Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #42

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  • #241
Re: the rapist story, IMO it was just made up on the fly after her runaway story didn’t pan out. False rape allegations are extremely common in people with both histrionic and borderline PDs, and she already had a history of making them.

It served the purpose of shifting blame from her to another party, making her a victim, and in a twisted way, making her perceive herself as attractive/desirable.

She only added G to the scenario when her story (again) didn’t line up with the evidence. She had to come up with a reason why his blood was on the walls if he was kidnapped, and that’s what she thought of.

Remember, this is the same person who gave her full info to fakeliedetectortest.com. I wouldn’t assume she’s capable of any sort of logic or ahead of LE whatsoever.
 
  • #242
Here's a couple random thoughts I have.

The mention, by LS, of rape likely is for a reason. LS may have had a sexual encounter with someone, may have been discovered by GS?

Possibly GS was raped and had injuries that LE would discover in autopsy, that LS was attempting to explain away.

The fictitious characters may actually play a part, may have assisted in some manner, or may have been involved romantically, or otherwise involved in the murder coverup in some way.

The board was not a board, per se, rather appears to have been a squared piece of particle board, akin to plywood, perhaps 2x2 feet, or 2x3 feet, and was used to protect the interior of the Tiguan from blood evidence.

HH may have assisted in many parts of this entire mess, or may not have.

HH may not be cooperating on the advice of counsel.

MOO
 
  • #243
A very common size of particle board is 2ft wide by 4ft long. I wonder if this is where the confusion about a "2x4" is coming from?

Could be. Also early on in a picture of the garage it looked like there was an squarish area made of 2" x 4" boards. It looked to me like a platform one might use when painting an object to avoid getting paint on the garage floor. But as I recall, people had all kinds of ideas about those 2x4's. Also, in the Crime Online interview when TS said AS said a sock and bloody board were found, at that time many people thought it was a 2"x 4" board that could be used as a club. And once we get an idea in our head...
JMO
 
  • #244
Maybe because she hadn't told Al?

How this would have worked, I don't know, except I imagine until LE figured out who was really who and what role they played in the family; they probably didn't want to say too much to Al about anything LS said or did.



The problem I have with this is, I read really carefully with that in mind, and there were only 2 (if that) scant instances where LE found male DNA that was not immediately explained by their saying "which was Gannon's"; and that was a sampling from inside the spare carpet roll.



I'm still confused over why T thought it was useful to "lose" the Tiguan and pretend (or not pretend, even, neither makes much sense), not to know where it was parked. It would be one thing, if it was a scenario where someone had stolen it... but T wasn't trying to do that; and it seems to make an awful sense based upon speculation, that the Tiguan is where T stowed Gannon's poor broken body for days. :(

And yet, she thought it was somehow "getting ahead of the story" to tell CrimeOnline that "my Volkswagen has CarNet"... it sure does, sweetie. Handy for being traced by LE! GPS, however, is zero help at all in terms of disguising DNA evidence!
Affidavit reveals police timeline of Gannon Stauch's murder - KRDO

7:00 p.m.
Letecia picks up VW Tiguan she left earlier that morning at COS airport short term parking lot

7:02 p.m.
Receipt shows Letecia leaving COS airport with Tiguan

Between 7:02 to 12:00 a.m. (29th)
Detectives believe Letecia used the Tiguan to dump Gannon’s remains

Between 8:30 p.m. to 10:20 p.m.
Location data from Tiguan shows vehicle was in the area of Hwy 105/Perry Park Road in Douglas County, Colorado.

Phone data from Tiguan shows vehicle N or USAFA and S. of Douglas County.

9:16 p.m. to 9:28 p.m.
Data from Tiguan shows car driving into rural area near Highway 105 and Perry Park Road and then driving out.

