Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

[LietKynes]

If you ever have to rent a car near that same Colorado airport, avoid renting a white Kia Rio. Not only did TS use it around the time of a murder, someone else may have too. Note the blood from a stranger in the trunk. AA Item #62 + #63.

I think... it was other (adult)male dna, as in someone else who used the trunk ?
Like hair, skin cells, or sweat left behind ?
Not blood, or necessarily connected to a murder or crime ?

At least that's how I understood that portion of the AA.
Someone else can chime in if I'm waaay off.

 

[Bbybluz]

Once Laina and HH see Gannon's condition, and Albert tries to make his daily phone calls/contact with Gannon (and Laina), he's going to be really pissed

Do we know of Laina had her own phone too? I don’t think I remember seeing it mentioned.

It didn't appear to be in the garage and in one of her stories, LS has Gannon riding his bike in northern Colorado Springs (I think).

Were there photos of the garage & inside the house to view?

Well, if she was obsessive about cleaning in general, wouldn't she already have tons of cleaning supplies around?

MOO No not with all domestic goddesses. You have certain supplies you trust to take care of the cleaning need. Too many supplies equal clutter & not organized in simple fashion.

I too wonder why the AA doesn't have better evidence mentioned about how Gannon got back into the house. They don't mention RD's videos at all. Or RD. It really bugs me a lot. If the video we've all seen is all they have to prove he was killed in that short window that afternoon, it's weird

I agree RD’s copy we seen was a copy from a copy probably recorded from a phone video. The original might look better but without his name on the list maybe his isn’t used. I was wondering if another neighbors name is on the list with a better quality or better angle is being used. I have seen a video from the neighbor to the right of AS’s house & it’s a nice view even of the gate & garage. It wasn’t pertaining to this case but of car thefts in the area & she mentions “there’s Gannon’s house & Al’s red truck”.

 

[Brubon]

Who is close enough to LS to be able to "drill down through her thick skull" and get her to simply plead guilty. She must love HH. I'm assuming she gave birth to her. Maybe LS loves her own mother. Could this person, who might be able to reason with her, get her to recognize the enormity of pain that could be avoided for her daughter, her mother, her sister etc. if this case does NOT go to trial.
There must be someone in this world who can break through and reach her heart.
Who is that person?
MOO

 

[Hatfield]

I think... it was other (adult)male dna, as in someone else who used the trunk ?
Like hair, skin cells, or sweat left behind ?
Not blood, or necessarily connected to a murder or crime ?

At least that's how I understood that portion of the AA.
Someone else can chime in if I'm waaay off.

Its clearly someone else's blood they are talking about in the trunk of the Kia Rio. Affidavit #62 and #63.

Letecia Stauch Arrest Affidavit

 

[Boxer]

Its clearly someone else's blood they are talking about in the trunk of the Kia Rio. Affidavit #62 and #63.

Letecia Stauch Arrest Affidavit

I hope they checked that blood and that they didn't stumble on another murder.

 

[Bbybluz]

On page 23, #147 in the Affidavit, LS says "Every conversation that's said, even at this moment, I can hear inside."

In that paragraph, LS references a "minor child". Would that be HH?

Also, do you suppose LS was standing outside the home when she sent that text, listening to the conversation inside?

I read @Error505 ‘s reply & I also answered to this with questioning if HH had her phone on secretly for LS to hear before too. It makes the most sense until last night while while questions of the case were bouncing in my head (sheep were on strike due to safe distancing).

I remember a WSer talking about the ADT service & mentioned an app for your phone. Also mentioned possibly being able to hear inside the home too edited and bolder for correction - this hearing inside the house app was Alexa? This I found strange and passed it off as not true due to eavesdropping laws (I might watch too much mystery TV). But let’s say this is true? Could LS access it right then? Could LE through a warrant for ADT?

