Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

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  • #341
I'm sure this is not the only video LE has in their possession. Matter of fact, I think they have enough to splice together to create a movie of the week. Also, there is another house between RD's and AS's house. How do we know if after viewing RD's video, that LE didn't go to that house between and request their video, which could have been clearer? Or what if the house across the street provided a clearer view? We don't know. I have faith and trust they have a video that will prove their point and will be just the thing to hang LS by her thumbs quite nicely.

Moo, Moo

I agree we don't know. But according to RD, LE went to all the neighbors' houses to get their video on Sat Feb 1. They asked for the weekend up until the time Mon GS supposedly went missing. (They had already asked people to check 3-4 Jan 27.) It was after that RD looked at the older stuff himself and found the 10-2 stuff that he showed AS on Sun Feb 2 and AS called the FBI.

So it is very weird that a Feb 28 AA refers only to ambiguous video for such an important point. While all evidence they had at the time wasn't included, this is a big point.

I don't think they have video showing GS definitely returned. A Ring camera from across the street might have been aimed too low to capture all of their driveway. A Ring from next door likely wasn't pointed at their house. RD had a more extensive setup (in terms of camera directions) it seems to me although it didn't seem to produce clear visuals, at least not as clear as most Ring videos I've seen. JMO
 
  • #342
Thank you. What do you think about the data from the home security system?

That is a really good point and they talk about how they used that in combination with motion detection movements once she got back to the home. So it is possible that if they had two motion detections going off in both the basement and upstairs at the same time, then maybe that is how they are more confident that they both ended up going home. Or maybe LS was just running around the house so much that it appeared to be two people and could have been just her.

Its hard to say but I do agree LE is going to use their own home's security system in helping to prove movements of individuals. I think LE is keeping that close to their vest for now so they can use it at trial.

One interesting thing about affidavits is its a double edged sword to LE. They dont like to release too much so that they can build a strong case against the defendant and give it to defense only when they are totally ready with their case. However, they have to put enough in there to ensure a judge will agree to the arrest in the first place.

So its a tricky balancing game they have to play with those affidavits.
 
  • #343
I feel the same way -- AS has to be smothering under a cloud of guilt and regret. He's likely beating himself up over not recognizing the extent Tee would go to -- to protect herself and to get her way.

I also agree about HH. There could have been some dynamic in the home that pitted Tee and HH against GS. JMO. MOO. HH sure does show up assisting Tee a whole lot in the AA. I've known two blended families with wicked in-fighting between step-siblings.

Based on the AA, to me it is apparent that HH is in Tee's corner, and we are not privy to what went on in that house, so it's very difficult to judge it fairly.

What we do know is that Tee did something so horrible that she ought not see the light of day outside prison walls again. The trajectory of HH's life has been changed forever, and how she chooses to handle this situation will determine what kind of woman she eventually becomes.

I still want to know what a 17 year old was doing working on a school day -- the day GS likely perished.

This may have been answered by now and I dont have a link as it was on TS fb account which is now deleted,so take this as speculation but I believe HH graduated in June.
 
  • #344
IMO
For me, its two fold why I dont necessarily think he arrived home. First, I wasnt able to see him leave the vehicle but I clearly see the driver get out.
Secondly, the affidavit leaves room that it may be wrong in that regard.

Notice from AA #32 on Page #5, he says:
"After viewing the video, I cannot be sure if another person exited the vehicle or not....."

He does say it is "likely" but that is far from definite to me. It leaves room that they know they could be mistaken in that regard IMO.
I don't think they are mistaken in regard to Gannon arriving home. I think she is just acknowledging that they have no evidence on video that shows him coming home. They couldn't identify him leaving in the truck, either.

In the first 25 minutes upon arriving home there was movement on both floors. This suggests they were the only two people home. When Laina came home, she was immediately sent outside. When her daughter arrived home, she was sent to the store for cleaning supplies.

TS ensured that no other person was around during those few hours because she was likely cleaning up her mess after having brutally murdered Gannon in his bed.

I don't think she attacked him before the truck ride since if he had been bleeding there would have been blood found inside the truck. The amount of blood found on the walls, mattress, carpet, floor, and likely the bedspread and pillow points to a massive injury or injuries, specifically an injury to the head.

He may have been injured on Sunday night, but I don't think that included the gun, a blunt object, or a knife or other sharp object.

Imo
 
  • #345
Per the AA, this looks like the timeline regarding where Gannon's body was. Let me know if you think I got anything wrong!

