Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

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Fwiw, I didn't think Gannon was a 'runaway' from the first presser.
The tone was somber and sad. :(
Imo.
 
  • #1,602
The earliest and biggest neon red flag for me was: LS did not immediately plead, in public, for the return of her dearly loved step-son.....especially since she eventually confessed that he was really abducted.
IMO
 
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rsbm

I mentioned this previously, but a couple of AA statements, which I read and take at face value, are what made me think Gannon did not return after the Monday PetCo trip.

AA 32: After viewing the video, I [Detective Jessica Bethel] cannot be sure if another person exited the vehicle or not, but I submit it is likely Gannon did return home with Letecia that afternoon.
Bethel is speaking about LS returning after the Monday PetCo trip.

AA 44: [after LS is in the house after the Monday PetCo trip] . . . there is motion activity both upstairs and downstairs on the ADT records.
This statement does not say there was motion upstairs and downstairs at the same time, does not say the motion was simultaneous.

My interpretation, others may read it differently.

Is simultaneous motion implied? I don’t think so, otherwise I think AA 32 would read more definitively that Gannon returned home with LS after the Monday PetCo trip.

IMO
The significant part to me is that this conclusion is drawn from a 25-minute period. (AA44: During that 25-minute period there is motion activity both upstairs and downstairs on the ADT records.)

It leads me to believe there is activity upstairs and downstairs and the conclusion is based on more than one motion event.

The sensors being set off in close enough intervals that it would be impossible for one person to trigger them.

I think the video is unclear and they were honest conceding to that in the AA. LE are using her own words/statement for the basis of him making it home along with the fact he is never seen on any other cameras.

Story 1: Runaway (he has to be home for this scenario).

Story 2: Eguardo Rape/abduction (again based on her own statement he has to be home).​

The other 4 stories (AA162) were intercepted via the wiretap and never reported directly to LE but are well disputed in the AA.

Like you, this is just my opinion and interpretation.
 
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The earliest and biggest neon red flag for me was: LS did not immediately plead, in public, for the return of her dearly loved step-son.....especially since she eventually confessed that he was really abducted.
IMO
The interview with the TV reporter was bizarre in the moment (no pleading with public was just one of the blaring red flags) but it is all the more bizarre now that we know in the days before that interview:
* she murdered a child
* hid the child
* washed the car which transported the murdered child
* kept the whereabouts of her car from her husband and LE
* said Gannon went to a friend's house
* said she was raped by Eguardo
* said she and Gannon both were raped by Eguardo
* said rapist Eguardo demanded a suitcase and cardboard box
* said Eguardo threw Gannon across the room
* said she hit her head once, possibly twice, during Eguardo assault
(the Quincy Brown rape story wasn't told until later)
* faked chest pain and shortness of breath during LE interview
* sneaked out of the hospital without telling LE

Despite those stories, during the interview, she:
* asked why are people saying Gannon is dead
* said people are complaining she didn't help search, but there was a reason for what she was doing
* said people will apologize to her when Gannon comes home
* asked that her daughter vouch that Gannon was alive on Sunday night
* said LE mistreated her during interview at police station

After the interview, she drove to the dump site, retrieved the body of a child she murdered, and drove with the body to Florida, imo.

BIZARRE.

jmo
 
  • #1,605
I care about what they do, not what they say. What they do, tells you all you need to know. What they Tweet, and what they tell reporters is one thing, but the AA is based on actual evidence and reason.

Once again TY for explaining this process. With this case being the first time for me reading an AA I find myself intrigued.
My whole heart wishes it wasn’t at the life of a precious soul like G.

I am curious as a new WSer ️‍♀️ at what percentage would a case be more understood by just watching what LE does combined with understanding the AA over adding in what is said to media?

Yes I understand all senses are put to use to find answers but more curious the highest percentage used tools. TYIA
 
  • #1,606
Its also some kind of dissonance to be okay with LE misleading the public on day 1 and also trust the AA to be written in full and frank good faith.

