Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

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  • #81
The particleboard with GS blood was found on Saturday February 15.

Here is news video from Monday February 17.

Reporter says “we don’t know what, if anything, was seen here today or over the weekend , but I will tell you this, after being here the past several days, that it looks a lot different in that same spot and earlier they did not push us back this far.”

Reporter spoke to Cynthia Coffman, the Stauch family spokesperson and Ms. Coffman says AS and LH only see and hear what the public does. Then, Nicole the reporter says “ we sent them these videos today”. Ugh that breaks my heart to imagine them watching this over and over at home. :(

Ms. Coffman says “ Al & Landen are sticking together “. Hope LS was watching. No, I’m not implying together in any sense other than grieving parents.

Just a couple observations. JMO

Investigators focus on specific location as search for Gannon Stauch reaches third week
 
  • #82
I thought LE said the bedspread appeared to be a different one, if not the sheets and pillow, as well. Imo
My comment was in response to someone that suggested LS had HH buy new blankets and sheets for the bed while she was at the store.
 
  • #83
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I respect and like you MsBesty. But I do not like Gray.
Ramble ramble ramble ramble....
My own opinion.
And I do not like his analysis. He didnt prove to me there was a shadow.
You don't have to see it on a GH video.
YT "Gannon truck video" and choosebthebfull video.
Watch between 6:15 and 6:45, from just prior to LS opening her door till she walks toward house. Within that time frame you will see the shadows that create the uncertainty under the truck below the back passenger side door.
 
  • #84
Thanks, @MsBetsy . Gotta keep those lies up for AS, doncha know. I got the distinct impression that AS knew all about her lying habit, but perhaps just didn't know that extent of it and I think it was the reason why the marriage was in trouble. She's special, that one. After reading the AA, she should have just quit while she was ahead and confessed.

Moo, Moo
The AA may have left some holes that she felt was good enough for a defense. Frankly, while luminol lit up on her car, the lab results all came back negative for blood. Also no blood tied to Gannon in the rental car or in the Nissan Pathfinder that AS normally drove. At the time she was arrested the body was not found and was possibly never going to be found. She knew it was in Florida, but the AA speculated that it was in Colorado having been scattered by animals.

IMO, the most incriminating thing in the AA was her god awful story of Eguardo and being raped, then Gannon getting kidnapped (after Eguardo demanded a suitcase and cardboard box). And that was actually a prepared alibi that she had written down notes for. Wow. I would speculate that if she had stuck to her story of a runaway then she would have had a chance in court, at least before the body was found.
 
  • #85
MassGuy said:
snipped by me...
We’ll get a much clearer picture at the preliminary hearing. As the next status conference is scheduled for June, I think the earliest that will happen is July (I’d bet it will be quite a bit later though).

but... the court site still has 4/14 as Status hearing. Did I miss something about the hearing moved to June? And "what date" in June if you know? TIA!

from court site:

Date Len Name Hearing Type Case # Location Division
4/14/20 - Murder
3:00 PM 1Hr STAUCH, LETECIA Status Conference D212020CR1358 El Paso County DIV 15-ROOM S403 (South Tower)

4/30/20 - Divorce
10:20 AM 1Hr STAUCH, LETECIA Initial Conference Appearance D212020DR30309 El Paso County FCF Wall-Rm S116 (South Tower)


link: Seventh Judicial District » Docket Search
 
  • #86
Poor kid.
 
  • #87
The AA may have left some holes that she felt was good enough for a defense. Frankly, while luminol lit up on her car, the lab results all came back negative for blood. Also no blood tied to Gannon in the rental car or in the Nissan Pathfinder that AS normally drove. At the time she was arrested the body was not found and was possibly never going to be found. She knew it was in Florida, but the AA speculated that it was in Colorado having been scattered by animals.

IMO, the most incriminating thing in the AA was her god awful story of Eguardo and being raped, then Gannon getting kidnapped (after Eguardo demanded a suitcase and cardboard box). And that was actually a prepared alibi that she had written down notes for. Wow. I would speculate that if she had stuck to her story of a runaway then she would have had a chance in court, at least before the body was found.

