Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

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  • #581
I don't know of this has been mentioned, its moving so quickly. Something is really concerning me. It is obvious she creates lies that can explain certain things, no matter how insane they are. Her lie that both she and Gannon were raped with an object...... I'm very nervous that there is truth to that (but obviously from her, not an intruder). This sick b seemed intent on torturing this poor child, both verbally and physically. I don't even like to say this, but I very sadly will not pbe surprised if it was true that she also sexually abused him with an object.

Sadly yes. She is so agressive and competetive.
Gannon by all I have seen reported was a gentle boy, but fighter, a preemie surviving.

It is horrible to think a poor light filled boy, who was into Sonic and friends could could be so brutally crushed.
Child rapists attribute adult motivations to kids, saying the child brought the assault on themselves and most repulsively, they believe it.
I wish the DP was replaced with Supermax regime 23in cell /1 out hours, no social privileges.
 
  • #582
I suspect there was blood on the suitcase that transferred to the board.

Speculation only, of course.

jmo

edited to remove a sentence that sounded snarky when I didn't mean to!

Sorry if I sounded snarky in asking the question. I guess I was imagining blood trickling down from the suitcase / body. But of course that's highly unlikely. It would have congealed quickly after death (Is that right?).

Still, the large circled area of the board in the AA photo seems more in line with being under something rather than over it.
 
  • #583
If it was over the suitcase, how did it get blood on it?

LS claimed the board flew out of the back of the truck on Monday during her 4 hour expedition. I know she lies, but I'm puzzled about what she was doing with Al's truck on Monday. Her Tiguan was right there. She took the truck for a reason.
Yeah. I hadn't even given that a thought. Was her Tiguan in the garage?
 
  • #584
Yeah. I hadn't even given that a thought. Was her Tiguan in the garage?

At the time she left in the truck with Gannon her Tiguan was in the driveway. Someone pointed out earlier that it was facing the garage.
 
  • #585
Yeah. I hadn't even given that a thought. Was her Tiguan in the garage?
According to the affidavit, the Tiguan was backed up in the garage while LE was at the home on Monday night. There was blood on the floor of the garage where the back of the car, or trunk, had been. So between the blood in the garage and the blood on the bumper they believe Gannon's body was in the trunk.

Imo
 
  • #586
Sorry if I sounded snarky in asking the question. I guess I was imagining blood trickling down from the suitcase / body. But of course that's highly unlikely. It would have congealed quickly after death (Is that right?).

Still, the large circled area of the board in the AA photo seems more in line with being under something rather than over it.

Re BBM
I tried to find an article about that but it is hard to find one that talks about the blood flow or lack thereof after death.

IMO
I am pretty sure blood stops flowing immediately after the heart stops, however, it is my understanding that if there is a way for blood to escape the body like a knife wound or gunshot wound then by gravity alone, some of the blood can still leak out after death.

Im sure most of us have heard how some deer hunters will hang a deer from a tree upside down with a neck slice to drain the blood from the deer. Gravity alone can cause blood to escape a body after death so long as there is a wound or some other opening for the blood to escape.
 
  • #587
Up thread somewhere someone asked where the outlet described in the AA was in relation to the bed. I thought the only outlet I could see was along the wall near the foot of the bed. But today I saw what may be an outlet in the picture of the head of the mattress. I'll attach it below.

Of course the mattress is bare in the photo, so we can't be sure it's still in it's original place.
 

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  • #588
According to the affidavit, the Tiguan was backed up in the garage while LE was at the home on Monday night. There was blood on the floor of the garage where the back of the car, or trunk, had been. So between the blood in the garage and the blood on the bumper they believe Gannon's body was in the trunk.

Imo
it will be interesting to see exactly when her suv is backed into the garage on that Monday and the musical chairs she plays with her car and other cars entering the garage to cover the blood stains and removal of evidence.
 
  • #589
The average teacher assistant in CO makes between $25K-$29K. He was active duty Reserve? Can't imagine that pays $150K @ year.

Right now, I am several pages behind, but wanted to address this now.

The pay charts for military are widely available online. For AG, this link gives monthly salary based on time in service:

Army Reserve Pay Chart & Salary | GoArmy.com

This chart is SOLELY base pay, and does NOT include additional allowances such as BAH (housing allowance), BAS (basically a food allowance) and any special pay he may have received based on his MOS.


ETA I included the wrong pay chart. This is the one i meant to add:

2020 Military Pay Charts
 
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Re BBM
I tried to find an article about that but it is hard to find one that talks about the blood flow or lack thereof after death.

IMO

I am pretty sure blood stops flowing immediately after the heart stops, however, it is my understanding that if there is a way for blood to escape the body like a knife wound or gunshot wound then by gravity alone, some of the blood can still leak out after death.

Im sure most of us have heard how some deer hunters will hang a deer from a tree upside down with a neck slice to drain the blood from the deer. Gravity alone can cause blood to escape a body after death so long as there is a wound or some other opening for the blood to escape.

Oh yes, I've been witness to more than one deer hanging from a tree. But, like you stated, this happens when the body is cut after death.

To me, JMO, the blood on the board was stained after death by gravity, which means IMO it was under Gannon's body.
 
  • #591
Re BBM
I tried to find an article about that but it is hard to find one that talks about the blood flow or lack thereof after death.

IMO
I am pretty sure blood stops flowing immediately after the heart stops, however, it is my understanding that if there is a way for blood to escape the body like a knife wound or gunshot wound then by gravity alone, some of the blood can still leak out after death.