^^^^
 
  • #1,607
To me, the emphasis is on the going back and forth. Gannon didn't go back and forth. She did.

But, that's not a major point in all this.

I am interested in figuring out why she said the things she said (Quincy Brown laid down in front of her car? I'd love to know where she came up with that insane idea. Did she once lay down in front of someone's car?!) Her stories both revolt me and intrigue me (no worries - I have zero respect for liars).

Mainly, though, I just want evidence compiled that proves her guilt. My interest in her stories is secondary to that.

jmo

Quincy Brown, IMO, was mentioned because he was profiled on the news.

When she said he laid down in front of her car, maybe she was thinking back to her stepdad's actual death, when he was struck by a vehicle ( I know he had a bike but am not sure if he was actually riding it at the time.

She had just used his death as an excuse for not going to work, even if it did happen in 2004, I believe it was . She must think about it often.
 
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The significant part to me is that this conclusion is drawn from a 25-minute period. (AA44: During that 25-minute period there is motion activity both upstairs and downstairs on the ADT records.)

It leads me to believe there is activity upstairs and downstairs and the conclusion is based on more than one motion event.

The sensors being set off in close enough intervals that it would be impossible for one person to trigger them.

I think the video is unclear and they were honest conceding to that in the AA. LE are using her own words/statement for the basis of him making it home along with the fact he is never seen on any other cameras.

Story 1: Runaway (he has to be home for this scenario).

Story 2: Eguardo Rape/abduction (again based on her own statement he has to be home).​

The other 4 stories (AA162) were intercepted via the wiretap and never reported directly to LE but are well disputed in the AA.

Like you, this is just my opinion and interpretation.


Wait, I'm confused. Are you suggesting multiple people set off the motion events? In other words, TS and Gannon were coexisting on multiple floors during the 25 minute period when they returned home?

I interpreted the AA to mean he was killed within minutes of returning home (motion downstairs), and TS running up and down several times setting the motion sensors off in both areas while she scrambled to clean and contain.

If I understand you correctly, than you are in the camp that Gannon did not return home from the 4 hr trip, or you believe he was killed later in the afternoon, perhaps after Laina came home and was sent outside?
 
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Takes us down an interesting path when LE show disdain in this way.

Policing is by consent and while LE are allowed to lie in interviews (lets not go there), a license to mislead the public is surely not a direction we want our trusted LE to be going? That takes us to some dark dark places. How would we like USA to be reporting covid stats in the same way as China do?? Thats the thick end of the same wedge.

Indeed there is no need to pander to mass or social media. "No comment at this time." Simple.

Reporting erronus facts in an effort to mislead the public about a pandemic that affects the entire nation is very different then not being entirely truthful about a criminal investigation that is only of public interest. Especially when it could jeapordize the entire investigation.

The only people that truly NEED the details are Gannon's family. They are the ones that are directly affected by this.

God forbid anything like this happen to any one of us. If it does, I hope LE "lies" as much as they need to in order to bring justice, and not feel the need to release info just cuz people want the salacious details.
 
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Once again TY for explaining this process. With this case being the first time for me reading an AA I find myself intrigued.
My whole heart wishes it wasn’t at the life of a precious soul like G.

I am curious as a new WSer ️‍♀️ at what percentage would a case be more understood by just watching what LE does combined with understanding the AA over adding in what is said to media?

Yes I understand all senses are put to use to find answers but more curious the highest percentage used tools. TYIA
I follow a lot of cases on here, to include missing persons ones. During that first press conference, the language was unlike anything I had seen before in a typical missing child case.

As soon as the sheriff refused to express optimism that Gannon would be found alive, coupled with his avoidance of the question in regards to TS’ level of cooperation, I knew what this was.

Later on, when they maintained that their goal was to bring Gannon home alive and that this was not a criminal investigation, their actions were not in congruence with their language.