That's right, if the State can disprove or create reasonable doubt that Eguardo (the spelling on this name gets me every time :rolleyes:) even exists.
The the mention of the suitcase, which Gannon was actually placed and discarded in, becomes a major problem to explain.

The non-existent intruder asked for the suitcase Gannon's body was discovered in? I'm also assuming the suitcase can be identified as belonging to someone in the Stauch house-hold, but maybe not. Maybe she purchased a new one, regardless it's a huge problem for her Attorneys.

IMO, the most incriminating evidence is the blood spatter on the wall.
 
  • #88
You can see it in Gray Hughes video. He plays it several times so you can see the shadow appear and then go away over and over again. Imo
Thanks for posting this. The shadow previously did not make sense to me. Gray Hughes video cleared things up and after watching it I do agree with Gray Hughes inpretation that Gannon did get out of the truck on the opposite side. I was misjudging where the side door was on that side not considering the angle. The side door is further back due to the angle so the shadow is in the correct spot for someone stepping out of the vehicle.
 
  • #89
Thanks for posting this. The shadow previously did not make sense to me. Gray Hughes video cleared things up and after watching it I do agree with Gray Hughes inpretation that Gannon did get out of the truck on the opposite side. I was misjudging where the side door was on that side not considering the angle. The side door is further back due to the angle so the shadow is in the correct spot for someone stepping out of the vehicle.
 
  • #90
Thanks for posting this. The shadow previously did not make sense to me. Gray Hughes video cleared things up and after watching it I do agree with Gray Hughes inpretation that Gannon did get out of the truck on the opposite side. I was misjudging where the side door was on that side not considering the angle. The side door is further back due to the angle so the shadow is in the correct spot for someone stepping out of the vehicle.
Can you link to GH's clarification on the shadow exiting? I saw his original show, but didn't think he really proved his point. If he did something to the video to make his point more valid, I'd like to watch. Thanks!
 
  • #91
Responding to this from Love Never Fails:
"That’s where I am at right now. I can’t argue with LE findings at all but the timeline doesn’t make sense to me. Now they have the body, they maybe able to determine a lot more. And maybe HH has had time to absorb the enormity of what her mother has done and maybe she can talk with LE and help with the timeline."
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One finding from LE that I have the most trouble with is the blood found on the back of LS's car. They found blood on the rear bumper and on the step plate bumper, but not in the trunk. They believe this blood came to be there as a result of her putting Gannon's body in the trunk. They noted that where her rear bumper was, was right over where the blood on the garage floor was found. So, according to this we must believe that blood somehow left his body (or the suitcase or garbage bag or whatever she had him in or didn't have him in) while she transferred him from the floor to the trunk, but somehow no blood dripped onto the trunk itself? How likely is that? Perhaps she had the entire trunk covered with plastic but missed the bumper? I suppose that's possible, but how likely is it that she managed to get blood on the back seat, a front seat, the glove compartment, the bumper, the step plate, but not the trunk itself? Even with the plastic, she was moving so fast and so frantically, it just doesn't seem likely that the place where he was most present would be the cleanest. Especially if she left him there overnight and throughout the day Tuesday, then removed him in the dark of night. Just seems hard to envision being so sloppy everywhere else but not there. Even if she used plastic, at some point she had to remove it without anything dripping off it
Perhaps the blood transferred to the bumper not from Gannon's body, which was secured in trash bags and suitcase; but from T, her clothes or her shoes, as she arranged and hid the suitcase.
 
  • #92
Do we have a consensus here that she'd been planning to murder Gannon for a while? That she knew her and Al were over so this was like her psychopathic version of cutting up all of her soon to be ex's nice suits? Or that Gannon did something to set her off and it was a rage attack?
bbm
I'm going now with the blue bolded; but the red bolded may have been part of what happened the day he was murdered.
Poor Gannon probably didn't have to do or say very much to set her off.