Monday, January 27:
LS killed Gannon in his bed after 2:15pm. Put the particleboard into the trunk of the Tiguan to protect it. Loaded his body into a suitcase, wheeled it up the basement stairs to the garage, and then into the back of the Tiguan (atop the particleboard). A few drops of blood fell on the garage floor here. Gannon's body likely remained in the Tiguan until the 28th.

Tuesday, January 28:
At 8:30am LS rents a Kia in Colorado Springs, leaving Tiguan. 8:48 am Letecia texts and asks HH to move her car into the garage (parking over where a blood stain was). 8:50am Letecia picks up Al at airport. Tracking data shows the Tiguan later leave the Colorado Springs Airport at 7pm on the evening of the 28th. Then tracking shows between 9:15pm and 9:30pm, LS takes the Tiguan containing Gannon's body to the initial dump site where the particleboard was later found. This is likely when she first dropped off the suitcase with Gannon's body, along with the bloody particleboard.

Friday, January 31st:
Between 4 and 5:15pm according to the tracking device (AFTER the Spencer interview?*), Letecia returns to the dump site in her rented Nissan Altima. In the AA, it is supposed by LE she went back to the dump site to see if LE were there, survey how well hidden the body was. But this was before they found him 1400 miles away; now it seems obvious she RETRIEVED his body around 5pm on the 31st, leaving behind the bloody particleboard and a sock, which were found later on Feb. 15 when LE searched the area (after obtaining tacking data from the Tiguan and the Nissan Altima).

Sometime thereafter began the trip to the final dump site in Florida.

*This link shows the Spencer interview was posted at 2:41pm PST on the 31st (3:41pm in Colorado): VIDEO: Letecia Stauch, stepmom of Gannon Stauch, spoke to 11 News on Jan. 31. She was arrested March 2

Reading thru this timeline, how did she get to the airport to get the tiguan? They note she left short term parking at 7pm. They assume HH picked her up at 10:30, likely she parked the tiguan somewhere at a shopping center. They don't say HH dropped her off at the airport, they note her phone showing her at home. They don't note that she left short term parking in the Kia at 11ish, which would mean she drove herself.


So why didn't she drive herself in the kia, and if not HH, who drove her to get the tiguan? And what the heck is she telling people at this point in the search for GS other than "I have his body in my car and need to dispose" such that no red flags were raised by these folks?
 
  • #346
Correct me if I’m wrong on any of this.

TS is believed to have dumped Gannon’s body on the evening of the 28th. The tracking device put her back in the area on the evening of the 31st (between roughly 415 to 515).

The interview with Spencer was also on the 31st, and we know she had company (someone driving a moving truck).

So she must have left the interview, traveled to the dumpsite, and gathered Gannon’s remains then. My guess is that she hit the road immediately after that.
 
  • #347
Correct me if I’m wrong on any of this.

TS is believed to have dumped Gannon’s body on the evening of the 28th. The tracking device put her back in the area on the evening of the 31st (between roughly 415 to 515).

The interview with Spencer was also on the 31st, and we know she had company (someone driving a moving truck).

So she must have left the interview, traveled to the dumpsite, and gathered Gannon’s remains then. My guess is that she hit the road immediately after that.
With other people in tow. The man in the van and the "aunt". TS in the other vehicle with HH and another "aunt". Then someone else knows something. And I absolutely believe someone or some people do.
 
  • #348
I know it’s trivial at this point but how could they possibly be earning over $180k? A teacher assistant and a Reserve? Doesn’t seem possible.
Not trivial at all. I find it ironic that one half of the couple was posting on LinkedIn (mere months before) about attending a financial management class while the other in the midst of her step-son's missing person/MURDER investigation is bragging about income.

I would say there were ALL kinds of problems in that household.
 
  • #349
There was a story published that dogs were used in the house but apparently the reporter couldn't confirm the sighting.

Search for Gannon: Investigators spotted in Fountain and Douglas County on Day 18

We don't know if cadaver dogs went through the home, but if they were brought in, they must not have alerted.
If they had, that would have been mentioned in the affidavit.

If cadaver dogs were brought in and didn't alert anywhere in/around either the basement or the garage, that's another point against the theory that he was killed in his bedroom and then stowed in her trunk until the next day.

JMO.
 
  • #350
Not trivial at all. I find it ironic that one half of the couple was posting on LinkedIn (mere months before) about attending a financial management class while the other in the midst of her step-son's missing person/MURDER investigation is bragging about income.