The district attorney was at the residence, as were crime scene personnel, which does not happen when a child has run away.

So what they say can be telling, as can what they don’t say. Their actions say more though, especially when the two don’t jibe.

The more cases you follow, the more context you have for what you are seeing and hearing.
 
  • #1,614
Hello, I am a first-time poster. I joined Web Sleuths to follow Gannon's case and read the first 16 threads verbatim, thinking I might eventually catch up. When LS was arrested and Gannon's body was found, I knew that was a futile effort.

I read the arrest affidavit, and what astounded me, if true, is that LS drove to the airport to pick up AS on Jan. 28 with possibly Gannon's body in the trunk of her Tiguan. Then she left the Tiguan in the short-term parking lot and rented a car to drive AS home. During the ride home with AS, how could she act worried, knowing Gannon was in the Tiguan's trunk back at the airport? How could she calmly drop AS off at home, make excuses, and then retrieve her Tiguan to dispose of Gannon's body in southern Douglas County that same day in the evening?

If LE is correct and Gannon was murdered after 2:15 p.m. Jan. 27, I conclude that the four-hour shopping trip was actually a cover for LS to scout potential burial spots for Gannon. How horrible to think LS took Gannon along for this purpose! He had no idea during that car ride that he would be murdered in just a few hours.

There were other incredible facts revealed in the affidavit, like the false rape allegations and the attempt to get a fake polygraph test. I would have loved to see LS's face when she found out the polygraph company refused to email the fake report because of the nature of her desired questions and answers.

Those are just a few of my thoughts after reading the arrest affidavit. LE still has a long way to go, getting ready to prosecute LS. The biggest thing LE has to prove is exactly how LS removed Gannon's body from Douglas County and took it to Florida. I'm sure you all have already discussed various ways she could have done this.

Now, I've got more reading to do.

Welcome, Panda Steps!
 
  • #1,615
I don’t know what happened that night or day but I don’t believe there was a fire that burned any large part of carpet by Gannon . I believe if there was carpet missing or destroyed it was her attempting yet again to cover up what she did. I believe those internet searches were intentional and she knew or hoped Al would see at them.

she was without a doubt an emotional abuser to Gannon . I believe what mostly likely occurred in that house started out as common or usual violence or abuse on Gannon to take out her frustration even when it had zero to do with Gannon . He just happened to be an easy target for her. Then she went too far and from that point she went in to over drive on how to cover it up even if it meant killing him. She believed people would believe her .

I’ve lived in a house like that and sadly you just want (no matter how old you get) for the abuser to love you, to like you, you want to make them happy even though they terrify you. I was Gannons age and terrible mental and unimaginable physical violence on a child so small occurred daily. I never told anyone except my mom and even then I struggled to explain and she stayed and it just got worse . To this day that abuser thinks that even as a child at starting at the age of 7 and 8 I was “a bad kid” and whatever he did to me I deserved .

I was warned not to tell anyone . I was told no one would believe me. I was told they’d pick up and dial CPS for me and take me to jail instead. I was told if I ran away they’d hunt me and kill me (I believe they would’ve ) . I also can very very easily see how one of those times he could’ve went too far (literally nothing had to set him off) . He could’ve done one of his usual “fun” games of picking me up by my throat , strangling me, holding me in the air , throwing me into a wall and at that point I’m down on the ground again. He’d kick , pull hair. My point is there could’ve been injuries that he or they couldn’t explain away. His job was LE. At that point it’s very easy to know what he would’ve done. He would’ve finished it. Packed me away and got hid of me and told everyone I ran away.

I think there’s a high possibility bc of his job and the town we live in that would've never been questioned at all. Bc he’s great at his job. Upstanding citizen. Great all around guy. In his mind then and now it would’ve been justified . He believes the stories he tells even when others tell him he’s wrong .

I’m really sorry. I need to have distance from this case right now. I feel tremendously guilty in doing that.

