Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #45

[MiMi_x4]

I wonder if AS ever found out about T’s rap sheet and if so, when.

I'm don't know when AS and TS were married but if he has military security clearance then they would run a background check on the new spouse. The last I knew the check went back 10 years but I'm not sure anymore maybe they go back further than that now, especially with certain security clearances.

 

[Seattle1]

I'm reading about the weather around Pace, FL last winter and I'm wondering if the Escambia River was flooded when LS chose that bridge? I can only find photos of
I-90 when GS body located. I'm amazed that GS body was located!

 

[BitchieBlackmore]

So even if these defense attorneys know their client is guilty they will still get up there and lie, and try to get them off, right?

Its tricky, and It doesn’t really matter what their gut feeling is. If the client disclosed the truth to the lawyer, their job is to basically dispute the guilty charge without lying . Lawyers aren’t allowed to knowingly allow their client to commit perjury. They can circumvent this by not allowing their client to take the stand, and not providing false testimony themselves ( like in closing arguments) but can still debate guilt by questioning evidence and witness testimony, etc.

I seriously doubt TS will admit anything to her lawyer. Therefore the lawyer can put her on the stand and make statements that they wouldn’t be ethically allowed to make if they knew with 100 percent certainty.

I hope this makes sense. In summary, it all comes down to what the lawyer actually knows, and not allowing her to KNOWINGLY commit perjury.

the act of balancing ethics and constitutional rights must be challenging for a criminal defense lawyer.

 

[BitchieBlackmore]

So even if these defense attorneys know their client is guilty they will still get up there and lie, and try to get them off, right?

Its tricky, and It doesn’t really matter what their gut feeling is. If the client disclosed the truth to the lawyer, their job is to basically dispute the guilty charge without lying . Lawyers aren’t allowed to knowingly allow their client to commit perjury. They can circumvent this by not allowing their client to take the stand, and not providing false testimony themselves ( like in closing arguments) but can still debate guilt by questioning evidence and witness testimony, etc.

I seriously doubt TS will admit anything to her lawyer. Therefore the lawyer can put her on the stand and make statements that they wouldn’t be ethically allowed to make if they knew with 100 percent certainty.

I hope this makes sense. In summary, it all comes down to what the lawyer actually knows, and not allowing her to KNOWINGLY commit perjury.

the act of balancing ethics and constitutional rights must be challenging for a criminal defense lawyer.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I understood that LS rented the Rio on the pretense that she was going to drive around looking for GS -- stating that it would be best for her to be driving a vehicle that he did not recognize -- fearful of getting in trouble. (And she added the excuse about not wanting to add mileage to the leased VW for an extra touch of LS drama).

Although we did not know for certain, LS certainly knew GS was dead and where she stashed his lifeless body long before she collected AS from the airport.

Guilty, I can't imagine LS wanting to be anywhere near AS or LH (that were truly worried, anxious, distraught) knowing they'd confront her with crucial questions that she could not answer or catch her in more lies. No way was LS going to give them that chance! For example, investigators reported that LS never went to any of the neighbors to inquire about GS or whether or not he'd been seen. LS did not call any of his friends. LS did nothing that a prudent parent of a missing child would do.

IMO, the disconnect was that LS had just killed their child yet she was also put out that her archenemy was crying and pacing in her own home together with her husband!

On the other hand, if GS had disappeared through no fault of LS, I don't doubt that we would have found LS side by side GS parents-- trying to get on TV, set up a command post, organize searches, etc-- all for the attention, praise, and adulation that LS desperately craves.

Instead, LS immediately went to CYA mode, defending herself before it was necessary.

And worst of all, she clearly took gaslighting LH up a few notches in reaction to her own guilt and evil act.

MOO

Yes I am up to date on all that. So the answer to my question is that she told AS and LH she was going to stay out all night searching for Gannon in the Rio? That is the news I missed I guess.

I asked the reason why she didn’t stay at home with Al Tuesday night because I never saw a reason stated in the news. So I guess her saying she was searching for Gannon was as good as any.

She never understands that when she opens her mouth she doesn’t make any sense.

 

[Hatfield]

Its tricky, and It doesn’t really matter what their gut feeling is. If the client disclosed the truth to the lawyer, their job is to basically dispute the guilty charge without lying . Lawyers aren’t allowed to knowingly allow their client to commit perjury. They can circumvent this by not allowing their client to take the stand, and not providing false testimony themselves ( like in closing arguments) but can still debate guilt by questioning evidence and witness testimony, etc.

I seriously doubt TS will admit anything to her lawyer. Therefore the lawyer can put her on the stand and make statements that they wouldn’t be ethically allowed to make if they knew with 100 percent certainty.

I hope this makes sense. In summary, it all comes down to what the lawyer actually knows, and not allowing her to KNOWINGLY commit perjury.

the act of balancing ethics and constitutional rights must be challenging for a criminal defense lawyer.

You explained it well and it is tricky for them but like you mentioned there are tactics and ways that a defense attorney can still defend their client.

As the defense attorney begins preparations, some of the tricky parts is they want to learn as much as possible what actually happened so that they can determine what LE has likely found out before they get discovery turned over to them. But they usually dont want to hear their client admit to cold blooded murder so they will use tactics and instruct their client to phrase things hypothetically. Like she could say to him/her

"Hypothetically, lets suppose I did overreact to an incident in the home which caused an initial injury and things got out of hand....."

Tactics like that allow the defendant to share details of the crime with their attorney without admitting guilt.

Her lawyer probably already knows she is guilty already because remember how we saw the attorney's statements to her about not being able to meet with her in the jail because they cannot guarantee privacy.
That right there tells us what they need to discuss is probably going to be pretty damning and incriminating information about TS. The attorney probably already knows that whatever comes out of her mouth is probably not going to make her look like Mother Theresa.

 

[Love Never Fails]

She was at the house after picking up AS and coming back from the airport. It was during that time that she was approached by RD concerning the video, which she refused to view; dismissing it as not important. (per interviews with RD and wife.) Per the affidavit: LE asked for Gannon's toothbrush between 2:04pm and 2:17pm. T texts AS about this at 2:31 to 2:33pm: Letecia- “Something isn't right I think they are hiding something.”
Al Stauch- “Who”,”the police?”
Letecia- “Yes” , “They asked for tooth brushes.”
Al Stauch- “hmm”, “what do u think they're hiding?”

At some point after that text at 2:33pm, T does leave and arrives at the airport to get the Tiguan by 7:00pm. I suspect it is during this time frame that RD approaches AS without T around and shows him the video. This is the point where AS breaks down, and LE is notified about it. LE wastes no time. This has them fully alerted now. And AS now knows she is suspect in his son's disappearance. This is the place where she lost control of the narrative.

By the time T makes it to Comfort and Powers, and HH picks her up, she is no longer allowed back to the house. Hence the text T sent to LE at 10:45pm that night.
This is all my theory based on the affidavit timelines and the ms interviews with RD, and is only my opinion.

Ok but if T is texting Al on Tuesday afternoon at 2:31 pm, why aren’t they at home together?

 

[Love Never Fails]

CA doesn't deserve the credit IMO all she did was listen to her lawyer, who played the game perfectly.

TS can't afford a lawyer like CA's, and with all of the evidence, no lawyer will risk their reputation defending her for free publicity. She's too volatile and waaaaay too guilty.

She had a lawyer? I don’t think so. Who was it?
I’m talking of before she was arrested.

 

[Gardenkeep]

Does anyone find the pictures that TS took of Gannon in bed odd??? The positioning of them is strange to me. I've taken pictures of my kids (and grandkids) sleeping and I don't think I've taken pictures from the foot of the bed. The purpose of taking pictures to show how cute they look so I shoot the cam where you can see their faces or if they are holding a toy close. The photos in the AA are grainy but still I find them to be a little odd and creepy to be taken from the feet up. I wonder if there were other pictures and was she taking snapshots of his room so she could remember the set up in case things got out of hand that day?

I suspect that those were taken to send AS. She'd set up the home sick from school scenario, and this was proof of that. What is significant about these photos is the comparison to the BAC from that evening when LE was taking the runaway report. The bedding is completely different.

 

[Inthedetails]

People with high IQ’s have made the same decision, as they are too arrogant to see the writing on the wall.

She’s doubly screwed.

I think obviously-guilty people go through with the trial as a last-ditch hope that prosecution will screw up and they will either get a not-guilty verdict (Casey Anthony) or a reason to appeal.

They are trying to save their liberty and we have that right in USA, even if it seems arrogant and a waste of time in many cases. The burden is on the government to prove guilt not on the accused to prove innocence....that's a right worth honoring as the alternative is dangerous for everyone.

(Guess I'm feeling a bit patriotic, lol! Even as I find TS guilty, guilty, guilty!)

jmo

 

[Hatfield]

Yes I am up to date on all that. So the answer to my question is that she told AS and LH she was going to stay out all night searching for Gannon in the Rio? That is the news I missed I guess.

I asked the reason why she didn’t stay at home with Al Tuesday night because I never saw a reason stated in the news. So I guess her saying she was searching for Gannon was as good as any.

She never understands that when she opens her mouth she doesn’t make any sense.

Its a little grey for me too about the parts when she took AS home from the airport. Would have loved to be a fly in the backseat of the rental on way home.

I suspect AS was already wondering if he was getting any truth from LS and once AS got to see the neighbor's video, that was the straw that broke the camels back for him. He no longer had any doubt she was lying to him about that and about other things.

I think AS and LH booted her out of the house along with some shouting but AS was probably instructed by LE at some point to keep an open channel to her to get as much information as possible from her. Which is why we see additional texts between them after she had left.

Once AS got to speak with LE, he did a pretty good job IMO of keeping an open channel to her with text messaging and I believe the whole time he already knew she was totally guilty of whatever happened to him to be missing.

 

[Inthedetails]

They may know but not know-know, ya' know?

Gitana (where is she, by the way?) reminds us that these defense attorneys are most often defending people they pretty well know are guilty.

Seems like a hard way to make a living, doesn't it, after you look at autopsy pictures of a little boy?

Everyone is entitled to a defense, even the worst of criminals. Think of the alternative, if we didn't provide for a defense, then LE and the courts could just say, "you're guilty, go to jail!" to anyone they felt like, whether guilty or not. No, we don't want that.

The defense team isn't just defending the criminal but making sure the judicial process is fair and conducted properly and transparently for everyone. And the yucky criminals benefit. (And we all do, as a society, in the bigger picture.)

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

Its a little grey for me too about the parts when she took AS home from the airport. Would have loved to be a fly in the backseat of the rental on way home.

I suspect AS was already wondering if he was getting any truth from LS and once AS got to see the neighbor's video, that was the straw that broke the camels back for him. He no longer had any doubt she was lying to him about that and about other things.

I think AS and LH booted her out of the house along with some shouting but AS was probably instructed by LE at some point to keep an open channel to her to get as much information as possible from her. Which is why we see additional texts between them after she had left.

Once AS got to speak with LE, he did a pretty good job IMO of keeping an open channel to her with text messaging and I believe the whole time he already knew she was totally guilty.

Yes, Tuesday activities during the day are murky. Did she drive AS directly home and then leave again, which is what I think. She was then "missing" all day but keeping in random touch with AS, HH, and LE, imo. But when did the neighbor come over to offer his videos and TS turned him down? Must have been Tuesday? Then neighbor showed to AS when TS wasn't around.

Anyone have a good understanding of that timing?

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

Thinking about how long TS had been planning the murder, I keep going back to AS's mom had just departed on Saturday after staying with them for awhile. I think the visit was not fun for TS and her resentment and anger grew during that visit.

AS and MIL left on Saturday. She took the kids hiking on Sunday....and then everything went downhill.

jmo

 

[Fireflize]

Ok but if T is texting Al on Tuesday afternoon at 2:31 pm, why aren’t they at home together?

Could be AS wanted to meet LE alone, because he already knew T wasn't making sense. Speculation. Moo

 

[watergirl62]

Looking back, I think LS was facing many stressors beginning in 2019.

Financial.

I don't know if LS was gainfully employed earlier but she did not get her Colorado teaching credentials until spring 2019, and by November had resigned her full-time position. When she was rehired at a different school district in January 2020, she had to know that she was on shaky ground (falsified her application). It was a 50/50 situation whether they'd catch her.

Empty nest.

In a blended household, LS had an ally with HH. LS owned HH. Seems HH was the only constant in LS life. It was reported that HH was in an early entry program with the AF which means LS would not have easy access or control of her. For the first time, LS was going to be alone with only AS and his children. LS probably saw her life soon becoming the lonely, unemployed babysitter of her absent husband's children.

Bad Marriage.

From the beginning, this marriage was on a weak foundation. LS compensated for the truth of these cracks by knocking LH every chance she got-- whether it be in family court or constant manipulation and parental alienation of GS and his sister.

LS's psychological makeup is clearly that of one that needs to knock others down to elevate herself. At one time, (besides one of her rapist's abducting GS), LS alleged AS was not GS bio-father (which LH hid from him), and GS bio dad was responsible for his disappearance. That's some deep wound stuff to allege about another family. (I believe LS tried to allude to this allegation during an interview with Crimeonline but they would not engage her).

Jealousy of LH.

While there's been much speculation here that LS felt threatened by LH and the possibility that she and AS would reunite, and that this might even be the motive for her to kill GS, I don't think so. I don't think there was any evidence that this would happen other than a natural fear of someone that took somebody that was not hers to take. Since LS arrest especially, there are numerous youtube videos about this case with clips of testy phone conversations between AS and LH that were recorded by LS, and uploaded to her sm. Again, I can think of no reason to take this action but to satisfy LS's need to promote herself as the hero and LH the dirty, villain.

You can't leave me.

From LS google searches revealed in the AA, did LS fear AS wanted to end their marriage? It did not go unnoticed that AS left home on Saturday for his military duty when his flight to OK was not until Sunday. I don't think this was a happy family home with respect, peace, and harmony. I'm convinced that LS's beliefs are that she controls, nobody leaves her, and you will pay if you go against my wishes. I think she murdered GS for no other reason than to hurt AS and LH before they could insult her. Yes, "insult" her. I see LS as yet another insult collector, and what really scares me is that she most likely feels that whatever she did to GS, her actions were justified.

MOO

Great post/ summary of her stressors, Seattle.
Thanks!

I think the role of babysitter was a prime stress and source of resentment, like you mentioned under empty nest.
When you cant be the puppet master, you must be the victim.

Does anyone know the timeline on the two AS marriages?
I don't have a feel for that. TIA.

 

[Fireflize]

Thinking about how long TS had been planning the murder, I keep going back to AS's mom had just departed on Saturday after staying with them for awhile. I think the visit was not fun for TS and her resentment and anger grew during that visit.

AS and MIL left on Saturday. She took the kids hiking on Sunday....and then everything went downhill.

jmo

I have to wonder if Gannon was sad, upset or cried when his grandmother and dad left. That would have really pissed T off. Moo

 

[Hatfield]

JMO
One thing I find interesting about TS is how TS always thought that she could easily just take a fake picture, make up a fake excuse, send some fake text messages, take a fake lie detector test, and she expected AS would just trust her then and all would be ok. Not.

It doesnt work that way TS in a good loving and trusting relationship. If you get to the point where you are doing things like that, it is already failing in the trust department.

 

[Inthedetails]

I have to wonder if Gannon was sad, upset or cried when his grandmother and dad left. That would have really pissed T off. Moo

I think so too.

I think resentment took control of her, and the urge to create chaos/drama started on Saturday, though perhaps not into murder plans until Sunday late night.

jmo

 

[Honey_West]

Here for Gannon!!