Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #10

[jvikes]

That's a good point.

That video has constant little dark spots popping up and disappearing all over the place.

I just REALLY think we should have seen his legs. And I think the shadow is in the wrong place. And I don't see how that is a door (unless someone opened it 2 inches and then slammed it shut real fast). Where does it go?

That's fine. I'm willing to agree to disagree.

I say we just agree that a better video is needed, because I don't disagree with you. Occam's razor is in effect until a better video resolution or angle is given, until then, the simplest solution is he didn't return with her. I'm just pointing out how reasonable doubt could come into play given the limited video at hand.

 

[MsBetsy]

In a new statement released Tuesday to Fox31, Gannon’s stepmother, Letecia “Tecia” Stauch, appeared to imply that the boy may have been abducted.

“I encourage you to think of any suspicious cars that may have been in the area watching a few days prior and keep praying for G,” she said in the statement.

However, in response to Stauch’s statement, the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office says authorities currently have no reason to believe the boy was kidnapped.

“Right now there is no threat to the community as far as this case goes,” El Paso County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Sgt. Deborah Mynatt tells PEOPLE. “We don’t have those specifics to put out there [yet], and we haven’t done so. There’s reasons for that and we just can’t go into those details.”
Police Responds to Claims of Missing Colo. Boy's Stepmother: 'There Is No Threat to the Community'

So LE believes Gannon wasn't abducted and doesn't seem to think he ran away any more otherwise they wouldn't be searching miles away from his home. What's left? Time travel?

LE didn't seem to think he ran away even in the beginning.

So if LS really did tell investigators initially about the person who picked him up and who sent him, it seems they followed up on those leads and found no evidence to back that up pretty early on.

Jmo

 

[ChuckMaureen]

I say we just agree that a better video is needed, because I don't disagree with you. Occam's razor is in effect until a better video resolution or angle is given, until then, the simplest solution is he didn't return with her. I'm just pointing out how reasonable doubt could come into play given the limited video at hand.

IMO, the shadow negates a 'simplest solution' Occam's assumption. Something caused that shadow and, given we saw GS enter the vehicle, IMO Occam's would suggest we he should exit the vehicle. What else would cause the shadow?

 

[ChuckMaureen]

That's a good point.

That video has constant little dark spots popping up and disappearing all over the place.

I just REALLY think we should have seen his legs. And I think the shadow is in the wrong place. And I don't see how that is a door (unless someone opened it 2 inches and then slammed it shut real fast). Where does it go?

That's fine. I'm willing to agree to disagree.

What caused the shadow?

 

[MassGuy]

LE didn't seem to think he ran away even in the beginning.

So if LS really did tell investigators initially about the person who picked him up and who sent him, it seems they followed up on those leads and found no evidence to back that up pretty early on.

Jmo

If she told them that, I absolutely believe they would have jumped on it just to be safe.

I think they called Gannon a “runaway,” because that’s precisely what SM told them.

She made no mention of this person.

 

[Winterhike]

LE didn't seem to think he ran away even in the beginning.

So if LS really did tell investigators initially about the person who picked him up and who sent him, it seems they followed up on those leads and found no evidence to back that up pretty early on.

Jmo

Agree. If there was any legitimate suspicion by LE that Gannon was in the company or control of any person early on, one of their top priorities in the first few days of their investigation would have been getting this person's description and details out. They would have wanted Gannon and this person to be linked in the media so that people would be remembering to be on the lookout for them together.

Either LS totally made up this detail, or if it has any seed of truth in it she didn't mention it in her early contact with LE.

 

[jvikes]

IMO, the shadow negates a 'simplest solution' Occam's assumption. Something caused that shadow and, given we saw GS enter the vehicle, IMO Occam's would suggest we he should exit the vehicle. What else would cause the shadow?

Well, she parked and waited. Maybe someone came out from the garage to see what's up, she saw them, they turned around as she opened the door to get out. Maybe some weird reflections from he opening the door reflecting shadows at low angles around sundown. It'd make sense that someone got out of the back seat but it seems far from conclusive.

 

[MsBetsy]

I agree on this, she's trying to paint a picture that doesn't exist! While probably also hoping to hurt Gannon's Mom even more....if that's even humanly possible! She's really diabolical. Anything to keep the focus on her and cause undue strife. Sickening! She has a very unhealthy need for attention and drama. Sadly I know someone just like this. People like this are known to deflect, lie, gaslight...whatever it takes...even as far as to be the hero's in their own sick fairy tales. It scares me not only for Gannon, but anyone else in her path!

