Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

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I dunno about smell if packed away in bags and a suitcase in an unopened car. Dogs maybe could pick up a scent but not humans after 7 hours and the body packed away. I bet she needed the windows down on the drive out of short term parking though. And she probably started thinking about a full detail inside the car given that smell, but everything was closed at 10:30pm after the dumping. Instead of getting a gas station wash on the outside I bet she wanted a full service, because of the smell. And those were only open the next day, maybe not even till 10am...Makes me want to see where the car wash on the list was located in relation to the 10:30pm pickup spot, and what their hours were. Wonder if LE asked the employees about peculiar smells. He was dead for over 30 hours in that car if LE timeline is correct.
I am horrible with google maps or any maps but I did find a crappy do it yourself car wash at the address listed below in the AA.

I believe the name was Power Wash. It looked sketchy unlike the nice new popular Big Wave car wash listed on the witness list.

I could not find a connection (if Big Wave owned the other car wash). Did she go to two car washes? - not sure but the Big Wave does have a camera pointed at the change machine, the other where she is on video may have had a camera or at least one captured her there.

67……… I submit that Letecia had to clean the vehicle, because there was likely visible blood on the rear end, based on the below luminol reactions. Indeed, video footage was recovered that shows a partial view of a car wash located at E Platte Ave/Bonfoy Ave in Colorado Springs, CO. This video captured a portion of a black SUV, consistent with the VW Tiguan, at or about 1139 hours on January 29, 2020 at the car wash. The time and location are consistent with raw data obtained from the Tiguan’s computer system, described in more detail below……

ETA: like another poster stated Big Wave is near Powers but the one she is videoed at is E Platte

Big Wave Address: 2865 New Center Pt, Colorado Springs, CO 80922
 
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I am horrible with google maps or any maps but I did find a crappy do it yourself car wash at the address listed below in the AA.

I believe the name was Power Wash. It looked sketchy unlike the nice new popular Big Wave car wash listed on the witness list.

I could not find a connection (if Big Wave owned the other car wash). Did she go to two car washes? - not sure but the Big Wave does have a cameral pointed at the change machine, the other may have had a camera or one captured her in that area.

67……… I submit that Letecia had to clean the vehicle, because there was likely visible blood on the rear end, based on the below luminol reactions. Indeed, video footage was recovered that shows a partial view of a car wash located at E Platte Ave/Bonfoy Ave in Colorado Springs, CO. This video captured a portion of a black SUV, consistent with the VW Tiguan, at or about 1139 hours on January 29, 2020 at the car wash. The time and location are consistent with raw data obtained from the Tiguan’s computer system, described in more detail below……

Ah, I was just going by the witness named in the witness list - from big wave car wash, located off powers and carefree. But if LE has a specific one they saw her at, I'm more confused now.
 
  • #464
Hey Everyone,

Last night on Websleuths YouTube Live we had Leigh Egan from Crimeonline.com and Sheryl McCollum from the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute. They offered an amazing insight into Letecia's arrest affidavit.

Leigh Egan sent me answers to questions people asked in chat last night that we did not get to so I'll be reading those questions and answers tonight.

Also, we are going to discuss when do you step in if you hear or see a parent or guardian being cruel to a child?

CLICK HERE AND JOIN US AT 10:00 PM EASTERN TONIGHT ON WEBSLEUTHS YOUTUBE LIVE
 
  • #465
@MassGuy, do you have a theory for how she got the suitcase from the SUV to the rental car? Where and when? In broad daylight, at the airport?

She never transferred it from her SUV to the rental car. She drove her SUV with Gannon in the trunk to the dump site 9pm on the 28th, left Gannon there. Then she went back around 5pm on the 31st and retrieved Gannon's body in the Nissan Altima her aunt had rented. Based on what LE reported in the AA about vehicles tracked to that location (where the bloody board was found).
 
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I'm surprised there's no mention of a dog picking up the scent of a cadaver.

Or, I should say, if a dog did pick up a cadaver scent, why wouldn't it be in the AA? It would go a long way toward convincing me/us/a jury that he died at home.
Well, the AA is stamped as REDACTED, so maybe not everything is listed on there that we are privy to.
But I do agree with you, if dogs were there, they would have picked up scent according to what we have read. JMO
 
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Ha! Then she puts him in the back of her rental. It’s killing me not knowing the logistics of how she traveled to Florida/South Carolina.

