Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

[MassGuy]

Yes, and they hadn't found his body yet.
Wonder if there will be an update ?
Like I said... it's puzzling.

We’ll get a much clearer picture at the preliminary hearing. As the next status conference is scheduled for June, I think the earliest that will happen is July (I’d bet it will be quite a bit later though).

At that point, the prosecution will present evidence that includes everything in the affidavit, as well as the results of outstanding testing results and information gleaned from his body.

If anything has changed in regards to the prosecution’s narrative, we should hear about it then.

 

[Boxer]

I don't know what my feeling are on this.

This affidavit was written with a no body found principle behind it.

They had not found the suitcase in Florida.

The AA assumes two projections:

1. The assumption is that animals carried him away or parts of his body away.
2. The other assumption is that they had to come home together for the murder to have taken place and the 25-minute allotment they prescribe.

I say assume because:

# 32 states that Jessica. "The vehicle returned at or about 2:19 and Leticia exited the vehicle. After viewing the video, I cannot be sure if another person exited the vehicle or not, but I submit Gannon likely did return home with Leticia that afternoon."

MOO after watching GHs shown on the video about the shadow I have been fairly sure Gannon came home. In part it is the timing, the shadow below is just exactly the pace a kid would exit.

Also on rewatching I noticed you can see a section of light through the side windows. The light is obscured a few times before LS gets out, MOO looks like the driver is leaning between seats to the back or possibly front passenger seat.

 

[MassGuy]

Marking my spot.

One of the bigger puzzles for me is that it looked like he never emerged from that truck.
I'm guessing video security cams from someone else's home caught him leaving the truck and LE are keeping it hidden until the trial ?
They're probably making sure this is the end of the line for the perp and she's going nowhere !

Had there been video confirming his arrival home, we almost certainly would have heard about it in the affidavit.

They reached that conclusion, likely based on the blood evidence in Gannon’s bedroom. I can’t imagine them leaving that out, as it’s quite important.

 

[MsBetsy]

I think she stewed over having to call off work (orientation) due to Gannon not able to go to school. She was googling stuff early early that morning and it looked like she wanted to go but found that under 12 is a no no by law to leave at home alone.

ETA: Or may be she really didn't want to go to work but googled that to show Al. But she definitely was googling that topic.

Or maybe she didn't want her husband to know that she had been fired so she used Gannon as the reason why she was staying home.

 

[pcrum12]

Colorado doesn't have an age to be left home alone but a recommendation. Age 12 is a generally accepted guideline, but many factors have to be considered. Ultimately, it is up to the discretion of the parents. Edited: to add I live in Colorado and mom of 3 boys, so yes i researched when they were a little younger, they are now 15, 12, 9...

Also, wasn't she fired the Friday prior to the Monday when she decided to take his life? I could have my days of the week confused.

She did google it and may have seen just as you and I that the recommendation was no younger than 12. Take from that what you want - Who knows. As to the job, she did text the employer at 430 am that she wouldn't be in because her already dead stepfather was killed. I believe there's been more mention here on the board about whether she was already fired or not so not really sure if that text was actually for the employer's benefit or Al's. But she did text them. All in the AA. Again, who knows.

 

[pcrum12]

I may be mis-remembering, but I thought the job she "lost" was one that she didn't actually have yet. I thought it was a job offer or a position she was being considered for, but they rescinded the offer after finding discrepancies in her resume/history or something.

I think she was suppose to attend an orientation.

 

[NCWatcher]

I may be mis-remembering, but I thought the job she "lost" was one that she didn't actually have yet. I thought it was a job offer or a position she was being considered for, but they rescinded the offer after finding discrepancies in her resume/history or something.

Different sources have reported different firing times.

This one says she was fired on Friday which led some on WS to speculate the job loss led TS to "snap."

District 20 pulled job offer from Letecia Stauch 3 days before stepson disappeared - KRDO/

But other outlets have reported she wasn't fired until after GS went missing. For example,

Gannon Stauch case: More than 107 search warrants filed in Gannon Stauch case/

In this report a district spokesperson says TS didn't report to work after Friday Jan 24 but wasn't fired until Jan 29. The spokesperson couldn't rule out that maybe TS had heard she might be fired earlier.

Academy D-20 rescinded job offer to Letecia Stauch after stepson went missing/

This one also says she was fired on the 29th, 2 days after the disappearance. This link also has the letter sent to parents.

All sources say she was hired as a teacher. She hadn't started teaching but had started the required orientation. All sources state the offer was "rescinded" so I think that means she was past just being considered for the position. I'm also not sure she'd have been asked (or permitted) to attend orientation if it wasn't assumed to be a done deal. But discrepancies arose.
JMO

 

[crhedBngr]

Here for Gannon.

 

[Warwick7]

MOO after watching GHs shown on the video about the shadow I have been fairly sure Gannon came home. In part it is the timing, the shadow below is just exactly the pace a kid would exit.

Also on rewatching I noticed you can see a section of light through the side windows. The light is obscured a few times before LS gets out, MOO looks like the driver is leaning between seats to the back or possibly front passenger seat.

I don't see a shadow.

 

[Cindizzi]

Oops! You are right... it is too late to go back and correct my post where I said it was the Crime Online interview. Sorry, all!

No worries
It’s hard to keep straight with all of LS’s statements, social media posts and various interviews. Speaking of Leigh Egan with Crime Online, she will be talking to Tricia tonight on the Websleuths’s live!