Speaking of ADT we seen how they can record the time stamp for opening & closing of doors & even motion sensing in certain rooms. Can it tell how many people passed through the door before it closed? Could this be how they knew G returned either by the count of bodies moving through a door or maybe motion sensors in G’s room picked up 2 bodies? My own curiosity

 

[PaulaDC]

They don't need much dna and they may have had other forms than blood.
DNA Mixtures: A Forensic Science Explainer

 

[PaulaDC]

Oh yes, those devices are able to be turned off at will.

Or, turned on according to this:
A new Alexa feature will keep your house safe

 

[PaulaDC]

This is quite interesting. I don't own one but maybe someone else here knows about this. It definitely could keep someone one step ahead.......
How to set up and use Drop In on Amazon Echo devices

 

[Bbybluz]

I've added a few articles.

Justice for Gannon:
Justice For Gannon by amanda reckonwith

Your work is so appreciated TyTy

Were you the one that provided the mobile link for phones before? It worked for me last time and now I can’t find it sorry. TYIA

 

[DTPeke]

Speaking of ADT we seen how they can record the time stamp for opening & closing of doors & even motion sensing in certain rooms. Can it tell how many people passed through the door before it closed? Could this be how they knew G returned either by the count of bodies moving through a door or maybe motion sensors in G’s room picked up 2 bodies? My own curiosity

RSBM
ADT Door Sensors
They can not determine how many people enter the house.

It is a two piece magnetic contact sensor which sends a signal upon separation/contact i.e. when the door is open separating, then making contact again upon closing. One sensor would be on the door the other on the door frame.

ADT Motion Sensors
It is the motion detectors they are using to determine that two people are in the house. One person is in basement, the other upstairs.

My dogs never triggered any motion events. I am sure this could be determined from history/records.

I can not see LS triggering both motion sensors at once but I am sure it will be argued in court. That will be exciting. Eye roll. Yawn.

Attached is the virtual tour of the floor plan that was marketed with the listing for their house. I don't believe it is the actual house unless the buyer made changes orders. Social media posts show the house with a different bannister than wrought iron.
Explore The Lowell - Saint Aubyn Homes in 3D

 

[LietKynes]

Its clearly someone else's blood they are talking about in the trunk of the Kia Rio. Affidavit #62 and #63.

Letecia Stauch Arrest Affidavit

bbm
Wow.
That's interesting.

 

[Bbybluz]

RSBM
ADT Door Sensors
They can not determine how many people enter the house.

It is a two piece magnetic contact sensor which sends a signal upon separation/contact i.e. when the door is open separating, then making contact again upon closing. One sensor would be on the door the other on the door frame.

ADT Motion Sensors
It is the motion detectors they are using to determine that two people are in the house. One person is in basement, the other upstairs.

My dogs never triggered any motion events. I am sure this could be determined from history/records.

I can not see LS triggering both motion sensors at once but I am sure it will be argued in court. That will be exciting. Eye roll. Yawn.

Attached is the virtual tour of the floor plan that was marketed with the listing for their house. I don't believe it is the actual house unless the buyer made changes orders. Social media posts show the house with a different bannister than wrought iron.
Explore The Lowell - Saint Aubyn Homes in 3D

TY that was very informative! I wonder why dogs can’t set off the sensors?

 

[DTPeke]

I seriously doubt this will even be brought up at trial and ADT records have already proven that no one entered the residence while LS was on her oops shopping spree but

I wanted to attach these pictures showing what I think is the garage door key pad (Eguardo's alleged entry point) which looks to be in camera range and what appears to be a boy's bike on the porch (possibly Gannon's? for those wondering if his bike was missing).
ETA: word in poor taste

 

[DTPeke]

TY that was very informative! I wonder why dogs can’t set off the sensors?

Another poster upstream said the motion sensors made now can ignore motion by weight. Can you believe that!

I had my system about 9yrs ago and think they sensed height? I am really not sure. The ADT installer angled them and assured me my Pekingese would not trigger them....they were shortcakes though.