She would have had to put his body in yet another vehicle to make this trip.

She definitely had a lot to get accomplished in a short period of time. On another subject: Can you imagine how AS was feeling, His child was missing and the person he likely trusted most was running all around the tri-county area swapping cars turning off her phone for long periods of time, and hiding her vehicle. Just think AS had all these questions and worries and the one that could shed light on the situation was more often than not unavailable. She wouldn't even tell him where her car was. Can you imagine the torture and torment that he and LH must have gone thru. And then she flees likely blaming him, LE and LH. She would have been less obvious if she just had guilty written on her forehead when Police arrived at her door. I just can't with this woman. I think her and Patrick Frazee were both conceived in the belly of Satan himself.
 
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@MassGuy, do you have a theory for how she got the suitcase from the SUV to the rental car? Where and when? In broad daylight, at the airport?

I don't know about you guys but I would hardly give a second glance to someone moving a suitcase from one vehicle to another in broad daylight.

I also won't be surprised if people, having seen T on TV, remembered that they did indeed see her do that and called in tips.

In fact, between tips and video footage I bet they actually have an hour by hour play by play of her days.
 
  • #469
Good, because @GordianKnot can’t afford to lose another bet.

Before the arrest affidavit, I was completely sold on Gannon not returning home.

The fact that he was not witnessed on camera returning, that TS left her phone at home, and Gannon’s phone was likely left in Petco, seem to support this.

I mean, she was clearly planning to do something bad when they climbed in the car that morning.

The counterpoint to that is the blood evidence in Gannon’s room. The idea that a kid that had sustained injuries that involved blood splatter, (and blood that soaked through the carpet and into the mattress), was able to walk to the car, is hard for me to believe.

There was also no blood found in the pickup.

Then factor this in:

She probably rented that car because Gannon’s body was likely in the back of her own SUV.

Location data puts her SUV in the probable dump site location on the evening of the 28th.

It does make sense that she would dump the body at night, and explains the need to rent that car. It also explains why she had her car washed before her police interview.

It also explains that particle board that was found with Gannon’s blood on it, which also explains the lack of blood in her trunk (she placed Gannon’s dead body on that board).

So I don’t think the official narrative will change, unless the blood splatter expert reports something unexpected.
Well okay then :D

(hang in there with me) At the time the Affidavit was issued, TS was out of state, there was no body, and the loose-lipped defendant was playing the media. If the Cadaver dogs hit on the scent, is it possible LE withheld that information from the Affidavit?

I am amazed how this investigation is sealed. And during interview, the DDA does not budge.

** I appreciate your response.
 
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A case can be made for either scenario.

Unless the prosecution can prove that GS returned home with TS that Monday afternoon, I wouldn't advise them to go all in on that theory at trial and tell the jury, "He was murdered in his home."

I say that because if the defense can raise reasonable doubt as to whether or not GS ever returned home with her that afternoon, it leaves the door open for some ignoramus juror devoid of critical thinking skills to vote not guilty.

If the DA isn't certain of which scenario is the correct one, offer the jury both, and let them know that in either case, all roads lead to Rome, and by Rome here, I mean TS.

Regardless of where she murdered him or when she murdered him, one thing remains certain:

TS is the evil monster guilty of his murder.

JMO.

I agree, notwithstanding that you haven't used "notwithstanding" in a while. :cool:
 
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One thing that kinda surprised me was learning that she had moved GS body only a couple days after she had dumped him near Palmer lake. As it was long before they ever started searching there. I'm still kinda shocked that it took them as long as it did to uncover the tracking info to lead them to search there. IIRC they didn't find the particle bd until I believe around February 15th-16th somewhere in there. That was over two full weeks after T had already retrieved GS's body.
 
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I'm surprised there's no mention of a dog picking up the scent of a cadaver.