I shudder to think of the lies the perp told his father and that Gannon maybe suffered more scolding or whatever, when it wasn't his fault ? :(
Note that any anger I have is directed at the perp alone !
 
  • #93
but... the court site still has 4/14 as Status hearing. Did I miss something about the hearing moved to June? And "what date" in June if you know? TIA!

from court site:

Date Len Name Hearing Type Case # Location Division
4/14/20 - Murder
3:00 PM 1Hr STAUCH, LETECIA Status Conference D212020CR1358 El Paso County DIV 15-ROOM S403 (South Tower)

4/30/20 - Divorce
10:20 AM 1Hr STAUCH, LETECIA Initial Conference Appearance D212020DR30309 El Paso County FCF Wall-Rm S116 (South Tower)


link: Seventh Judicial District » Docket Search

@Niner
On Friday, the Court issued an order (O-7) to reschedule the status hearing and proposed the dates June 5, 11, 15, or June 18 at 9 AM.

I doubt the prosecutor and defense have decided yet and that's why the calendar not updated.

Personally -- I think it will be much later than June when they meet again in court.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/El_Paso/Stauch/O-7 Order to Reschedule.pdf
 
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  • #94
but... the court site still has 4/14 as Status hearing. Did I miss something about the hearing moved to June? And "what date" in June if you know? TIA!

from court site:

Date Len Name Hearing Type Case # Location Division
4/14/20 - Murder
3:00 PM 1Hr STAUCH, LETECIA Status Conference D212020CR1358 El Paso County DIV 15-ROOM S403 (South Tower)

4/30/20 - Divorce
10:20 AM 1Hr STAUCH, LETECIA Initial Conference Appearance D212020DR30309 El Paso County FCF Wall-Rm S116 (South Tower)


link: Seventh Judicial District » Docket Search


https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...ct/El_Paso/Stauch/O-7 Order to Reschedule.pdf
 
  • #95
Responding to this from Love Never Fails:
"That’s where I am at right now. I can’t argue with LE findings at all but the timeline doesn’t make sense to me. Now they have the body, they maybe able to determine a lot more. And maybe HH has had time to absorb the enormity of what her mother has done and maybe she can talk with LE and help with the timeline."
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One finding from LE that I have the most trouble with is the blood found on the back of LS's car. They found blood on the rear bumper and on the step plate bumper, but not in the trunk. They believe this blood came to be there as a result of her putting Gannon's body in the trunk. They noted that where her rear bumper was, was right over where the blood on the garage floor was found. So, according to this we must believe that blood somehow left his body (or the suitcase or garbage bag or whatever she had him in or didn't have him in) while she transferred him from the floor to the trunk, but somehow no blood dripped onto the trunk itself? How likely is that? Perhaps she had the entire trunk covered with plastic but missed the bumper? I suppose that's possible, but how likely is it that she managed to get blood on the back seat, a front seat, the glove compartment, the bumper, the step plate, but not the trunk itself? Even with the plastic, she was moving so fast and so frantically, it just doesn't seem likely that the place where he was most present would be the cleanest. Especially if she left him there overnight and throughout the day Tuesday, then removed him in the dark of night. Just seems hard to envision being so sloppy everywhere else but not there. Even if she used plastic, at some point she had to remove it without anything dripping off it
Good Questions.
 
  • #96
Since I am still questioning the timeline of the murder, I still wonder if she bought one of those animal body sealing bags at Petco and placed his body inside. A poster said before that they bought one for one of their large dogs. And body fluids are sealed inside so that animals can’t get to them. Then maybe she placed the body in the suitcase. That would have allowed her to kill him that Monday while she was out and then go home and clean her house while HH and Laina were gone to Burger King and Dollar General.

I don’t want to question LE as they know how to conduct an investigation but this would allow her more time. I believe she almost fatally injured him on Sunday night, and killed him Monday between 11 and 1 and then went home to do more thorough cleaning.

What an evil moron she is.
bbm
Agreed, a poster pointed that out.