I would say there were ALL kinds of problems in that household.
I agree. IMO LE will uncover all sorts of less than legal financial and other income-generating activities in LS’s life, going a long way back.
 
  • #351
Once in the house she quickly kills Gannon. 20 minutes is plenty of time and 4 hours is plenty of time to clean up.
rsabbm
I don't know that its plenty of time to clean up.
heres why.
the other day one of my usually adorable but snoopy fury friends scouted out the easter bunny stash :mad: and devoured an enormous easter egg including the foil.
was so sick she had probably about 4 projectile vomits in random places in my home.
it was all consuming cleaning up for 2 days to remove all traces and smell.
I was thinking about TS the whole time and wondering how frenzied the clean up must have been.
it makes more sense to me she had all night sunday and into Monday to get done what she had to.
that afternoon window just seems way too small for the crime and the clean up to satisfactory level ready to call police.
she didn't know when she rang at 7pm ish that they wouldn't arrive for 3 extra hours.
I still reckon she would have been a busy bee for every second waiting for them to rock up even then.

eta I'm not saying specifically she must have killed him so early but that blood bath in his room needed extensive time to pull together. and if there were droplets right through out the house. its just hard to see her having enough time in the arvo??

moo
 
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  • #352
I don't think they are mistaken in regard to Gannon arriving home. I think she is just acknowledging that they have no evidence on video that shows him coming home. They couldn't identify him leaving in the truck, either.

In the first 25 minutes upon arriving home there was movement on both floors. This suggests they were the only two people home. When Laina came home, she was immediately sent outside. When her daughter arrived home, she was sent to the store for cleaning supplies.

TS ensured that no other person was around during those few hours because she was likely cleaning up her mess after having brutally murdered Gannon in his bed.

I don't think she attacked him before the truck ride since if he had been bleeding there would have been blood found inside the truck. The amount of blood found on the walls, mattress, carpet, floor, and likely the bedspread and pillow points to a massive injury or injuries, specifically an injury to the head.

He may have been injured on Sunday night, but I don't think that included the gun, a blunt object, or a knife or other sharp object.

Imo
I could agree with this.
 
  • #353
Correct me if I’m wrong on any of this.

TS is believed to have dumped Gannon’s body on the evening of the 28th. The tracking device put her back in the area on the evening of the 31st (between roughly 415 to 515).

The interview with Spencer was also on the 31st, and we know she had company (someone driving a moving truck).

So she must have left the interview, traveled to the dumpsite, and gathered Gannon’s remains then. My guess is that she hit the road immediately after that.
Do we know what time the interview was? Could she have already gone back for the body by then? Which vehicle did she use and who was with her?

I'm wondering how she managed to retrieve the body, drive it all the way to Florida and dump it without anyone else knowing.
 
  • #354
Correct me if I’m wrong on any of this.

TS is believed to have dumped Gannon’s body on the evening of the 28th. The tracking device put her back in the area on the evening of the 31st (between roughly 415 to 515).

The interview with Spencer was also on the 31st, and we know she had company (someone driving a moving truck).

So she must have left the interview, traveled to the dumpsite, and gathered Gannon’s remains then. My guess is that she hit the road immediately after that.
BBM:

I still can't fathom why LE wasn't tailing TS at that point.

Water under the bridge, but it's frustrating, nonetheless.

JMO.
 
  • #355
I didn't attack anyone's opinion. I just asked why so many are so quick to dismiss what is given in the AA. Nothing wrong with that. I am interested in constructing theories based on LEO assumption that he did return home and sadly, all I see are theories that he didn't.

I don't think it's a question of many being quick to dismiss what's given in the AA. The AA contains two elements: one, the factual evidence they have collected and two, the assumptions/theories/conclusions they made, at that time, based on the evidence they had. No one that I have seen disputes the evidence. What is up for discussion and what many challenge are the assumptions they made at that time, based on that evidence. For example, at that time, they had no body, but based on the evidence they had, they concluded he had been murdered. That's valid: blood, proof a violence occurred, no one seeing him after that date, her changing stories, etc. They built a pretty good case. But they at no time in the AA make the statement that the volume of blood they found was inconsistent with life. Hence, it's possible that the violence that resulted in the blood wasn't the cause of his death. Fact: blood. Fact: no one has seen him since. Fact: last person to see him keeps changing stories. Fact: bedding changed from morning to evening. Conclusion: Murder in the bedroom. Conclusion: he must have returned home with her. But none of those facts alone proves a murder took place. That conclusion came as a result of all the facts added up together. And the conclusion he must have returned home was arrived at as a result of the first conclusion. Point: we can accept the facts and even accept some of the conclusions. But all of those theories are up for debate, just as they will be for a jury.
 
