Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

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Wow - that was quick
That's what she said.

No, sorry, I mistakenly mentioned may instead of june. I think I just missed the deadline to edit my post.

Despite the grim subject matter, early june is a pleasant surprise for those of us that can't stand waiting and wondering.
 
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Yes. She was likely one of those wives who think they wear their husband’s rank.

They’re the worst.

TS definitely outranks AS.

She's as rank as it gets.
 
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Because HH will definitely be called to the stand. Once the DA establishes the overall timeline, then HH will testify about her run to Dollar General to get trash bags, etc. I'm sure HH will also be asked about what parts of the house were cleaned (and they will all correspond with where Gannon's blood was found).
Previously you were explaining “reasonable doubt” let’s say (in my own words) that LS was OCD with cleaning. Minus the obvious areas that luminal had documented. Could that scenario cause reasonable doubt if asked to HH?
 
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I think there are tons of psychological variables in this story - and your post gets at that.

Most people don't like messes in their houses, and in this case, it's a bloody awful mess. Time after time, murderers work themselves into whatever frenzy or state they're in, and then, once that's over, they are more or less "back to reality" and facing the very real consequence of their nightmarish behavior.

She didn't want all that mess in the garage, she knew it would leave more evidence (plus there must have been several garbage bags: blanket, bedspread, sheets, pillow, her own clothing, etc) She knew not to try to launder all of it in a short time. She figures the neighbors won't pay much or any attention (some aren't home from work yet) and they'll just think she's cleaning house. At first.

Her original goal is just to buy herself time. None of it works out well for her. At some point, all of that stuff had to go somewhere else (like into a dumpster at one of the shopping centers where she stopped). Once it's all bagged and stacked up, she then has to figure out what to do with it (probably taking it back through the house to one of the cars - perhaps HH's, we don't know).

At any rate, she bought herself a couple of days. Once AS was home, the jig was up and she knew it. But she still needed to try and get away with it, hence all of her demented frantic activity. Yep, her "panic brain" was in its own unique working order.

She got away with it for 35 days. I think LE knew Gannon was dead by the 29th and strongly suspected on the 28th. They were busy getting warrants in the 28th. I wonder if part of LE's strategy, in denying that there was foul play or making LS a formal suspect was to keep AS in doubt, trying to make him wait until the story was better understood (or else AS may very well have tried to or succeeded in harming Letecia, who knew her only chance was to hightail it out of town).
bbm
Agreed.
Maybe part of the reason that LS and daughter were at the Marshalls' store (if they were actually there); TS would need some new clothing or at least shoes ?
She must have had blood on her shoes. :(
 
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bbm
Agreed.
Maybe part of the reason that LS and daughter were at the Marshalls' store (if they were actually there); TS would need some new clothing or at least shoes ?
She must have had blood on her shoes. :(
We know she did, as Gannon’s blood was found on the outside of the shoes they seized.
 
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How could he have been shot at the house without neighbors hearing, those houses are on top of each other? Also, without a hole in the mattress or a pillow or the wall. I'm not saying she didn't use a gun but I am having a hard time thinking she did it in the house.
The only case I am comfortable referencing is Dan Markel, the Florida law professor that was shot sitting in his car in his garage.

He was shot twice in the head at an estimated distance of 6 - 30 inches away. Once in the forward, once in cheek. One bullet was likely slowed from the glass of driver side window.

I believe it was a .38 caliber revolver.

Both bullets were retrieved at Autopsy.

Somewhere in the AA it references a possible missing pillow. GS likely shot with pillow covering head?

Interesting facts of Markel case: Miraculously Dan did not die instantly, he was incubated but eventually pulled off life support. LS going in and out of the house, waiting for Gannon to die?
 
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I don't think she shot him at home. Wouldn't there be more than 50 drops of blood spatter around the room if he were shot?

My worst fear is that Gannon wasn't deceased when she brought him to the dump location so she shot him. I do not think that happened....but sometimes I do wonder.

I also wonder if she shot him after death, at the dump location, to somehow make it look like someone else did it? Perhaps she thought a gunshot would look more like a stranger abduction?

Or maybe a gunshot at the dump location covered up the abuse she committed against him?

IDK, just some (awful) possibilities.

jmo

I always wondered if the gunshot was to the suitcase, after he was dumped in FL, and hoping it would land in water and sink.

