Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #10

[MsBetsy]

Did anyone else notice in the LE press conference the female representative’s body language, mainly her facial expressions and eye movements when she was being asked about LS??? The disdain and utter annoyance was off the charts! lol!

Yes, she looked up towards the ceiling. The first time she did it I thought she was about to do a complete eyeroll but stopped herself. If anything she seemed annoyed everytime there was a question about TS.

Jmo

 

[toevlugsoord]

Wow, yes around 6:38/6:39 on this YT version of the full video I also see a shadow move at the top and the bottom right where that rear door would be. I never thought to look at the top, just the bottom. I now also think he got out there! Wow.

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[BloodHoundSleuther]

She doesn't care about that in this very moment, though, IMO; as she's clearly all impulses and very little pre-thinking about the impulses.

All she cares about is getting her hands on Gannon's "apologies"; or making it clear to everyone that she deserves apologies from Gannon; and she thinks we couldn't possibly disagree with this, if only we knew that ever-shifting monolith called "The Truth".

If TS doesn't wind up charged with a crime after a certain amount of time, I don't think she'll have any qualms fleeing back to NC. She's not tied to anything or anyone, not really, not when anything else is juxtaposed against her own self-interest.

This will probably surprise some of the "TS supporters" over there in Facebookland, as they will have believed the "insider" first-hand assertions (made by TS), that nothing is more important to TS than "The Truth"; whatever it may cost, and that to this end, she will do whatever it takes and hang on in Colorado until the Twelfth of Never.

The problem with this is, these supporters just don't have any frame of reference for her definition of "The Truth".



My take is, she is trying to lay claim to him in the eyes of the public, and/or make the public believe they are reconciled.

I don't think it has nearly so much to do with staking a claim to AS, because surely she knows whether or not AS ever intends to see (the front of) her head again by now.

I think it has more to do with "Hey, he's not saying anything and hasn't for multiple days; he's not denying. This gives me a chance to let the public infer that we've reconciled whether it is in fact true or not; because I care very much about the public's opinion of me."

Let AS say it; then I'll believe it.

I agree on this, she's trying to paint a picture that doesn't exist! While probably also hoping to hurt Gannon's Mom even more....if that's even humanly possible! She's really diabolical. Anything to keep the focus on her and cause undue strife. Sickening! She has a very unhealthy need for attention and drama. Sadly I know someone just like this. People like this are known to deflect, lie, gaslight...whatever it takes...even as far as to be the hero's in their own sick fairy tales. It scares me not only for Gannon, but anyone else in her path!

 

[casesensitive]

In most cases of a child "disappearing" where a parent, significant other or step-parent is suspected of being involved, there is almost always prior, documented involvement by Child Protective Services. This doesn't seem to be the case in Gannon's case, which is atypical, and note worthy.

An explanation may be since Gannon has only been living full time with his dad and SM for two years, it's possible that any resentment and abuse that may have been steadily increasing, hadn't reached a peak to be blatant enough to be reported by his school, a doctor or a neighbor. Even if there were some concerns at school, SM would be considered a respected, highly educated, intelligent person, and would likely be believed if any problems were noted, and needed explanations. That is pure speculation since there are no reports from his school, nor anyone else that I am aware of. I only mention it in case something becomes known later. But there are no CPS reports (which the media zero in on), no school documentation of suspected abuse, no reports of neighbors or Gannon's friends' parents reporting abuse or neglect, or any family members reporting abuse. These reports, if the exist, may not be made public at this time, but some usually find their way to the media. I don't read Social Media posts and perhaps I have missed some gossip, which I would choose to ignore regardless.

I have seen cases where both care givers were implicit with ongoing child abuse, which seems to be the most common pattern. I have seen cases where a care giver is innocent, but is in denial and he or she didn't realize that their child was in danger, despite red flags, or actual evidence, which never rings true. I have seen cases where a parent will cut off family relationships if one or more complain about abuse, or report a significant other to CPS. They are the parent who is being masterly manipulated by their significant other and have their head buried in the sand, and have chosen their need for a mate over their children's well being.

I'm not sure what family dynamics have transpired in the Stauch household before Gannon went missing, but I don't think AS would call LE, and cut his wife out of his life so quickly after seeing a blurry video, unless he knew in his heart that she was capable of harming his son. To me, that speaks volumes to her relationship to Gannon from a husband and father's perspective who knows her well.

 

[MsBetsy]

(file of neighbor's video attached)

I re-watched the neighbor's video, concentrated on the top rear of the vehicle.

I see the shadow on the ground but I also see the very top of the rear passenger door for a brief moment just as the shadow appears.

I am now 100% convinced the rear passenger-side door opened and someone exited the vehicle the same time SM opened the driver-side door.

I've attached a video file, cropped to focus on the rear area of the vehicle. I've added an arrow that points to the top edge area of the truck that you should focus on as you watch it. You will see the very top edge of the rear passenger door (only a few pixels but it's there) open then close, and it coincides with the shadow seen on the ground below the vehicle.