-Of note, Harley’s phone shows near Stauch residence. Detectives don’t believe Harley was with Letecia during this time



10:26 p.m.
Harley leaves Stauch residence and detectives believe she picked up Letecia near Powers and Carefree

Wednesday January 29th, 2020

9:00 A.M.
Rental Kia Rio returned morning of January 29th 2020

Letecia was picked up by someone driving the White Jetta (presumably Harley)

11:30 a.m.
Surveillance video catches Tiguan at the Car Wash with potential blood on black bumper
 
  • #245
She probably figured she didn’t have any choice. Her mother told her to do something, so she did it. A lot of people stay loyal to their parents til the day they die. Hopefully she’s not too far gone from T’s influence, and hopefully she will have some support on her own. Maybe she’ll write a book.
MOO MOO MOO
ITA. Also, even if she did implicate her mother, she has no where to go but back to South Carolina and to live with and among family members who most likely would be very hard on her for implicating her mother. She was/is caught between a rock and a hard place.
 
  • #246
bbm
This ^^^
Items used to clean biological messes.
Think cleaning up after processing meat or cleaning fish.
Should have raised eyebrows and maybe it did ?
Just that we're not privy to anything discussed between the perp and HH.
Something to think about and question.
I could ask my 17 yo to pick me up the same supplies and he’d just do it. Kids don’t think about, is mom cleaning up a crime scene? They are too self centered at that age. Just look at the receipt, she bought the supplies but bought crap for herself as well. And probably without asking permission. There is nothing unusual about picking up typical household items.
 
  • #247
Yeah that’s right there was blood on the Tiguan SUV! So I guess she didn’t kill and dispose of him on the 4 hour trip. I wonder if the neighbors camera shows what time she backed Tiguan into the driveway to load his body. And where did she have the body stashed before the dump near 105.
From what I understood the AA to say G was in the Tiguan when she took the car to the airport. She rented a car, picked up AS, and later went back to get the Tiguan and that's when she dumped him. All under everyone's noses.
 
  • #248
Crazily enough, that is how her stepfather died. A link was posted in the last thread. It happened several years ago, but it did happen.
There's usually a bit of truth in every lie...

I can't believe she brought notes to keep her lies straight! Wow...
 
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For everyone considering HH's possible role in this, I respectfully ask you to consider the following:

Many WS members have shared their own painful experiences of growing up with a parent, generally a mother, who shares characteristics of LS. The gas lighting, the manipulation, the verbal abuse, the fear of doing something, anything, wrong. Some have shared that it took years to recognize and escape the behavior.

We know LS likes to hear herself talk. Copiously. Imagine what she has filled HH's head with all these years.

It shouldn't be surprising to anyone that HH was not cooperative with LE. It's what's she's likely been trained to do her entire life, covering for and abetting her mom's crazy.

I hope she has found some good guidance, and I do believe she will share everything she knows and it will be damning. It may take a long time, or she may have known all along that her mom is a monster and she's ready to be done with her and free of her.

I am very uncomfortable with any "blame" or "fault" being laid at HH's feet, either knowledge she has and hasn't shared, or any participation she may have had in TS's attempt to cover up because it's not like she was raised by a normal functioning mom.

MOO
A LOT of people aren’t raised by a normal functioning mom. I would go so far as to say most aren’t nowadays. But a person knows right from wrong. Keep in mind that the AA clearly states she wasn’t cooperating with LE. Yes we can blame LS for her upbringing and gaslighting. And??

HH wasn’t a stranger to GS. She knew he was GONE and she would not cooperate with LE? How does that work? Do you sit on your hands, not lift a finger to help find your little step brother? Good grief! She isn’t five! She will be 18 in three weeks!

I am sorry. When I read she was not cooperating all my sympathy for her was gone.
 
  • #251
MOO MOO MOO
ITA. Also, even if she did implicate her mother, she has no where to go but back to South Carolina and to live with and among family members who most likely would be very hard on her for implicating her mother. She was/is caught between a rock and a hard place.
A rock and a hard place is preferable to dead. Gannon is dead. And his step sister would not cooperate?
 
