Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #11

[Deleted member 158085]

Man they really keep stressing that they hope to find him alive. I don't know that I've seen that for so long? Usually, eventually, they say they believe they're looking for a body. Or am I wrong?

I don’t think so. They don’t want anyone to be able to come back and say that LE had given them up for dead. It’s better to be able to say they worked a case as if they could recover a live child the entire time.

Example: I think LE and most of the world were 80%+ certain that Jayme Closs would not be found alive. And LE was as surprised and delighted as everyone else when she was found alive.

 

[SalMAnder]

I just saw this online. I wish I was privy to what lead caused this search methodology and equipment. I have special ground probes and a metal detector that can pick up shoelace eyelets and dental amalgam for this type of search, and they are only used for one thing.

That's what I felt this morning when I drove through. Just gut wrenching sick pit in my stomach.

 

[Boxer]

This sounds like they are getting closer to finding some type of evidence.

Yes, sending civilians away. Hoping they find something.

 

[lonetraveler]

Our verified track expert just said upthread that they keep a scented item in a paper bag to re-scent the dog. No need to have the dog go to Gannon's room.

Maybe this latest dog was a cadaver dog, JMO.

 

[LietKynes]

I have a question. I don’t know much about technology. If LS did not voluntarily give LE her phone to search, then are they able to look for google locations or pings by using an alternate source? She wasn’t cooperative with LE so I’m guessing she didn’t agree to give them her phone.

Agreed.
And remember she said in msm that LE 'threatened to shoot' both her and her daughter.

 

[JDough]

Sorry for the late reply- just catching up

I noticed that the LE spokesperson indicated they "still hope to find Gannon alive" (around 50 seconds into video). I don't believe this statement has been used previously? If memory serves me correctly, each update has always indicated "we believe he is still alive", when questioned by reporters.

Am I wrong about this?

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Yikes...there's absolutely no way to confirm that someone named "Lee Marie" posting on social media is actually TS. I would be careful with this one.

Especially since that profile has been up for years.

Not something I would run with.

 

[floridamomma]

Thank you - it is truly amazing what they can track. The other day my husband and I noticed that Life360 was showing us in our bedroom, even on our specific sides of the bed.

Where is the jaw dropping emoji when I need it!! Whoa!

 

[Knox]

Respectfully I'm sure they've talked to her. She may be protecting her mom though, who knows.

Not addressing this post to you, just bouncing off of it. IMO this minor child should be off limits for discussion. TS threw her under the bus, no need for us to her do further harm because of who her Mom is.

 

[MassGuy]

Sorry for the late reply- just catching up

I noticed that the LE spokesperson indicated they "still hope to find Gannon alive" (around 50 seconds into video). I don't believe this statement has been used previously? If memory serves me correctly, each update has always indicated "we believe he is still alive", when questioned by reporters.

Am I wrong about this?

Yup, and we’ll continue to hear that until they know for a fact he is dead.

If anyone is drawing hope from that statement, they shouldn’t. It’s standard.

 

[MassGuy]

You might be able to see the team here. At any rate, it’s the @jeffcosheriff bloodhound unit. Another example of the multi-agency effort in looking for Gannon Stauch

Brandon Thompson on Twitter

 

[Trackergd]

The black and white dog in the photograph is wearing a gray harness. Most SAR dogs wear orange harnesses/vests. This is curious to me as to what is going on.

Officials not using citizen volunteers to search for Gannon Stauch in Larkspur

 

[Justmythough]

Man they really keep stressing that they hope to find him alive. I don't know that I've seen that for so long? Usually, eventually, they say they believe they're looking for a body. Or am I wrong?

I think that they say it until they have solid evidence to the contrary.
It must be much harder to make that determination with kids. When adults disappear lack of online activity, banking activity, not making regular contact, etc paints a clear picture.
I can think of a few cases local to me where LE said they were hopeful that the missing victims where alive and then when details finally made their way to the public it was pretty obvious that they would have known from the get go that they were searching for remains.
I definitely believe them when they say their goal is to bring him home safely.

 

[10ofRods]

I saw that comment last night and actually thought that it sounded just like a comment we had here yesterday.

Very time consuming stuff, but oh so informative. Lots of interesting theories, most of them based on MSM (and of course, the Palmer Lake Herald is a good source on this case).

I was pondering things in LS's last statement, about the gate and I think that someone on those comments had a good theory (which is that LS may have responded to a question about a gate, when speaking to LE, and needed to place the gate in a certain part of the world...)

 

[Blissfully_B]

I have a question. I don’t know much about technology. If LS did not voluntarily give LE her phone to search, then are they able to look for google locations or pings by using an alternate source? She wasn’t cooperative with LE so I’m guessing she didn’t agree to give them her phone.

I believe that is why it took them a while to start to target a specific area. If she wasn't going to hand over her phone willingly then they had not choice but to go through the proper channels (warrants, cell phone company, etc.) Once they had her data they were then able to see where she had been or what she had search. JMO

 

[SalMAnder]

Thank you! I hope that other folks get interested in SAR and get experience putting boots on the ground solving these cases. Trackers are the rarest of the SAR skills, but if you read Tom Browns Field Guide to Tracking and Nature Observation, you will learn a ton. With some dirt time, any SAR team would give their right arm to have you. If you are a Tom Browns School graduate, well, that's a whole other world.

We always try to be really observant and quiet on our hikes. I'm tagging this book on Amazon for a future purchase! Thanks!!

 

[lonetraveler]

Thank you - it is truly amazing what they can track. The other day my husband and I noticed that Life360 was showing us in our bedroom, even on our specific sides of the bed.

And????? LOL

 

[floridamomma]

I have a question. I don’t know much about technology. If LS did not voluntarily give LE her phone to search, then are they able to look for google locations or pings by using an alternate source? She wasn’t cooperative with LE so I’m guessing she didn’t agree to give them her phone.

My GUESS is that the phone company finally came up with info for the search warrant. Obviously moooooo.....

 

[ZhaZhaHa]

The black and white dog in the photograph is wearing a gray harness. Most SAR dogs wear orange harnesses/vests. This is curious to me as to what is going on.

Officials not using citizen volunteers to search for Gannon Stauch in Larkspur

The photo in this article is not of the newest search area. This is the search area a few days back near the school bus yard. So that COULD be a civilian searcher?

 

[Knox]

Very time consuming stuff, but oh so informative. Lots of interesting theories, most of them based on MSM (and of course, the Palmer Lake Herald is a good source on this case).

I was pondering things in LS's last statement, about the gate and I think that someone on those comments had a good theory (which is that LS may have responded to a question about a gate, when speaking to LE, and needed to place the gate in a certain part of the world...)

Ohhhhh, that could make sense of all the nonsensical information about "that gate and the key". Maybe there were text messages from her phone about "a gate"?