Considering all her efforts to twist the narrative, defend herself and come up with all kinds of scenarios to fit the evidence, it's interesting that she simply has not just come right out and said, "I had nothing to do with Gannons disappearance."

Imo

 

[lilithblue]

IMO, the shadow negates a 'simplest solution' Occam's assumption. Something caused that shadow and, given we saw GS enter the vehicle, IMO Occam's would suggest we he should exit the vehicle. What else would cause the shadow?

You could focus on just about anywhere in that video and see spots come up and disappear. My camera video does the same thing when it either doesn't have a strong connection or I try to zoom in too far on something. If I were to spend that much time on spots and shadows on any of my videos, I'd think I had people hiding in every tree on my property.

I have no idea if he got out. Hell, I don't even know if that's the stepmom and/or Gannon. But I'm sure the original video is a lot more clear and gives a few answers to those that need them.

 

[kittythehare]

That's a good point.

That video has constant little dark spots popping up and disappearing all over the place.

I just REALLY think we should have seen his legs. And I think the shadow is in the wrong place. And I don't see how that is a door (unless someone opened it 2 inches and then slammed it shut real fast). Where does it go?

That's fine. I'm willing to agree to disagree.

The guy that owns the footage had a much much much better view than we did and he had views before and after and several days of views. LE confirmed his analysis. They had an even better view on their high tech equipment.

And even if all of the above is incorrect he was reported as a runaway and said to leave that house at approximately 3.15pm. By LS. None other.

NO CCTV or PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAW HIM AFTER THE 10.13am DEPARTURE.
And even if all of that is moot it doesn't really help us find him, almost 3 weeks later.
Again LS has managed to troll the search effectively.
We're all tired and we'll get narky cos it goes with the territory and it's difficult to be like Gannon, kindness personified.

I held out great hope for him as a runaway with survival skills and a secret den that was warm and well supplied for the first 8 days. This without the slightest clue whether he had scouts training or not.

I do not know whether LE had always known about the 10.13-2.16pm footage though they stated early on that no cctv had depicted him after 3.15pm.
It is possible they did know because the search was so all over the place. I would have expected to see 300 people walking together in formation checking every inch of land. I never saw that.

I hope nobody dropped the ball and lost a week.
But, if they did, they will make up for it and the DA is ace!

I reckon we will see a conviction but we may never find Gannon.
It's hard that wrongs cannot be righted by convictions and that we cannot protect the vulnerable in our society much better than we do.
Only LS has thrown this spanner in the works, nobody else. She lies. A lot. Disregard her.

 

[catch_22]

Maybe, but...

The shadow is undeniable. It's there, and it coincides with the blip we see at the top edge of the vehicle.

The camera is installed at a height taller than the top of the truck but it is also 'behind' the vehicle (not 90° perpendicular to the side of the truck) and also at a distance. The distance between the camera and the truck is enough to negate seeing much of the top of that rear door. I'm basing my opinion on my photography experience.

True, the camera appears only slightly higher than the roof of the truck. Not a very strong angle. And the non-90° perspective does make things challenging.

At the very beginning of the video, when she walks out to the truck, you can't (or I couldn't) even see her shadow. It might not be as bright out as it was 4hr later, but I think the shadows under the vehicles at least look similar. But Gannon somehow cast a big, dark, solid shadow?

The timing seems to be off too. Is that the door opening, or closing? If opening: man, he jumped out of there fast. If closing, shouldn't the ground shadow have been there longer? I think people generally stand still for a second or two when they close a door. Not to mention the time it takes from when your first foot hits the ground to when you are completely out of the vehicle. Generally when you're squeezing out of a tight opening, it doesn't happen super fast. But the shadows were both relatively quick flashes. Kind of like all of the other "dark spots" flashing on and off in random places throughout the video.

MOO

 

[kittythehare]

No, I think we had our fill already on that one! No crow on this menu. I wish there were because that would mean Gannon is alive, but he's not I do hold out hope that he's coming home to his family. MOO

However, should the menu change by some fantastical miracle, I'll be sure to send you an invite @Knox!

Will you invite me too. I'll even eat the crow feathers I'll be that happy.

 

[MsBetsy]

If she told them that, I absolutely believe they would have jumped on it just to be safe.

I think they called Gannon a “runaway,” because that’s precisely what SM told them.