Im sure most of us have heard how some deer hunters will hang a deer from a tree upside down with a neck slice to drain the blood from the deer. Gravity alone can cause blood to escape a body after death so long as there is a wound or some other opening for the blood to escape.
Yes, the blood can still seep out of wounds or cuts, especially when the body is moved within a few hours, I would think.
Imo
 
  • #592
Sorry if I sounded snarky in asking the question. I guess I was imagining blood trickling down from the suitcase / body. But of course that's highly unlikely. It would have congealed quickly after death (Is that right?).

Still, the large circled area of the board in the AA photo seems more in line with being under something rather than over it.
If the board was placed on the flooring of the Tiguan and the suitcase placed over it, I can imagine that blood would eventually seep out. Not pour out, but seep through the suitcase onto the board under it. I'm envisioning a soft-sided suitcase as so many are theses days, rather than a hard suitcase.

Again, this is thinking-aloud speculation, not fact.

I imagine her putting Gannon into the suitcase and lugging the suitcase upstairs to the garage and then seeing a board in the garage, put the board in the car as part of the coverup (protect car, hide suitcase, whatever).

It's harder for me to think of her coming up with the idea of using the board to transport Gannon.

jmo
 
  • #593
Yeah. I hadn't even given that a thought. Was her Tiguan in the garage?
The Tiguan was in the garage by the time LE arrived around 10pm at night. I would imagine she would have pulled the vehicle into the garage before loading Gannon into it, if that's what she did. It's possible she stored the body elsewhere, perhaps in the Jetta.

We don't know yet. Brainstorming ideas only.

jmo
 
  • #594
Yes, the blood can still seep out of wounds or cuts, especially when the body is moved within a few hours, I would think.
Imo
And the body itself is moist - it's not as if dry bones were put in the suitcase. Sorry to be graphic, but as time goes on, the fluids of a wounded body are going to seep. It's not necessarily only a fresh wound that is wet.

:(

I don't think that suitcase was staying "dry" unless there was something in the suitcase absorbing fluid and smells, which is another possibility.

jmo
 
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  • #595
To me, JMO, the blood on the board was stained after death by gravity, which means IMO it was under Gannon's body.

I agree it is more likely the particle board was underneath him to have a large stain like is circled in the affidavit picture.

I sure wish those pictures in the AA were clearer. It is so hard to make out the circled area but it does seem like a large stain on that board.
 
  • #596
Up thread somewhere someone asked where the outlet described in the AA was in relation to the bed. I thought the only outlet I could see was along the wall near the foot of the bed. But today I saw what may be an outlet in the picture of the head of the mattress. I'll attach it below.

Of course the mattress is bare in the photo, so we can't be sure it's still in it's original place.
Thanks! That was probably me.
If it was the one at the head of the bed, that would be consistent with a massive head wound, causing a large amount to pool on the mattress, (and likely the pillow) go over the side, and onto the floor.

I wonder if the spatter on the wall came from the same injury. I think there were many.

Imo
 
  • #597
[QUOTE="LietKynes, post: 16003277,

The video interviews with L. Eagan shed some more light on what the household situation was like and we can discuss it as well as it is part of WS.
Of interest to me at his time was how much adults in Gannon's life knew how he was being treated ?
After the interview I no longer feel it's the elephant in the room.
So discuss away.
Imo.[/QUOTE]

SBM
Good post. I agree completely and mentioned this as well several threads ago. This was not an aberration and other family members had to be aware.
 
  • #598
The photo of the mattress.....

Not sure if there's significance, but might that be the boxspring? I imagine she could've tried everything to clean the top of a me mattress but didn't think of or have time to clean blood that may have dripped behind or pooled between ....

Regardless, I imagine she would have kept cleaning, had she been allowed back in the house. Heavens, we might've seen a craigslist post for a free mattress, in the style of ML's wicked murderer.

If they're keeping TS at a distance from other inmates (because coronavirus, because she's violent, because she's vile), her next occasion to speak should be a full word vomit because she has to be desperate to blather. She won't, of course, mean to but I bet she reveal/preveal plenty.

Tell someone everything, TS. Or have someone write.it.down.for.you.

JMO.
 
  • #599
And the body itself is moist - it's not as if dry bones were put in the suitcase. Sorry to be graphic, but as time goes on, the fluids of a wounded body are going to seep. It's not necessary only a fresh wound that is wet.

:(

I don't think that suitcase was staying "dry" unless there was something in the suitcase absorbing fluid and smells, which is another possibility.

jmo
Yes, depending on the size of the wound or the amount of openings or holes in the body, the blood can pool up and then once the body is turned over or moved, it can pour out.
After several hours, the blood dries up and coagulates. I don't think she waited that long, though.

And yes, other fluids would begin to seep from the body eventually. I'm sure finding that suitcase was unpleasant for everyone.

Imo
 
  • #600
[QUOTE="LietKynes, post: 16003277,

The video interviews with L. Eagan shed some more light on what the household situation was like and we can discuss it as well as it is part of WS.
Of interest to me at his time was how much adults in Gannon's life knew how he was being treated ?
After the interview I no longer feel it's the elephant in the room.
So discuss away.
Imo.

Sorry to be the annoying poster who is behind in the conversation. Does this refer to Tricia's video on youtube? I haven't watched so I guess I need to do that.

Or is there somewhere else I should be looking for this info?

tia
 
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