ETA: I also had window sensors which supposedly could detect breaking glass

 

[MassGuy]

Another poster upstream said the motion sensors made now can ignore motion by weight. Can you believe that!

I had my system about 9yrs ago and think they sensed height? I am really not sure. The ADT installer angled them and assured me my Pekingese would not trigger them....they were shortcakes though.

ETA: I also had window sensors which supposedly could detect breaking glass

Yeah, they can be set to account for the weight of any pets. They also have a separate feature that uses body heat to differentiate between human and animal.

Typically any small pet that weighs less than 40 pounds will be immune to these sensors. ADT monitoring offers pet-immune motion detectors that use heat sensors to tell the difference between your four-legged friend walking around the house and a human who may or may not have any business being there.

Motion Sensors | Motion Detectors | Indoor Security Sensors | ADT

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

Your work is so appreciated TyTy

Were you the one that provided the mobile link for phones before? It worked for me last time and now I can’t find it sorry. TYIA

Yes. Go to this pic and scroll. You can go either way, depending if you want to start at the begonning or the end.
Gannon (from facebook)

 

[JDough]

Yes, I agree with you that this was their reason and that this has become standard practice.

However, it is my opinion, no matter how unpopular, that it amounts to misleading the public in a lie.

BBM ^^^
Perhaps. However, LE had quite a bit of information given to them when Gannon was first reported as missing. This took several weeks to investigate. Based on the AA, we know investigators did a very through job. Did LE believe something nefarious happened in the home? Most likely. Did they know who, what, when, or where? Not at first. Trust me; TS was not the only person investigated prior to her arrest. The DA wouldn't dream of making an arrest and taking a case to trial if all avenues for alternate suspects have not been investigated.

I found the following article regarding the difference between a POI and a Suspect to be helpful in understanding why LE does not always disclose such information:

A “trial by media” encourages the public to come up with their own verdict of guilty or innocent, either before or after a verdict is actually handed down. [...]
There is a difference between a person of interest and a suspect. A suspect is someone whom police believe may actually have committed a crime being investigated. A person of interest is someone police want to talk to for information about the case. Sometimes a person of interest ends up becoming a suspect, but that is not always the case. A person of interest is not always suspected of having committed a crime.
Person of Interest - Definition, Examples, Cases, Processes

 

[Cindizzi]

I seriously doubt this will even be brought up at trial and ADT records have already proven that no one entered the residence while LS was on her oops shopping spree but

I wanted to attach these pictures showing what I think is the garage door key pad (Eguardo's alleged entry point) which looks to be in camera range and what appears to be a boy's bike on the porch (possibly Gannon's? for those wondering if his bike was missing).
ETA: word in poor taste

View attachment 242803 View attachment 242804

Good catch. I just had the same garage door installed in January and that’s exactly where my key pad is.

 

[MsBetsy]

Do we know of Laina had her own phone too? I don’t think I remember seeing it mentioned.


Were there photos of the garage & inside the house to view?


MOO No not with all domestic goddesses. You have certain supplies you trust to take care of the cleaning need. Too many supplies equal clutter & not organized in simple fashion.


I agree RD’s copy we seen was a copy from a copy probably recorded from a phone video. The original might look better but without his name on the list maybe his isn’t used. I was wondering if another neighbors name is on the list with a better quality or better angle is being used. I have seen a video from the neighbor to the right of AS’s house & it’s a nice view even of the gate & garage. It wasn’t pertaining to this case but of car thefts in the area & she mentions “there’s Gannon’s house & Al’s red truck”.

In response to your reply to mine, the fact that she needed 2 "things" of carpet cleaner, baking soda, and more vinegar (there was apparently already half a container full in the garage) indicates those things were used specifically to clean up the murder scene.

My point was that if she was just doing normal cleaning and she was "OCD" about cleaning, she would likely have some cleaning supplies on hand.
I believe there was 1/2 a gallon of vinegar left before Al left for his trip, which should have been more than enough for one weekend.

Imo