I still believe he was killed within 30 minutes of them returning home Monday afternoon, because he didn't die in the car and Laina would be home within one hour. AA asserts she didn't unlock her phone until 30 minutes after arriving home. For someone "who left her phone at home" and was SM addicted, that is highly suspect.
 
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Previously you were explaining “reasonable doubt” let’s say (in my own words) that LS was OCD with cleaning. Minus the obvious areas that luminal had documented. Could that scenario cause reasonable doubt if asked to HH?
I don’t believe there is a way to cast any reasonable doubt. HH was asked by LS to purchase said cleaning items. Text messages back that up. The cleaning items purchased, were normal every day cleaning supplies. HH was at work and LE verified her alibi. Also, RD’s camera was continuously recording so LE could view the entire day’s activities. No way for HH to have entered the home without them knowing, prior to when she returned from work and the store. The video we haven’t seen likely tells more of the story than the part we have seen. LE may have told RD his video was a game changer, but that could be because they could view the whole day’s activities. The AA says LS is the only person believed to be involved. She’s the only person with the means and access to commit the crime.
 
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bbm
Agreed.
Maybe part of the reason that LS and daughter were at the Marshalls' store (if they were actually there); TS would need some new clothing or at least shoes ?
She must have had blood on her shoes. :(
She did have Gannon's blood on one of her sneakers, but she didn't think to get rid of them!
 
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I always wondered if the gunshot was to the suitcase, after he was dumped in FL, and hoping it would land in water and sink.

I still believe he was killed within 30 minutes of them returning home Monday afternoon, because he didn't die in the car and Laina would be home within one hour. AA asserts she didn't unlock her phone until 30 minutes after arriving home. For someone "who left her phone at home" and was SM addicted, that is highly suspect.


I agree, I think all the additional crimes of violence charges that were added were for each time she shot or stabbed through the suitcase before she threw it over the bridge, in hopes that it would sink. JMO
 
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Yes, good thinking. I wish we had a picture of the outside of the house and especially of the gate and how far it is from the garage.

I guess an outside hose would be located near the kitchen or a bathroom, or the utility room? What room is near the back door?

Also, I wonder if there is a sink in the garage and she used that for some of the cleanup?
You can find pictures of the house on realtor sites from when it was put up for rent. There is a spicket next to what looks like a
storm drain. The dining room is located at the where the sliding door is and the living room is in the back where the spicket it. Also the house did come with a built in humidifier, according to the listing. I am new here so I am not certain how to post pic's. If there is a different way, please let me know. 6627 Mandan Dr, Colorado Springs, CO 80925 - realtor.com® and 6627 Mandan Drive, Colorado Springs, CO 80925 - SOLD LISTING, MLS # 8973578 | Pink Realty
 
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Previously you were explaining “reasonable doubt” let’s say (in my own words) that LS was OCD with cleaning. Minus the obvious areas that luminal had documented. Could that scenario cause reasonable doubt if asked to HH?
Considering the overwhelming evidence that points only to TS, I don't think there is any scenario that can be used to create reasonable doubt.

Even if she cleaned every day, the timing of the request for those specific items is too close to the time Gannon was murdered to be a coincidence. One could also say she sent HH out as soon as she got home so she could be alone in the house.

Imo
 
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guys, last night, gray broke down the arrest warrant chronologically, using excel and google maps, and it's a must-see. really gives a clear vision of how this (possibly) went down.

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Gray starts naming off her Google searches but gets all the times wrong. Her Google searches she did in the wee hours of the night beginning at 12:09 AM he lists as being at 12:09 PM, while she was driving around in the truck. He even claims the searches must have been done on Gannon's phone, when the AA clearly states they were from Letecia's phone. I find him hard to listen to, but then when he gets the info wrong it really seals the deal for me. I always end up feeling it was a waste of time.
 
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I agree, I think all the additional crimes of violence charges that were added were for each time she shot or stabbed through the suitcase before she threw it over the bridge, in hopes that it would sink. JMO
I think all the charges reflect injuries inflicted at the time of the murder, before she put the body in the suitcase. I haven't seen any evidence that suggests she shot at or stabbed the suitcase.

I think it's more likely that she pulled over and dumped it as fast as she could so she wouldn't be seen.