I can not locate my pro video editing apps with overlay capability so I came up with a makeshift solution to add the arrow.

All I'm seeing is a black screen.

 

[ZhaZhaHa]

Ok I REALLY almost jumped on the “they orchestrated a plan to raise money (reward), to help pay for things and once a reward goes up she’ll re-appear him” bandwagon. Almost. But truly that cannot be it.

 

[LovesPeace2]

Did anyone else notice in the LE press conference the female representative’s body language, mainly her facial expressions and eye movements when she was being asked about LS??? The disdain and utter annoyance was off the charts! lol!

Yep when she was asked if they were protecting the step she said this is about Gannon that’s what we’re focused on

 

[catch_22]

(file of neighbor's video attached)

I re-watched the neighbor's video, concentrated on the top rear of the vehicle.

I see the shadow on the ground but I also see the very top of the rear passenger door for a brief moment just as the shadow appears.

I am now 100% convinced the rear passenger-side door opened and someone exited the vehicle the same time SM opened the driver-side door.

I've attached a video file, cropped to focus on the rear area of the vehicle. I've added an arrow that points to the top edge area of the truck that you should focus on as you watch it. You will see the very top edge of the rear passenger door (only a few pixels but it's there) open then close, and it coincides with the shadow seen on the ground below the vehicle.

I can not locate my pro video editing apps with overlay capability so I came up with a makeshift solution to add the arrow.

I have to respectfully disagree. If that was the door, I think we would see more and more of it as it opened wider (because camera is higher than truck).

Also, IF that was the edge of the door, he would be stepping out forward (towards the front of the truck) of that "door edge".

You can clearly see the ground there: No shoes. No legs.

JMO

 

[ChuckMaureen]

All I'm seeing is a black screen.

The video codec required to view the video is likely not installed on your device.

 

[toevlugsoord]

I don't know, my 11-year-old can't really open/close our big SUV's heavy doors. I can see him opening just a small amount of the door and jumping out - maybe??

I can't believe I'm actually thinking she is telling the truth about him coming back with her. This case is so bizarre and so sad.

 

[Silverheels]

I honestly do not know.
LE will not divulge the locations searched, probably because t could alert a perpetrator who may move him if they feel an area has been CLEARED. Interestingly that is a word she used in her ridiculous statement.. it is invariably applied toOh

I honestly do not know.
LE will not divulge the locations searched, probably because t could alert a perpetrator who may move him if they feel an area has been CLEARED. Interestingly that is a word she used in her ridiculous statement.. it is invariably applied to search locations in my experience.

Hmmm. I feel as if I shouldn’t have posted the search address. It didn’t seem like a secret since MSM was there.

 

[jvikes]

I have to respectfully disagree. If that was the door, I think we would see more and more of it as it opened wider (because camera is higher than truck).

Also, IF that was the edge of the door, he would be stepping out forward (towards the front of the truck) of that "door edge".

You can clearly see the ground there: No shoes. No legs.

JMO

But...and I'm not saying a spec of black is a person...but given how she adjusted in the driveway it could be tight. And a crew cab truck has 4 doors that open forward. A person exiting a tight squeeze could barely have a foot directly under the door, and would likely be standing next to the bed of the truck when they get out. Again, there is zero proof of a person exiting the truck from the video that's out there, so it's all speculation.

Source: Have been in crew cabs many times where the driver gives me an inch of space to get out.

 

[Winterhike]

In most cases of a child "disappearing" where a parent, significant other or step-parent is suspected of being involved, there is almost always prior, documented involvement by Child Protective Services. This doesn't seem to be the case in Gannon's case, which is atypical, and note worthy.

An explanation may be since Gannon has only been living full time with his dad and SM for two years, it's possible that any resentment and abuse that may have been steadily increasing, hadn't reached a peak to be blatant enough to be reported by his school, a doctor or a neighbor. Even if there were some concerns at school, SM would be considered a respected, highly educated, intelligent person, and would likely be believed if any problems were noted, and needed explanations. That is pure speculation since there are no reports from his school, nor anyone else that I am aware of. I only mention it in case something becomes known later. But there are no CPS reports (which the media zero in on), no school documentation of suspected abuse, no reports of neighbors or Gannon's friends' parents reporting abuse or neglect, or any family members reporting abuse. These reports, if the exist, may not be made public at this time, but some usually find their way to the media. I don't read Social Media posts and perhaps I have missed some gossip, which I would choose to ignore regardless.

I have seen cases where both care givers were implicit with ongoing child abuse, which seems to be the most common pattern. I have seen cases where a care giver is innocent, but is in denial and he or she didn't realize that their child was in danger, despite red flags, or actual evidence, which never rings true. I have seen cases where a parent will cut off family relationships if one or more complain about abuse, or report a significant other to CPS. They are the parent who is being masterly manipulated by their significant other and have their head buried in the sand, and have chosen their need for a mate over their children's well being.