I know many people won’t understand this but I always try to remember we are all Gods children and it’s not only us who feels pain The Lord does as well bc we are all his children . Being a parent to two children I know I’d do anything for .I’m glad it’s not my job to judge to decide someone’s fate . Forgiving is a lot easier than forgetting. I am for “justice” but even when it comes it’s so hollow bc it doesn’t fix it, it doesn’t bring anyone back, it doesn’t undo the terrible unthinkable crimes. I do hope and pray she gets life in prison but she’s always going to be the type to not take accountability, to make herself the victim even when her victim was a defenseless child. Everyone involved in this needs prayer.

@SwiftTiff thank you for having the courage and strength to make this post. It impacted me so strongly and gave an important perspective. I am so sorry for what you had to endure, but am grateful for your strength and endurance to survive and grow up to have children of your own and positively impact the world.

((HUGS)) to you!
 
  • #1,616
The interview with the TV reporter was bizarre in the moment (no pleading with public was just one of the blaring red flags) but it is all the more bizarre now that we know in the days before that interview:
* she murdered a child
* hid the child
* washed the car which transported the murdered child
* kept the whereabouts of her car from her husband and LE
* said Gannon went to a friend's house
* said she was raped by Eguardo
* said she and Gannon both were raped by Eguardo
* said rapist Eguardo demanded a suitcase and cardboard box
* said Eguardo threw Gannon across the room
* said she hit her head once, possibly twice, during Eguardo assault
(the Quincy Brown rape story wasn't told until later)
* faked chest pain and shortness of breath during LE interview
* sneaked out of the hospital without telling LE

Despite those stories, during the interview, she:
* asked why are people saying Gannon is dead
* said people are complaining she didn't help search, but there was a reason for what she was doing
* said people will apologize to her when Gannon comes home
* asked that her daughter vouch that Gannon was alive on Sunday night
* said LE mistreated her during interview at police station

After the interview, she drove to the dump site, retrieved the body of a child she murdered, and drove with the body to Florida, imo.

BIZARRE.

jmo

Just when I thought it couldn't seem more bizarre, you make this list and it does!o_O
 
  • #1,617
Once again TY for explaining this process. With this case being the first time for me reading an AA I find myself intrigued.
My whole heart wishes it wasn’t at the life of a precious soul like G.

I am curious as a new WSer ️‍♀️ at what percentage would a case be more understood by just watching what LE does combined with understanding the AA over adding in what is said to media?

Yes I understand all senses are put to use to find answers but more curious the highest percentage used tools. TYIA

Things get more interesting after you've followed enough cases to recognize the common denominators when LE uses the press to smoke out the truth.

"Criminal Minds" is TV fiction but you can learn a great deal about the FBI's media strategy by watching.
 
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Dbm duplicate
Its also some kind of dissonance to be okay with LE misleading the public on day 1 and also trust the AA to be written in full and frank good faith.

I am not sure how you feel mislead. Investigations are confidential.
EPSO detectives having suspicions, like everyone had of LS in early days was based on LS's behavior and their professional experience with other parents in the same situation.
By 1/30, she was looking pretty crazy and there was evidence starting to be processed from the Tiguan.
EPSO had blood, they had a crazy alibi, posibly true explanations for blood, a recently washed car and a highly public neighbor video that was inconclusive whether Gannon returned or not.
Seems like no comment is their best response.

I am seeing some unexplained slowness getting the car data that ultimately led to Perry Park Rd.

1/27 reported runaway
1/28 things not adding up
1/28 Tiguan trip to Perry Park Rd.
1/29 LS runs away from EPSO interview via hospital visit.
1/29 Tiguan impounded.
1/31 Rental trip to Perry Park Rd.
2/2 RD shows AS his video and reports it
2/4 EPSO presser. PIO basically says the public scrutiny can negatively impact the case and no comment.
2/12 search moves to Perry Park
2/15 they find evidence - board and sock - further process the home.
3/2 arrest.
 