Imo
 
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If she intends to throw her daughter under the bus, her defense team will have to convince a judge there's enough evidence to charge HH. I think that's impossible. I don't think any states allow a person's defense to be pointing a random finger at someone else and then calling witnesses against that person.

There would have to be compelling evidence that HH did it. I can't think of any. If LS thinks she knows that HH did it (!) then LS will have to take the stand (and be demolished). Since HH can be called to the stand by either side, that would certainly happen (the prosecution would call HH and HH would have alibis and give no evidence that she killed Gannon, in fact, one would presume that HH would totally flip on LS if LS tried this).

Since LS is lying and is the only person with "knowledge" about Eguardo, Quincy or HH being criminals - she has to testify to that. There is no other evidence. No blood on HH's shoes - blood on LS's shoes instead. So far, no DNA of Quincy or Eguardo involved. By now, they've probably accounted for the various DNA in the house by testing AS as well (and Quincy and Eguardo).

If Eguardo is the one who came and repaired the carpet, he may in fact testify as to what actually happened to that carpet (LS is lying about it, IMO).

No defense is allowed to name 3 random people instead of the defendant, although they can try and sneak it into the closing argument, there would be no evidence presented - unless from the beginning, the judge allows it.

It could get really interesting if the defense even try to hint at Quincy, just as an example. Not only would Quincy then be called to testify, but it would open the door to Letecia's own lovely past, which I believe includes at least a brief stint as a sex worker.

But the real star witness is sure to be Albert Stauch himself, to testify about all the various things Letecia said and when she said them. Quincy's name doesn't come up until February! Letecia lies to AS consistently and continues to do so. He knows what's missing from the house. He knows where that bed was supposed to be that morning. He also knows LS and how she's behaved in the past.

So do not worry. She can't claim that HH did it, it's absolutely crazy to do so and there is no evidence and it would only cause HH to testify against her in more detail than she might otherwise.

Because HH will definitely be called to the stand. Once the DA establishes the overall timeline, then HH will testify about her run to Dollar General to get trash bags, etc. I'm sure HH will also be asked about what parts of the house were cleaned (and they will all correspond with where Gannon's blood was found).

HH is slowly getting over the shock of the actual events, but by the time of the trial, her main concern is going to be keeping herself out of jail and telling the truth. Her own attorney (one she'll have to pay for, herself, so hopefully she can do that) will advise her to tell the truth.

I think once in court, HH will in fact tell the truth. She may try to cover up some things, but the jury will readily see that - she's so young and court is very intimidating.
@10ofRods ... I appreciate your knowledge and your time to respond. From your response, I see nothing for the defense to use that would raise a doubt in a jurors mind.

As much as I want to see her chewed up and spit out as cud, I can't imagine her enduring all of this humiliation at a trial. One example is her communication with Leigh Egan. Busting off about having the Baez firm and having a vindicating polygraph test result. She was hiding behind her attorney to avoid being seen by the camera just for a hearing. I just can't imagine her sitting while all of her lies are unraveled.
 
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Gray starts naming off her text messages but gets all the times wrong. Her Google searches she did in the wee hours of the night beginning at 12:09 AM he lists as being at 12:09 PM, while she was driving around in the truck. He even claims the searches must have been done on Gannon's phone, when the AA clearly states they were from Letecia's phone. I find him hard to listen to, but then when he gets the info wrong it really seals the deal for me. I always end up feeling it was a waste of time.
i know
and you cant tell him.
he wont have a bar of it.

he totally botched those times of her searches.

moo
 
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@Geneic I was referring to reasonable doubt in “why” she was cleaning. An OCD clean freak or a freak scrubbing away evidence. MOW
No doubt in my mind LS will have hot britches soon!
 
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@10ofRods ... I appreciate your knowledge and your time to respond. From your response, I see nothing for the defense to use that would raise a doubt in a jurors mind.

As much as I want to see her chewed up and spit out as cud, I can't imagine her enduring all of this humiliation at a trial. One example is her communication with Leigh Egan. Busting off about having the Baez firm and having a vindicating polygraph test result. She was hiding behind her attorney to avoid being seen by the camera just for a hearing. I just can't imagine her sitting while all of her lies are unraveled.
My guess is she will do something dramatic in the courtroom. Not sure what, but something.

jmo
 
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