I'm not sure what family dynamics have transpired in the Stauch household before Gannon went missing, but I don't think AS would call LE, and cut his wife out of his life so quickly after seeing a blurry video, unless he knew in his heart that she was capable of harming his son. To me, that speaks volumes to her relationship to Gannon from a husband and father's perspective who knows her well.

Bold by me. Another relatively common explanation for abuse, neglect, or mistreatment to escalate or materialize when it has never been documented by CPS (or whatever other agency) is that something in the dynamic of the household has recently changed, often something that has nothing to do with the child.
Things like financial stress, marital discord, medical bills, recent trauma or loss, or deteriorating mental health can all make for a scenario in which a previously safe home situation becomes unsafe for children.

This is all speculating because we don't know if anything like this happened in the Stauch family, but if LS was once a more functional person/parent than she has been recently (not saying this is fact; maybe she's always been just as she has presented herself this week and last), maybe it's worth considering why.

 

[SIABB1]

Here for Gannon and praying that he is found very soon. Hopefully tomorrow is the day. Our whole family has been sick this week but he and his mom have been on my mind too. My heart hurts so much for him, his mom and all his family that loves him.

 

[catch_22]

Ok I REALLY almost jumped on the “they orchestrated a plan to raise money (reward), to help pay for things and once a reward goes up she’ll re-appear him” bandwagon. Almost. But truly that cannot be it.

Wow. I mean, I'm sure that wouldn't be the first or last time someone tried that. So many questions. Who all is in on it? I guess Gannon would probably have to be.....

Didn't she possibly recently lose her job? Hmmm?

Is dad in on it? Bio-mom?

Is there any way to disprove the possibility?

MOO

 

[ChuckMaureen]

I have to respectfully disagree. If that was the door, I think we would see more and more of it as it opened wider (because camera is higher than truck).

Also, IF that was the edge of the door, he would be stepping out forward (towards the front of the truck) of that "door edge".

You can clearly see the ground there: No shoes. No legs.

JMO

Maybe, but...

The shadow is undeniable. It's there, and it coincides with the blip we see at the top edge of the vehicle.

The camera is installed at a height taller than the top of the truck but it is also 'behind' the vehicle (not 90° perpendicular to the side of the truck) and also at a distance. The distance between the camera and the truck is enough to negate seeing much of the top of that rear door. I'm basing my opinion on my photography experience.

 

[ZhaZhaHa]

Wow. I mean, I'm sure that wouldn't be the first or last time someone tried that. So many questions. Who all is in on it? I guess Gannon would probably have to be.....

Didn't she possibly recently lose her job? Hmmm?

Is dad in on it? Bio-mom?

Is there any way to disprove the possibility?

MOO

Unless you have a group of unscrupulous people who don’t crack, it couldn’t work. In a group at least one would break.

 

[MassGuy]

Wow. I mean, I'm sure that wouldn't be the first or last time someone tried that. So many questions. Who all is in on it? I guess Gannon would probably have to be.....

Didn't she possibly recently lose her job? Hmmm?

Is dad in on it? Bio-mom?

Is there any way to disprove the possibility?

MOO

If you’re staring down the barrel of a major felony charge, I think you give up about two weeks ago. If not, someone else does, or law enforcement figures it out.

Not that I think there is a chance in the world that she staged this, but throw that on top as well.

 

[BloodHoundSleuther]

Wow. I mean, I'm sure that wouldn't be the first or last time someone tried that. So many questions. Who all is in on it? I guess Gannon would probably have to be.....

Didn't she possibly recently lose her job? Hmmm?

Is dad in on it? Bio-mom?

Is there any way to disprove the possibility?

MOO

There's no way to disprove any possibility. However, the more convoluted the plan, with more actors involved, the less likely it is possible because that requires collusion between different people. Any one person can sqeal at any given time. Those scenarios usually end up in blackmail.

Sure, some people even fake cancer to get money through go fund me campaigns.

I just don't feel that scenario applies here. Everything points to FS! JMO

 

[catch_22]

But...and I'm not saying a spec of black is a person...but given how she adjusted in the driveway it could be tight. And a crew cab truck has 4 doors that open forward. A person exiting a tight squeeze could barely have a foot directly under the door, and would likely be standing next to the bed of the truck when they get out. Again, there is zero proof of a person exiting the truck from the video that's out there, so it's all speculation.

Source: Have been in crew cabs many times where the driver gives me an inch of space to get out.

That's a good point.

That video has constant little dark spots popping up and disappearing all over the place.

I just REALLY think we should have seen his legs. And I think the shadow is in the wrong place. And I don't see how that is a door (unless someone opened it 2 inches and then slammed it shut real fast). Where does it go?

That's fine. I'm willing to agree to disagree.