Or, I should say, if a dog did pick up a cadaver scent, why wouldn't it be in the AA? It would go a long way toward convincing me/us/a jury that he died at home.
BBM:

Occam says there's no mention in the affidavit of a cadaver dog alerting anywhere because no cadaver dogs picked up any scent at any of the locations where they were used.

If a dog had alerted anywhere in the home, that would have been included in the AA.

I'm wondering whether cadaver dogs checked out all of the vehicles TS used, including the rental vehicles, as well as vehicles of any of her family members who may have "helped her move her things out of the house."

JMO.
 
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Ah, I was just going by the witness named in the witness list - from big wave car wash, located off powers and carefree. But if LE has a specific one they saw her at, I'm more confused now.

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... at approximately 2226 hours Harley’s cell phone leaves the Stauch residence and goes to the area of Powers and Carefree, where investigators suspect she picked Letecia up.

Maybe video from Big Wave is why they are on witness list?
JMO
 
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One thing that kinda surprised me was learning that she had moved GS body only a couple days after she had dumped him near Palmer lake. As it was long before they ever started searching there. I'm still kinda surprised that it took them as long as it did to uncover the tracking info to lead them to search there. IIRC they didn't find the particle bd until I believe around February 15th-16th somewhere in there. That was over two full weeks after T had retrieved GS's body.
According to the AA, at 10:45pm on the 28th LS texted officers and said (among other things): "One of your very own leaked to me what you guys were doing."..."Every conversation that said even at this moment I can hear inside." This is approximately an hour and a half after she left Gannon's body at the initial dump site.

I've seen it speculated that she had HH on the phone inside the home, quietly letting her listen to investigators' conversations. Regardless HOW she could hear them, I'm assuming she gained knowledge either through overhearing or through this LE leak, that they were able to track her Tiguan's movements and would be requesting those records. This may be why she knew she had to move Gannon again, and soon. And to use a car other than the Tiguan.

ETA: Especially think it could be HH inside letting her hear conversations cuz in the same texts LS said "men were sent to a home with a minor female and she was forced to stay there not to even leave even for food." JMO

ETA2: The huevos on this woman to taunt police that she can hear them, and proclaim she's being set up, less than two hours after dumping Gannon's body.
 
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Does The AA provide any tracking information of the Altima from the tracking device placed by LE after the 31st ?
 
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I've seen it speculated that she had HH on the phone inside the home, quietly letting her listen to investigators' conversations.
bbm

What?
 
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Ignorant!
Blamers!

I didn't notice the aunt at TS's hearing, there were plenty of seats available.
bbm
Well either that, or there's something else going on.
I'm betting we could see more charges.
 
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Does The AA provide any tracking information of the Altima from the tracking device placed by LE after the 31st ?
They say LS used the vehicle January 30-February 1st.
I’m guessing she or her Aunt or other family member returned it on the 1st before leaving town.
 

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BBM:

Occam says there's no mention in the affidavit of a cadaver dog alerting anywhere because no cadaver dogs picked up any scent at any of the locations where they were used.

If a dog had alerted anywhere in the home, that would have been included in the AA.

I'm wondering whether cadaver dogs checked out all of the vehicles TS used, including the rental vehicles, as well as vehicles of any of her family members who may have "helped her move her things out of the house."

JMO.
Was HH's vehicle impounded as well?
 
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One thing that kinda surprised me was learning that she had moved GS body only a couple days after she had dumped him near Palmer lake. As it was long before they ever started searching there. I'm still kinda shocked that it took them as long as it did to uncover the tracking info to lead them to search there. IIRC they didn't find the particle bd until I believe around February 15th-16th somewhere in there. That was over two full weeks after T had already retrieved GS's body.

Replied to myself to add and they had put a tracker on her rental vehicle before January 31st. They were so concerned about her movements but yet apparently nobody was actually keeping an eye on what she was actually doing. Can you imagine if they had actually followed her to Palmer lake that night. I don't say this to blame LE but it sure seems like many opportunities to solve this case sooner and obtain critical evidence were overlooked. They apparently had the tiguan data since February 12th. Maybe I'm way off base here but there does seem like some steps in this investigation makes me scratch my head. ETA and I'm not usually one to question LE, which maybe I shouldn't here but I will be curious to learn what they knew and when they knew it.
 
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