  • #252
Dbm
 
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  • #253
For everyone considering HH's possible role in this, I respectfully ask you to consider the following:

Many WS members have shared their own painful experiences of growing up with a parent, generally a mother, who shares characteristics of LS. The gas lighting, the manipulation, the verbal abuse, the fear of doing something, anything, wrong. Some have shared that it took years to recognize and escape the behavior.

We know LS likes to hear herself talk. Copiously. Imagine what she has filled HH's head with all these years.

It shouldn't be surprising to anyone that HH was not cooperative with LE. It's what's she's likely been trained to do her entire life, covering for and abetting her mom's crazy.

I hope she has found some good guidance, and I do believe she will share everything she knows and it will be damning. It may take a long time, or she may have known all along that her mom is a monster and she's ready to be done with her and free of her.

I am very uncomfortable with any "blame" or "fault" being laid at HH's feet, either knowledge she has and hasn't shared, or any participation she may have had in TS's attempt to cover up because it's not like she was raised by a normal functioning mom.

MOO

Thank you for this. I actually have tears in my eyes from your post. I don't have what it takes to go into my history with a mom very much like LS again (it's draining). But at 17, my loyalty was entirely to my mom, my parents, our family. It's crazy, I get that. I can't explain it. It's almost as if a parent like this sets themself up as a sort of god - not to be questioned, but to be obeyed, believed above all else (including plain-as-day facts), and with the sense that your survival and well-being is wrapped up in them... you are not a separate person, you are simply a part of them and they are always right.

Anyway, I hope for her own sake, HH is now cooperating with LE. I'm not at all surprised that she wasn't cooperating early on though. That girl has a lot to overcome internally, and I pray she is getting some kind of help. LE will get much farther with her if they understand her and can act with empathy toward her.
 
  • #254
I just reread the affidavit. Everybody is addressing the major parts and I don't have anything to add....but the part where she gives an excuse to her work for missing Monday....because her step father was hit and killed by a car? What?! Is that really what she could come up with? What happened to the good old stomach flu?
I thought she lost her job prior to killing Gannon.
 
  • #255
Yes, and the name itself “Eguardo” is unusual. Another “Zanny the nanny” where the name is so unusual, smhh

But there really is an Eguardo! Page 16 of the witness list!

ETA correct page #
 
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  • #256
Thanks for explaining. Though it does raise a question now about a house I showed 3 weeks ago w/a tombstone in the back yard...
Hopefully Fido lived a long happy life :eek:
 
  • #257
But there really is an Eguardo! Page 13 or 14 of the witness list!
I wonder if this Eguardo was the one she may have paid to take his body to Florida and throw him over the highway rail. She always has a bit of truth in all her wild stories.
 
  • #258
Here's a couple random thoughts I have.

The mention, by LS, of rape likely is for a reason. LS may have had a sexual encounter with someone, may have been discovered by GS?

Possibly GS was raped and had injuries that LE would discover in autopsy, that LS was attempting to explain away.

The fictitious characters may actually play a part, may have assisted in some manner, or may have been involved romantically, or otherwise involved in the murder coverup in some way.

The board was not a board, per se, rather appears to have been a squared piece of particle board, akin to plywood, perhaps 2x2 feet, or 2x3 feet, and was used to protect the interior of the Tiguan from blood evidence.

HH may have assisted in many parts of this entire mess, or may not have.

HH may not be cooperating on the advice of counsel.

MOO

Agree that the most likely use of particle board is to protect Tiguan hatch loading area.
Terrible to think, but LS saying that they were both raped with a foriegn object is probably more of her unintentional confessions of details of her violence toward GS.
 
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  • #259
Wasn't HH in ROTC? I would think she would want to cooperate with LE or her career is over. Or is it over anyway?

I have been wondering about the family member that visited and left with AS. LS's rage seemed to take on a new identity after this visit. I wonder if something happened to fuel more hatred and animosity towards G. Was the family member from AS's side or LH's?
 
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