She made no mention of this person.

Well, if they are only just now hearing all the things she addressed in the latest statement then she just gave them a ton of new leads to have to deal with! Talk about hindering the investigation. Jmo

 

[demetra]

So lets say Gannon got out of the truck on the other side..that's what step mom says, what happened next? Did he runaway? Go to a friends? Did someone come get him? How has anything she said helped find Gannon? step mom has made her own self look guilty with her details and story changing and the single most important thing that should have never changed is she reported him as a runaway but know says [from day one the Sheriff's office has known a description of the person/friend whom Gannon left with] I thought he went to a friends house and step mom didn't know wich friend? How did Gannon leave with this friend on foot or in a car? Her 911 call should have been my step son didn't come home and he left with a friend/person..not he went out to play and maybe he ran away..jmo Where is Gannon?

 

[catch_22]

If you’re staring down the barrel of a major felony charge, I think you give up about two weeks ago. If not, someone else does, or law enforcement figures it out.

Not that I think there is a chance in the world that she staged this, but throw that on top as well.

Yeah, seems extremely unlikely. If that is what's going on, someone(s) is going to be in BIG trouble.

I haven't thought of anything to definitively disprove it yet, though.

JMO

 

[MassGuy]

Well, if they are only just now hearing all the things she addressed in the latest statement then she just gave them a ton of new leads to have to deal with! Talk about hindering the investigation. Jmo

It’ll likely just make them focus on her, and give them an excuse to request another interview. She’s just giving them more ammo.

What’s ironic, is that her attempts to improve her public image and fight back against accusations, has only worsened her image, and increased suspicion.

Talk about losing.

 

[catch_22]

I say we just agree that a better video is needed, because I don't disagree with you. Occam's razor is in effect until a better video resolution or angle is given, until then, the simplest solution is he didn't return with her. I'm just pointing out how reasonable doubt could come into play given the limited video at hand.

Yeah, it is a little freaky. I had a mini panic attack the other day when someone pointed out the shadow.

 

[jvikes]

The guy that owns the footage had a much much much better view than we did and he had views before and after and several days of views. LE confirmed his analysis. They had an even better view on their high tech equipment.

And even if all of the above is incorrect he was reported as a runaway and said to leave that house at approximately 3.15pm. By LS. None other.

NO CCTV or PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAW HIM AFTER THE 10.13am DEPARTURE.
And even if all of that is moot it doesn't really help us find him, almost 3 weeks later.
Again LS has managed to troll the search effectively.
We're all tired and we'll get narky cos it goes with the territory and it's difficult to be like Gannon, kindness personified.

I held out great hope for him as a runaway with survival skills and a secret den that was warm and well supplied for the first 8 days. This without the slightest clue whether he had scouts training or not.

I do not know whether LE had always known about the 10.13-2.16pm footage though they stated early on that no cctv had depicted him after 3.15pm.
It is possible they did know because the search was so all over the place. I would have expected to see 300 people walking together in formation checking every inch of land. I never saw that.

I hope nobody dropped the ball and lost a week.
But, if they did, they will make up for it and the DA is ace!

I reckon we will see a conviction but we may never find Gannon.
It's hard that wrongs cannot be righted by convictions and that we cannot protect the vulnerable in our society much better than we do.
Only LS has thrown this spanner in the works, nobody else. She lies. A lot. Disregard her.

They're looking in bodies of water and driving rangers with search lights thru sparsely populated areas nearly 3 weeks later in a rocky mountain winter. I don't think they're looking for a survivor at this point. Super sad, but like so many of these stories it seems the poor kid had no chance and the initial person people suspect is likely on point. Someday we'll hear the audio, see the full videoes, and know as much as LE does at this point that led them to this type of search.

 

[catch_22]

What caused the shadow?

It's not a shadow. It's one of those random dark spots popping up, and then disappearing due to the poor quality. Same as the "door".

Just watch a minute of the video, and watch the grass or street or driveway or whatever.

Little dark spots appear and go away constantly.

JMO

 

[kittythehare]

It’ll likely just make them focus on her, and give them an excuse to request another interview. She’s just giving them more ammo.

What’s ironic, is that her attempts to improve her public image and fight back against accusations, has only worsened her image, and increased suspicion.

Talk about losing.

Bring it, I say!
Hopefully next interview will be with the FBI.
Nice little penalty attached to lying to the FBI.
I can see it- the superseding indictment already....
I wish.