The AA verified that there were two trips to Petco; but not what was purchased.
Safe to assume it could have been related to disposing (sorry I hate to type that) of poor Gannon's remains.
Again I'm thankful that he can be buried with respect.
 
  • #97
That's right, if the State can disprove or create reasonable doubt that Eguardo (the spelling on this name gets me every time :rolleyes:) even exists.
The the mention of the suitcase, which Gannon was actually placed and discarded in, becomes a major problem to explain.

The non-existent intruder asked for the suitcase Gannon's body was discovered in? I'm also assuming the suitcase can be identified as belonging to someone in the Stauch house-hold, but maybe not. Maybe she purchased a new one, regardless it's a huge problem for her Attorneys.

IMO, the most incriminating evidence is the blood spatter on the wall.

Out of curiosity, what are the chances her attorney says they have to roll with this Eguardo thing throughout the trial? That's the statement she gave police on record, so isn't their best defense to embrace and own it?

I would assume her attorney knows she's guilty and crazy and won't plea out. Why not just stick with the facts your client made up, lose the case, and move on with your lawyering life?
 
  • #98
Love Never Fails
]hat’s where I am at right now. I can’t argue with LE findings at all but the timeline doesn’t make sense to me. Now they have the body, they maybe able to determine a lot more. And maybe HH has had time to absorb the enormity of what her mother has done and maybe she can talk with LE and help with the timeline.
bbm

Re. lavender bolded :
Let's hope so.

Somehow it's not promising--- if someone is not cooperating (as the AA indicated) before; there's not going to be much to change their mind now.

Except someone is coming of age in a few weeks and could then face possible charges, as was helpfully pointed out in the post that needed no bolding. ;)
 
  • #99
bbm
Agreed, a poster pointed that out.

The AA verified that there were two trips to Petco; but not what was purchased.
Safe to assume it could have been related to disposing (sorry I hate to type that) of poor Gannon's remains.
Again I'm thankful that he can be buried with respect.
Thanks. It’s so hard for me to remember posters names or how to go back and find a post to quote it.
This case has me so intrigued. She is so dumb on one hand and so evil on the other. I can certainly imagine her abusing Gannon (daily) but I can’t understand the need to kill him to cover it up. A few years in prison versus life without parole must have never crossed her mind.

I really believe this wasn’t her first time to hurt him badly. I also believe she hated him and was jealous of him. But I can’t get over her killing that precious boy.

I wish there was a way to make these killers talk and tell the whole story, the true story. there is so much we may never know. Generally when
someone like her decides to talk, its a story told their way and it’s all lies. :(
 
  • #100
Responding to this from Love Never Fails:
"That’s where I am at right now. I can’t argue with LE findings at all but the timeline doesn’t make sense to me. Now they have the body, they maybe able to determine a lot more. And maybe HH has had time to absorb the enormity of what her mother has done and maybe she can talk with LE and help with the timeline."
----------------------

One finding from LE that I have the most trouble with is the blood found on the back of LS's car. They found blood on the rear bumper and on the step plate bumper, but not in the trunk. They believe this blood came to be there as a result of her putting Gannon's body in the trunk. They noted that where her rear bumper was, was right over where the blood on the garage floor was found. So, according to this we must believe that blood somehow left his body (or the suitcase or garbage bag or whatever she had him in or didn't have him in) while she transferred him from the floor to the trunk, but somehow no blood dripped onto the trunk itself? How likely is that? Perhaps she had the entire trunk covered with plastic but missed the bumper? I suppose that's possible, but how likely is it that she managed to get blood on the back seat, a front seat, the glove compartment, the bumper, the step plate, but not the trunk itself? Even with the plastic, she was moving so fast and so frantically, it just doesn't seem likely that the place where he was most present would be the cleanest. Especially if she left him there overnight and throughout the day Tuesday, then removed him in the dark of night. Just seems hard to envision being so sloppy everywhere else but not there. Even if she used plastic, at some point she had to remove it without anything dripping off it
Great post!!!!
 
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