Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #18

[TheVic]

I don’t think so. I’m convinced this is a homicide investigation, and time means nothing.

I think the reason for her silence is that she either has an attorney, or has communicated with one.

Hell, a layperson could tell her that she needs to shut up, as she’s made things exponentially worse every time she’s opened her mouth.

I agree, though if he came back alive I would gladly eat my words.

 

[10ofRods]

Exactly.

Same with Jennifer Dulos. They determined the blood in her garage indicated a loss of life, iirc.

But they certainly aren't going to say he's dead when there is no evidence to prove he's dead. That would be irresponsible, I would think.

jmo

There are some cases where someone is declared dead and there's no large amount of blood. Opportunity and motive can still be established. I think PF would have been convicted on video alone, but the blood is what made LE really pull out the big investigative guns.

Presumably, given what LS has said, Gannon's blood is in the house. Since he's a child, she had a duty of care in addition. Attempts to tamper with evidence and/or influence witnesses can also persuade a jury.

When this goes to trial, it will be quite an event. I do think Gannon will be found before it starts.

 

[MassGuy]

I agree, though if he came back alive I would gladly eat my words.

Absolutely. There’s just no realistic scenario in my mind that would allow for anything like that.

I’ve seen speculation in some parts that she handed him off to someone. The issue with that is it just doesn’t fit what we’ve seen from law enforcement, and would certainly leave a trail.

If he ran away, he’s dead. If she took him somewhere and left him, he’s dead. If she killed him, well he’s dead (I think that’s how it works).

The closest we get to a happy ending is his recovery, and the conviction of his killer.

Unfortunate as that is.

 

[MtnMama]

shower thoughts and i really hate to bring up the gate again but another aspect i just thought of is how GS having the only key could give an excuse as to why immediate access to the backyard could not be given. the only key being gone as of 3pm that day approx would mean perhaps it didn’t allow LE to immediately walk the backyard in full (meaning the side yard where i am making the assumption that garbage cans would be kept) which may have allowed more time to get rid of the bags/ clean / ?? before further investigation occurred?

very possible i am way off but whenever i get a nagging thought i just think “give it to the group” and it helps ease my racing mind.

Maybe, but I'm hoping that LE kept tabs & was all over their trash from Day 1! Also if it makes you feel any better, through my sleuthing of pics & news coverage, I believe their trash pickup day is Wednesdays. Sooo, either LE could enter the backyard & have access to the cans through the glass slider and/or AS could give open the gate when he got home on Tues night. I think the whole key gate/thing was T presplaining as others have so very well put it. Could she have disposed of evidence in a dumpster or public trash, unfortunately yes. I do worry that she had time before LE arrived Mon. night and AS came into town to clean up & try to conceal things.

It is helpful for us all to think outside the box though, so keep presenting your theories as they come!

 

[Mito]

IMO an 11 year old would never search that. WTH? She typed it and thought she could fool people which is another example of her thinking she is smarter than everyone. And that action alone shows this was premeditated.

I think she wanted the answer for her own phone and tried to kill two birds with one stone. Moo cold hearted pre-med

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Absolutely. There’s just no realistic scenario in my mind that would allow for anything like that.

I’ve seen speculation in some parts that she handed him off to someone. The issue with that is it just doesn’t fit what we’ve seen from law enforcement, and would certainly leave a trail.

If he ran away, he’s dead. If she took him somewhere and left him, he’s dead. If she killed him, well he’s dead (I think that’s how it works).

The closest we get to a happy ending is his recovery, and the conviction of his killer.

Unfortunate as that is.

Sad but v true

 

[Sillybilly]

My apologies. Was removing a horde of posts discussing a tip and selected a bunch of posts for removal. With one shaky slip of the finger most of those removed posts were accidentally provided the reason as being "snarky comments". This is not the case in the majority of those posts but I can't take it back.

Apologies to 99% of those members who were simply responding to an original post that had been removed.

 

[MtnMama]

Absolutely. There’s just no realistic scenario in my mind that would allow for anything like that.

I’ve seen speculation in some parts that she handed him off to someone. The issue with that is it just doesn’t fit what we’ve seen from law enforcement, and would certainly leave a trail.

If he ran away, he’s dead. If she took him somewhere and left him, he’s dead. If she killed him, well he’s dead (I think that’s how it works).

The closest we get to a happy ending is his recovery, and the conviction of his killer.

Unfortunate as that is.

As much as I hate to agree....I do

 

[Momof4RN]

Exactly.

Same with Jennifer Dulos. They determined the blood in her garage indicated a loss of life, iirc.

But they certainly aren't going to say he's dead when there is no evidence to prove he's dead. That would be irresponsible, I would think.

jmo

I didn’t follow that case. Did they release the blood evidence during the course of the investigation? Or did they continue to state that hoped to bring Jennifer home alive?
In Aniah’s Case they did release that blood evidence in her vehicle was indicative of a life threatening injury during the course of the investigation.
In Gannon’s case I have yet to hear that blood evidence has been found much less indicative of anything.
With what little information we know I think either outcome is a possibility and I am not yet sold on any one theory. Other than #gannonstrong

 

[MassGuy]

I didn’t follow that case. Did they release the blood evidence during the course of the investigation? Or did they continue to state that hoped to bring Jennifer home alive?
In Aniah’s Case they did release that blood evidence in her vehicle was indicative of a life threatening injury during the course of the investigation.
In Gannon’s case I have yet to hear that blood evidence has been found much less indicative of anything.
With what little information we know I think either outcome is a possibility and I am not yet sold on any one theory. Other than #gannonstrong

The blood evidence was revealed in the first arrest warrants (tampering with evidence).

