNA, but it won’t erase blunt force trauma or bullet/stab wounds that may have hit bone. I don’t think water was ever a thought for her.

The woods didn’t work the first time, and after the first near miss (IMO), too much danger of hikers or hunters or searchers coming across his remains.

She didn’t just throw him out along the side of the road as she drove along. When I look at the area, she chose pretty well, as far as places to leave a body go.

If she dropped him from the opposite side of the road from where authorities accessed the location, she saw how far down the hill went-rough terrain, rocky and very tall bridge/columns. To someone not familiar with that spot, it looks like a place nobody would really go-no reason for highway workers to trim weeds deep down in a dry ravine-looking area covered in rocks and boulders. No fisherman or boaters, because she dropped him in the dry rocky area up past the river.

If you’re looking at pics where they are pulled over retrieving Gannon’s body, it seems a lot more shallow or easy to spot. However, the last pic shows a more realistic view of what passers by would see. It’s a very tall bridge with a very deep ravine between the two sections, in the middle of a freeway. It’s not a pullout, or a place anyone has any reason to stop-unless of course your a monster dumping the body of a murdered little boy, or the construction crew we were lucky enough to have show up for bridge work.

Thank goodness she was unlucky enough to choose a location that happened to be right in the middle of an area under heavy construction (according to locals). That’s the only thing she didn’t really account for in this location. If not for that, he really may never have been found there.

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Oh wow, seeing what a typical drive by view looks like, seems to be that she did think it through and did think that her clever idea would be able to work in her favor. I had just seen the first pic before and the angle of that picture most of us assume that nobody, not even as dumb as Letecia, would put it right there. So thanks for that new view point!
 
  • #810
Still trying to understand these charges, I am sure Are they it has been discussed already but bear with me. Did she use all these weapons or it is just the way the charges are worded, in that one of them is used.

I feel if she had help it was not a relative at least not the ones that knew Gannon. If she was arrested based on someone turning her in then they most likely would have shared where she dumped the body, I guess the police got enough evidence on their ow.

They are in fact alleging use of all 3 of those weapons in the new charges. They're all sentence enhancers added to the original murder charges because of the level of violence involved. So she's now been charged with using a gun, a sharp instrument, and a blunt object in relation to the murder. These are all distinct charges rather than one weapons charge that covers a list of potentials.
 
  • #811
IF the young man is HH's boyfriend then he is most likely from CS because that is where HH has been living. So is it likely that he is the driver of the truck back to SC? How did he get back to CS. If he is HH's age 17 or 18 then could he legally drive a rental van?
OR is he a cousin (son of one of the aunts) and likely did drive the truck back to SC carrying HH's bed and clothing. TS's personal belongings etc.
I remember being 17 or 18 and if I had a boyfriend driving a vehicle especially on a long journey, I would have been right up there with him, not in the back seat of the other car. If I remember correctly, Spencer said T got in the car and one of the "aunts" got in the passenger side of the van and the man was in the driver seat. Then they all drove away.
 
  • #812
I wonder if the charges concerning the gun are based on her appearing to carry a soft rifle bag to the truck and a gun being missing from the home and not on autopsy results. I sure hope so.

IMO
I do think the pictures of her leaving the house carrying an object that looks like a gun is in fact a gun. And if there is a gun missing from the home that happens to match the caliber of the bullet wound(s) or bullet(s) found in Gannon, then that will be damming evidence in itself.

Depending on where she shot him, the bullet could remain in the body. Unless she was crazy enough to try to use a knife to dig out the bullet evidence. I wouldnt put that past her but I dont think she would be successful if the bullet went deep as that would be a difficult task. Plus there could be fragments of the bullet usually if it splintered inside the body. LE may be able to match up the chemical makeup of the bullet fragments with any remaining ammunition in the home if any is left there.

She sure made a lot of mistakes in this murder that is going to give LE plenty of evidence to convict her.
 
  • #813
I remember being 17 or 18 and if I had a boyfriend driving a vehicle especially on a long journey, I would have been right up there with him, not in the back seat of the other car. If I remember correctly, Spencer said T got in the car and one of the "aunts" got in the passenger side of the van and the man was in the driver seat. Then they all drove away.
Could have been aunt and her son (cousin) in the truck and other aunt and TS and HH in the back of the car.

It may have been early enough in this saga that her family only had, at most, suspicions and therefore headed out to SC. Wonder what they are saying among themselves now.
 
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  • #815
Still trying to understand these charges, I am sure Are they it has been discussed already but bear with me. Did she use all these weapons or it is just the way the charges are worded, in that one of them is used.

I feel if she had help it was not a relative at least not the ones that knew Gannon. If she was arrested based on someone turning her in then they most likely would have shared where she dumped the body, I guess the police got enough evidence on their own.

I told y’all from the beginning she had help. She is not smart or strong enough to do any of this alone. She is a pathetic moron.
 
  • #816
I think the whole murder was about CHA (covering her a**). I don't necessarily think that she wanted to do it, I think that she felt that she HAD to do it to CHA. I could be wrong.
Snipped by me.

Originally, I thought the same. She did something bad enough that she felt like the had to get rid of Gannon to cover up what she had done.

The more time that passes, however, I think it was a calculated killing. T has shown zero ounces of remorse, most notably in the courtrooms. She is a stone-cold killer who mapped out every bit of what she did.

MOO.
 
  • #817
Could have been aunt and her son (cousin) in the truck and other aunt and TS and HH in the back of the car.

It may have been early enough in this saga that her family only had, at most, suspicions and therefore headed out to SC. Wonder what they are saying among themselves now.

Im hoping LE has interrogated all of them by now and if they know whats best they should be able to provide bits of important information about her whereabouts during the trip to Florida. Most people that travel in a group would stay in contact with each other by phone during the trip. So even if she was the only one who took the detour to Florida then the other people would probably have heard some kind of excuse from her why she was a few hours behind them.

Lets hope the others are volunteering all kinds of tips to LE.
 
  • #818
Snipped by me.

Originally, I thought the same. She did something bad enough that she felt like the had to get rid of Gannon to cover up what she had done.

The more time that passes, however, I think it was a calculated killing. T has shown zero ounces of remorse, most notably in the courtrooms. She is a stone-cold killer who mapped out every bit of what she did.

MOO.
T looks at herself as a victim, everyone is out to get me. And as long as she sees herself in this way, she will never be able to see her true self. MOO
 
  • #819
Now that we know the back of head interview was recorded and shown at a later date, and now that we know she allegedly moved the body, possibly immediately after this interview...could the reason she chose to do this interview not facing the camera, be because she didn't want anyone to recognize her face as she drove the journey to Florida?

It's not like any witnesses wouldn't be able to put 2 and 2 together eventually... her actions prove all along she was never able to really think very far ahead ...imo...

I really like this theory. I thought it was odd for a person who behaves the way she does and is so self-centered in her comments and interviews to not want her face shown. I doubt she was worried that people wouldn't believe her -- I don't think she thinks that way.

She either knew that she was driving Gannon's body out of state and didn't want her face plastered everywhere, as you suggested. Or, she didn't have her face made-up and didn't want to go on camera without the glamour.
 
  • #820
That’s standard language (believe), and not a sign as to their degree of confidence.

Not a single thing points to him being killed anywhere but Colorado, and she can’t say anything to change that.

It's tough to keep the timeline in mind moving forward, but I believe the original charges were ALL based on evidence found in Colorado.

I pose two questions.

Might she have shot him last, with someone else's rifle, so as to attempt to make it appear as though someone else murdered him?

Is there any possibility someone else may have thrown that suitcase to it's final destination?
 
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