  • #356
I'm sure this is not the only video LE has in their possession. Matter of fact, I think they have enough to splice together to create a movie of the week. Also, there is another house between RD's and AS's house. How do we know if after viewing RD's video, that LE didn't go to that house between and request their video, which could have been clearer? Or what if the house across the street provided a clearer view? We don't know. I have faith and trust they have a video that will prove their point and will be just the thing to hang LS by her thumbs quite nicely.

Moo, Moo
I agree, I am expecting much more video.

@Ontario Mom did an excellent google street view walk through many, many threads ago. The number of ring cameras on Mandan Dr. alone was amazing.

The big difference between the ring cameras and Roderick Drayton's is that his records 24/7. It is not motion activated. It may have a limited view but no Eguardo, no Mr. Monday Mugshot (Quincy Brown - he has been featured in the Gazzette since Sept. 2019) AND most importantly no matter your leaning (if Gannon made it out of that truck again).

Gannon is never seen again on any video footage. The last known footage of Gannon is Monday leaving with his "caregiver".
 
  • #357
I've been in a house nearly identical to theirs so maybe I can give some insight.

JMO

Highly doubtful there's a wash tub anywhere in the house. The laundry room in likely a small square, half of which is eaten up by the washer and dryer.

Likely the utility room is fairly small too. The only storage in these 4-3 houses is generally under the staircase and in the utility room. Small or not, the utility room would make a GREAT place to find a suitcase and an even GREATER place to hide something temporarily, like bedsheets. Stashed in a leftover moving box.

I can imagine a scenario Sunday night that resulted in some serious blood and serious bandaging. Good to go. I can even see a braintrust thinking she could replace a square of carpet by removing it -- it would have been practically brand new and very likely the builder would've left a small roll of excess in the utility room, along with extra tile and housepaint.

Could be why the bed had been pulled out.

IF she did try to replace carpet, she would have quickly discovered that it's complicated! The rest of the room would lose its tension and rumple!

How ever this occurred, I'm fully confident they'll present a solid case. I'm imagining incriminating linens from the landfill, traffic cam footage by the mile, and Internet and cellular data to bury her alive.

Her defense attorneys will do what they've been trained to do. They'll represent her, they'll make sure her trial is fair. They'll expect to lose. They're not in the business like a few circus attorneys of spinning wild tales but in protecting their client from violations of the Constitution. She'll get a fair trial. The Prosecution will get a fair conviction. The world will remember Gannon, the happy young man who loved his parents, his sister and Sonic. And that wretched stepthing? We'll intentionally forget about her.

I look forward to that day

HMO
 
  • #358
We don't know if cadaver dogs went through the home, but if they were brought in, they must not have alerted.
If they had, that would have been mentioned in the affidavit.

If cadaver dogs were brought in and didn't alert anywhere in/around either the basement or the garage, that's another point against the theory that he was killed in his bedroom and then stowed in her trunk until the next day.

JMO.
If she had killed him in the bedroom and moved him quickly, would the dogs have picked it up that fast? How long after death can cadaver dogs pick up the scent? Is it immediate?
 
  • #359
We don't know if cadaver dogs went through the home, but if they were brought in, they must not have alerted.
If they had, that would have been mentioned in the affidavit.

If cadaver dogs were brought in and didn't alert anywhere in/around either the basement or the garage, that's another point against the theory that he was killed in his bedroom and then stowed in her trunk until the next day.

JMO.
Agreed!

BTW, just love your new Avatar!! You are a woman of your word :). I’m sure it wasn’t easy on you, and I have to wonder how big @MassGuy ‘s head has grown. Likely the size of a football :p:D
 
  • #360
Do we know what time the interview was? Could she have already gone back for the body by then? Which vehicle did she use and who was with her?

I'm wondering how she managed to retrieve the body, drive it all the way to Florida and dump it without anyone else knowing.
So the story hit the news at around 6pm on the 31st. You have to factor in the interview process itself, as well as the lag time between the interview and it being distributed.

So I think the interview came first, but there’s no way to know for sure.

Unless someone on here wants to message Spencer...

ETA: That’s East Coast time, so she definitely did the interview before returning to the scene.

Spencer Wilson on Twitter
 
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