That’s how we will learn about it here. We won’t hear anything until an arrest is made.

 

[kittythehare]

shower thoughts and i really hate to bring up the gate again but another aspect i just thought of is how GS having the only key could give an excuse as to why immediate access to the backyard could not be given. the only key being gone as of 3pm that day approx would mean perhaps it didn’t allow LE to immediately walk the backyard in full (meaning the side yard where i am making the assumption that garbage cans would be kept) which may have allowed more time to get rid of the bags/ clean / ?? before further investigation occurred?

very possible i am way off but whenever i get a nagging thought i just think “give it to the group” and it helps ease my racing mind.

Is the key actually missing? I hadn't see it was?

 

[Megnut]

Question:

WHAT IF RD's account is 100% accurate but it doesn't correspond to the portion of the video we've seen? I can't help but to wonder what his video caught between 2:19 and 3:15.... and possibly again after dark...

WHAT IF TS left again? What if all her careful backing up was HER STRATEGY for avoiding detection on HER RING CAMERA? Possibly she was backing up to keep the passenger door out of the camera's eye or the bed of the truck, which makes me wonder what she may have loaded into the back of the truck.

Consider this: she races home from wherever she's been between 10 and 2 because she knows she has a young one coming home from school. And a daughter. Is it possible she came back at 2:19 for more hardware (shovels) and to make sure daughter would be there when stepdaughter got home.... and then left AGAIN? Giving her MORE TIME to conceal....

I'm curious who was home when the stepdaughter arrived.

I'm curious what their own ring camera showed. (I suspect the passenger door and trunk bed were intentionally out of sight line.)

I'm curious about TS's call to LE. WHERE was she when she placed the call?

I'm curious about how notification was made from TS to AS about Gannon's Not Being Home. Did TS call AS? Did AS call home, as perhaps was typical every night after supper? Was TS hoping she'd have more time before she had to own up to the absence?

While OUR minds go a thousand different ways, I'm confident LE is developing a very clear, straight line. Video, cell phone data, interviews....

It'll be stunning when we see all of it laid bare.

JMO

 

[Love Never Fails]

Absolutely. There’s just no realistic scenario in my mind that would allow for anything like that.

I’ve seen speculation in some parts that she handed him off to someone. The issue with that is it just doesn’t fit what we’ve seen from law enforcement, and would certainly leave a trail.

If he ran away, he’s dead. If she took him somewhere and left him, he’s dead. If she killed him, well he’s dead (I think that’s how it works).

The closest we get to a happy ending is his recovery, and the conviction of his killer.

Unfortunate as that is.

This is the best post I have seen today. Not because it makes one feel good or has a happy ending. It is because your statement is realistic and she needs to be arrested. And she will be. It may take time. But I believe realistically we can all come to the same conclusion now.

 

[lonetraveler]

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[MtnMama]

Admittedly I'm not the best at exhibiting patience and above all my heart literally hurts for Gannon. He needs to be found!

Given the terrain of many surrounding areas & need to cover large areas, wouldn't drone searches be extremely helpful and faster? I get that this wouldn't necessarily work for small evidence, but for Gannon? I know there was a neighbor doing this when he first went missing, how about aerial drone searches of some of those remote areas? Anyone know someone local who'd be capable & willing to do this?

 

[Bravo]

Some cases you follow you get info and some are very tight lipped. It doesn't always mean anything. Yet I prefer they do keep it quiet. Defense Lawyers today well IMO it's just about winning with "some". I think they know who they are dealing with and "if" it gets to a Trial they don't need a 3.0 version from her original statements.

 

[grannygates]

Is the key actually missing? I hadn't see it was?

oh you’re right! that was an assumption i made all on my own with the idea that GS had the only copy. it was not outright said that the key was missing.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Which, for me, speaks to "we are not local," we were late to the party unless you lived there.
Gray area…. MSM is an allowable source but is MSM FB pages? Specifically the KRDO NewsChannel 13 FB. I’m not looking to quote any individual on that page but merely to demonstrate the feel of the community when the story broke, as evidenced by the KRDO NewsChannel 13 FB page.

Social media pages of MSM are 100% allowed.
Common practice is "interesting comment by AB on this post by Joe Media from NBC" and the direct link to either the post, or the actual comment.
But, we can't discuss the comment.

just FYI

 

[Inthedetails]

There are some cases where someone is declared dead and there's no large amount of blood. Opportunity and motive can still be established. I think PF would have been convicted on video alone, but the blood is what made LE really pull out the big investigative guns.

Presumably, given what LS has said, Gannon's blood is in the house. Since he's a child, she had a duty of care in addition. Attempts to tamper with evidence and/or influence witnesses can also persuade a jury.

When this goes to trial, it will be quite an event. I do think Gannon will be found before it starts.

Yes, of course.

I'm assuming there will be a time when LE makes charges.

(I'm also assuming that LE has been searching for a body, hoping for a live boy, but expecting a body.)

I will let this go because I don't think my point is understood. LE can't say someone is dead without evidence. We aren't there yet.

No worries, I'm done.

jmo

 

[missingm]

Yeah, LE knows that the person who knows where Gannon is, will never go after that reward......

Not always. The case of Kristin Huggins was solved by the greedy accomplice of Ambrose Harris.

The killing took place Dec. 17, 1992, and the victim’s body wasn't found until Feb. 18, 1993. Gloria Dunn -- apparently hoping to collect the posted $25,000 reward -- contacted the police months after the murder, claiming to be a psychic who could lead them to the missing young woman. Her dubious story quickly unravelled, and she confessed to her role in the kidnapping and slaying of Huggins, after leading police to her badly decomposed body.

Ambrose Harris | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers