Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #45

[MassGuy]

The chances of the image captured on Monday at 10:16 AM leaving the house with LS not being GS are too great for me. Who else could it be? (AA #31).

If surveillance video is GS then it doesn't follow that he's deceased in his bed on Monday morning. MOO

Exactly. He walked to that car.

Gannon’s sister was in school, and TS didn’t borrow a kid. Gannon was alive, and not murdered on Sunday.

 

[Mito]

There was obviously no reasonable suspicion of a crime when LE came to their fragrant, home on Monday -- they thought GS ran away.

Assuming the suitcase with GS inside was beneath the folded seats inside the VW, perhaps LS was counting on her astute, crime story knowledge that LE would need a signed search warrant to find the suitcase that was out of view.

I still think it odd. He’d been missing since 3:15 reportedly and LE was called in the evening and took hours to show up. An 11 year old kid running away in possible snow and they didn’t sense something was awry? I believe imo kids that age say things for drama but usually rerun more quickly.

 

[Angels27]

Exactly. He walked to that car.

Gannon’s sister was in school, and TS didn’t borrow a kid. Gannon was alive, and not murdered on Sunday.

Alive, but I still contend the bleeding happened prior to 10 am, probably prior to 8. I think she bandaged him up and got him out of there for good. No way do I believe she dragged a 90 lb body in a suitcase up those stairs and into vehicle herself. That’s just one of many reasons I say this.

 

[Teche]

I guess that’s possible. I took it to mean that she always trusted her. It just sounded like a strange remark to me.

I don’t see how Landen could have trusted either of them. Now since she was hospitalized and couldn’t care for the children, I understand her back was against the wall so of necessity she had to trust them to care for the kids but that remark from her at the press conference sounded like they were friends. Just strange.

I gathered from reading on this threat early on that Tee and LH were friends while Gannon’s parents were married.

 

[MassGuy]

Alive, but I still contend the bleeding happened prior to 10 am, probably prior to 8. I think she bandaged him up and got him out of there for good.

I think there was some blood before then, as she likely abused him on Sunday night.

I do not believe that the blood splatter was caused during that event though, but occurred during the murder itself.

An event that caused that much blood would have necessitated removing the linen on the bed. She took a photo that morning, and blood would have likely been very evident.

So it makes sense that the murder occurred after they returned, which is when she cleaned up, removing the linen.

 

[Angels27]

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You’re asking about the break-ins pic, right? I’ve only seen it once that I can remember n it was posted somewhere regarding some neighborhood watch thing that TS replied to. But that was way before this crime. It may have given TS the idea tho about blaming a home intruder albeit after the fact. You can probably find it online In one of those YouTube crime channels. That’s probably were I saw it originally.

 

[Angels27]

I think there was some blood before then, as she likely abused him on Sunday night.

I do not believe that the blood splatter was caused during that event though, but occurred during the murder itself.

An event that caused that much blood would have necessitated removing the linen on the bed. She took a photo that morning, and blood would have likely been very evident.

So it makes sense that the murder occurred after they returned, which is when she cleaned up, removing the linen.

The linens don’t match, so others online are saying by 8 am she had already changed them out. And what about the bed being moved away from wall by 8 am? Or possibly she just cleaned walls and strategically positioned the blankets to hide any blood and cleaned that up later.

 

[Cindizzi]

I still think it odd. He’d been missing since 3:15 reportedly and LE was called in the evening and took hours to show up. An 11 year old kid running away in possible snow and they didn’t sense something was awry? I believe imo kids that age say things for drama but usually rerun more quickly.

Well he hadn’t really been “missing” since 3:15 - 4:00 . That’s the time frame LS told them he left the house. She called 911 at 6:55 and said “ he should have been home an hour ago (dark, when the streetlights come on). In my opinion, she only called at that time because AS was aware that his son was not home, even though he was out of town. I’m betting that LS played it very down key. We didn’t have any snow in January, it was unseasonably warm. That changed a few days later. But I get what you are saying. I’m very hesitant to criticize local LE, but I hope they learned something here for < God forbid> future cases.
This statement has always stuck with me :

Jacqueline Kirby with the EPSCO said it hasn't dealt with a similar situation since 2015 and that they are doing everything they can to bring Gannon home safe.
https://www.koaa.com/search-continues-for-missing-11-year-old-boy-in-el-paso-county

Ive lived here since 1998 and not sure what she is referencing.
JMO

 

[GordianKnot]

Did I dream this little video or does anybody remember a video that came out showing movement late at night/pre-dawn around a car with a few dark figures moving around a car on LS’s street and then a car coming down the road with headlights headed in that direction?

I have looked and looked and can’t find again. It was only up for a short time from what I recall.

For some reason I thought it was the Sunday night/early AM in the dark before the Monday morning of G’s departure with LS.

Anybody?

I don't specifically recall seeing a moving video, but I distinctly remember seeing a series of stills from RD's surveillance footage taken at night that appeared to show what *could* have been shadowy figures around a car, as well as headlights coming toward the direction of the camera.

Is that what you're thinking of, maybe?