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I am sure TS is not having a very Happy Easter weekend. What she chose to do has destroyed the family dynamics for all of them. Gannon's family will never be the same and neither will hers.

Her daughter had already lost her father and now has to come to the realization of what her mother did. It may take her awhile but the evidence is overwhelming. I hope she chooses the right path.

I hope AS and LH can be friends for the sake of their daughter. This is incredibly difficult for her to lose her best friend, her big brother. The other little girl that LH has will never know the joys of having a big brother to protect her. I hope these two little girls can find joy in each other.

The whole thing is so sad and could be different if only TS had just walked away.
 
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I don’t know what happened that night or day but I don’t believe there was a fire that burned any large part of carpet by Gannon . I believe if there was carpet missing or destroyed it was her attempting yet again to cover up what she did. I believe those internet searches were intentional and she knew or hoped Al would see at them.

she was without a doubt an emotional abuser to Gannon . I believe what mostly likely occurred in that house started out as common or usual violence or abuse on Gannon to take out her frustration even when it had zero to do with Gannon . He just happened to be an easy target for her. Then she went too far and from that point she went in to over drive on how to cover it up even if it meant killing him. She believed people would believe her .

I’ve lived in a house like that and sadly you just want (no matter how old you get) for the abuser to love you, to like you, you want to make them happy even though they terrify you. I was Gannons age and terrible mental and unimaginable physical violence on a child so small occurred daily. I never told anyone except my mom and even then I struggled to explain and she stayed and it just got worse . To this day that abuser thinks that even as a child at starting at the age of 7 and 8 I was “a bad kid” and whatever he did to me I deserved .

I was warned not to tell anyone . I was told no one would believe me. I was told they’d pick up and dial CPS for me and take me to jail instead. I was told if I ran away they’d hunt me and kill me (I believe they would’ve ) . I also can very very easily see how one of those times he could’ve went too far (literally nothing had to set him off) . He could’ve done one of his usual “fun” games of picking me up by my throat , strangling me, holding me in the air , throwing me into a wall and at that point I’m down on the ground again. He’d kick , pull hair. My point is there could’ve been injuries that he or they couldn’t explain away. His job was LE. At that point it’s very easy to know what he would’ve done. He would’ve finished it. Packed me away and got hid of me and told everyone I ran away.

I think there’s a high possibility bc of his job and the town we live in that would've never been questioned at all. Bc he’s great at his job. Upstanding citizen. Great all around guy. In his mind then and now it would’ve been justified . He believes the stories he tells even when others tell him he’s wrong .

I’m really sorry. I need to have distance from this case right now. I feel tremendously guilty in doing that.

I know many people won’t understand this but I always try to remember we are all Gods children and it’s not only us who feels pain The Lord does as well bc we are all his children . Being a parent to two children I know I’d do anything for .I’m glad it’s not my job to judge to decide someone’s fate . Forgiving is a lot easier than forgetting. I am for “justice” but even when it comes it’s so hollow bc it doesn’t fix it, it doesn’t bring anyone back, it doesn’t undo the terrible unthinkable crimes. I do hope and pray she gets life in prison but she’s always going to be the type to not take accountability, to make herself the victim even when her victim was a defenseless child. Everyone involved in this needs prayer.

SwiftTiff, I'm sorry you had to endure so much and that you've had to watch your abuser skate by and maintain his reputation. I'm thankful you find yourself here on WS where many carry memories of abuse and have such empathy for hurting children, those who died and those who have grown to adulthood.

I was fortunate to have a mother who put her body between me and my father though fifteen-year-old me did have to threaten him with a butcher knife to save her from getting her throat cut.

You and I and others could have been permanently broken but here we are - strong at the broken places, loving our children and each other.

I do pray for people like T and our fathers but believe they need to offer repentance and still suffer punishment for their deeds. Permanently isolating them in a penitentiary is the least we can do for future children who could come their way.
 
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