 

[OldLadyBlues]

Yeah, I thought that she was notified on Friday before the murder. The affidavit also states that she was an assistant teacher so I'm not sure what that means, either. I've heard of teacher's assistant, teachers aide , or consultant teacher, (special ed) but not "assistant teacher."

Imo

Thanks, @MsBetsy . Gotta keep those lies up for AS, doncha know. I got the distinct impression that AS knew all about her lying habit, but perhaps just didn't know that extent of it and I think it was the reason why the marriage was in trouble. She's special, that one. After reading the AA, she should have just quit while she was ahead and confessed.

Moo, Moo

 

[NervousNellie]

AA, Page 4, #27---She told Al, "I'm just going to give them an excuse at work and stay home with him."

Did I miss it or was this a part of her lies? Where in the heck did she work? Or had she been fired by then?

I keep thinking about this sentence that I bolded. You don't need to "give them an excuse." Right there tells you she is a not just a lying liar, but one that will tell a lie when the truth would serve her better!! (So I guess that makes her a colossally stupid liar.)

I think "sick kid" is about the best work excuse ever (says the woman with no kids); why does she need to "give them an excuse"? And then to go with the highly dramatic story about her stepfather (which was true years ago, but not that morning!).

 

[Boxer]

I don't see a shadow.

Have you watched on a large screen? The shadows happen just before LS opens her door and while she is descending.

Even if these shadows are video glitches, which I dont think, the shadows are enough for a doubt about the statement "he did not return."
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[oviedo]

Had there been video confirming his arrival home, we almost certainly would have heard about it in the affidavit.

They reached that conclusion, likely based on the blood evidence in Gannon’s bedroom. I can’t imagine them leaving that out, as it’s quite important.

I'm trying to remember in the PF trial and AA - I don't think we knew about the images of both PF and KB in front of the townhouse that day (from the AA) did we? Didn't we find that out during the trial when they started introducing all of the evidence? I can't recall exactly but if that was the case, there is a chance they didn't include everything in the AA, right? Just enough to nail her for the charges?
JMO

 

[Warwick7]

New thread and I still have several pages of the last one to read.

I'm particularly bothered by the bed being away from the wall Monday morning, presumably before his murder.

Think this through with me... The bed was moved to clean up something... smoke damage? Candle wax? Vomit? Feces?

I think this cleaning event was:

1. Done late Sunday night

2. Not to clean up blood from his murder, but possibly blood from some other injury (and possibly not blood at all, but one of the options mentioned above).

The bed was left pulled away from the wall overnight so the area could dry.

The bed was still pulled out from the wall at the (later) time of his murder and this is part of the reason so much blood was found lower than the bed.

I think we are looking at two separate events of the same area being cleaned.

from the AA:
"#55. Another photo was recovered from Letecia's cell phone that shows his bed was not pushed directly against the wall by the head of the bed. This photo articulates the ability for blood to get onto the walls and floor in the corner of the bedroom. Mr. Stauch stated the positioning of the bed is unusual, and the bed is usually pushed against the wall. "

This is very very plausible.

Then throw in that for the last year there could have been other incidents of bleeding from a beating.

"There was some in the garage. But there are accidents all the time, nosebleeds.
Gannon walked around sometimes with blood on his arm from nosebleeds.”

 

[Boxer]

Dbm

 

[Warwick7]

Colorado doesn't have an age to be left home alone but a recommendation. Age 12 is a generally accepted guideline, but many factors have to be considered. Ultimately, it is up to the discretion of the parents. Edited: to add I live in Colorado and mom of 3 boys, so yes i researched when they were a little younger, they are now 15, 12, 9...

Also, wasn't she fired the Friday prior to the Monday when she decided to take his life? I could have my days of the week confused.

The AA said the text came before she was fired.

 

[Warwick7]

I think she stewed over having to call off work (orientation) due to Gannon not able to go to school. She was googling stuff early early that morning and it looked like she wanted to go but found that under 12 is a no no by law to leave at home alone.

ETA: Or may be she really didn't want to go to work but googled that to show Al. But she definitely was googling that topic.

I'm not sure what to make of get Google searches.

At one point I thought she locked her phone because she was going to leave him home. She didn't want him to be able to call out. But I changed that when I realized he could just go next door for help.

 

[MsBetsy]

Had there been video confirming his arrival home, we almost certainly would have heard about it in the affidavit.

They reached that conclusion, likely based on the blood evidence in Gannon’s bedroom. I can’t imagine them leaving that out, as it’s quite important.

Yes, the only video LE mentioned was from the camera several homes away, and she said she could not positively identify Gannon, but believes he did arrive home.

As soon as they arrived home there was activity on both floors during the next 25 minutes. We don't know what occurred during that time but whatever it was either escalated to murder or was the act of murder itself.

It seems that video evidence cannot always be reliable, unless it's clear and captures every move.

There was some documentary on netflix where investigators were explaining how they analyze video evidence. They explained that that they have to "investigate" the video evidence as it's not always as clear cut or as definitive as it may seem.

Imo

 

[MassGuy]

I'm trying to remember in the PF trial and AA - I don't think we knew about the images of both PF and KB in front of the townhouse that day (from the AA) did we? Didn't we find that out during the trial when they started introducing all of the evidence? I can't recall exactly but if that was the case, there is a chance they didn't include everything in the AA, right? Just enough to nail her for the charges?
JMO

You’re right, I just checked. It made mention of Frazee entering the condo, but didn’t mention that Kelsey was with him, or the number of times he was captured on camera.

They definitely left a lot out, and more evidence will be developed up until trial (results of testing, autopsy, etc).

It’s already a slam dunk though.