 

[Margrock]

A lot of people who have been analyzing this case outside of here are saying that no one knows when she cleaned the blood off the walls and they think he was already dead in the clearly staged pic at 8 am. He sure looks either dead or seriously injured in the new clearer photo where he is clearly propped up on at least 3 pillows, not laying down like a normal “sleeping” child. And what’s with the suitcase being at the foot of bed under blanket with him!? It is so obvious that’s a suitcase. Also the bed’s away from wall by then. Hmmm, right? But if he is already dead then WHO was that that walked to car with her? Does her “aunt” have a kid or someone else she knows. OR... is it possible that he did all of that bleeding out prior to photo and she cleaned up blood and he was still somehow able to meander out to the truck n sit on a seat cover, if he was still bleeding. I wonder if he could have lost that much blood, then she put bandages or wrapped something around it like cloth and duct taped it on him and then got him out to truck standing, that morning. That is a possibility, maybe. They say people can lose a lot of blood and still walk. My sister who’s a surgeon says it depends on where the blood was emanating from. Arterial bleeding, DOA. I can remember a few times cutting myself so badly that blood was squirting everywhere. I just needed stitches and lived thru it. Just maybe he did bleed a lot, she cleaned it up walls, drugged him to sleep thru night while girls were still there, taped up his wounds in am, and got him out to truck, drove off with suitcase, which we see bouncing n truck bed as she’s leaving, and left him somewhere, returned, and cleaned up the rest. Otherwise, why spend FOUR hours out on a very strategically planned outing. That’s my theory.

Also, do we know from AA when she came up for air on Sunday night - Monday morning from her crazy Google searches? Anyone have the timeframe? That’s probably when she did her staging n cleaning.

Where can I find this "new, clearer photo"? Was this in the affidavit? TIA.

 

[GordianKnot]

I gathered from reading on this threat early on that Tee and LH were friends while Gannon’s parents were married.

That's what I gathered, too.

I also gathered that the friendship became somewhat strained when LH discovered that AS was boinking LH.

Probably didn't help the marriage much, either.

JMO.

 

[Warwick7]

It’s not my contention that he was deceased in pic. I say: wounded n drugged. But pic is definitely staged. Other people online think he looks dead there. I do not think he is dead tho obviously for the reason u mentioned. If u read my entire post u will see my theory. Same as always, but more detailed now having seen the new photo.

Good comment

 

[Shekkiec]

I have another question. Something so asked awhile back but I don't know if I got it answered.

TS said: “When we came back inside from the smoke there was blood on both of us. I didn’t know what to do. I was scared I would get fussed out about it and I don’t know if he should go to the doctor. I kept trying to add the candle thing but Albert kept saying it was small and minor. I was scared the basement was smoky and when I threw the cover everything we both had blood.”

Ummm.....who's "the both of us" or who's "we both had blood"??

There were four people living in that house. Why is she only taking GS outside if there's smoke, why not the other two children????

Where was this quote from? I had not read it!wow!

 

[Warwick7]

Where was this quote from? I had not read it!wow!

Its in the AA. I don't have it in front of me at the moment. Maybe some has the # it is from.

 

[GordianKnot]

Where was this quote from? I had not read it!wow!

It's located in the Arrest Affidavit, where LE is describing texts TS made to investigators.

*ETA: Page 20, Item #133 of the affidavit.
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/El_Paso/Stauch/Stauch FINAL redacted 040120.pdf

JMO.

 

[Warwick7]

Where can I find this "new, clearer photo"? Was this in the affidavit? TIA.

Last night Tricia recommended youtube WTAF. Its there. It was on Tricia's live.
We just can't discuss it here, at least until it is verified.

 

[MassGuy]

Its in the AA. I don't have it in front of me at the moment. Maybe some has the # it is from.

#133 https://www.courts.state.co.us/user..._Paso/Stauch/Stauch FINAL redacted 040120.pdf

 

[Warwick7]

#133

Thanks Mass and Gordian!

 

[Janeumayer]

You know how LS always hides a truth inside a lie? I still remember her tsplaining the truck footage. She said the footage was from the wrong day. I still wonder if Gannon walking towards and getting into the truck is completely unrelated.

 

[Seattle1]

Well he hadn’t really been “missing” since 3:15 - 4:00 . That’s the time frame LS told them he left the house. She called 911 at 6:55 and said “ he should have been home an hour ago (dark, when the streetlights come on). In my opinion, she only called at that time because AS was aware that his son was not home, even though he was out of town. I’m betting that LS played it very down key. We didn’t have any snow in January, it was unseasonably warm. That changed a few days later. But I get what you are saying. I’m very hesitant to criticize local LE, but I hope they learned something here for < God forbid> future cases.
This statement has always stuck with me :

Jacqueline Kirby with the EPSCO said it hasn't dealt with a similar situation since 2015 and that they are doing everything they can to bring Gannon home safe.
https://www.koaa.com/search-continues-for-missing-11-year-old-boy-in-el-paso-county

Ive lived here since 1998 and not sure what she is referencing.
JMO

Maybe JK with EPSCO was referring to this being her first case (since 2015) where a missing boy did not come home on his own or without police assistance.

I'm recalling a post presser comment by EPCSO spokesperson when questions were flying about Amber Alert and GS initial runaway status where the spokesperson explained how in the majority of reports where juvenile males are reported missing, they are soon resolved without police intervention. The example was GS dad was out of town...., and LE would not have been surprised to learn that GS spent the night at a friend's house without contacting LS and had come home by morning.

I also think that it wasn't until AS (and later LH) made direct contact with EPCSO and affirmed that GS did not have friends that would shelter him past curfew and his not coming home totally out of character did LE step it up a notch and dig deeper. I'll never believe that LS did anything more than go through the motions of filing the report, and probably nodded in agreement when they suggested GS would likely be home by morning if not before. Nope, there was zero urgency by LS in this matter. MOO