Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #19

[PaulaDC]

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Where was this written, China?! LOL

Could be. I just saw this and the self sealing sides. Thought it was interesting that anything of any size could be sealed up in it.

 

[MtnMama]

Okay, now this feels really different....my heart is sinking..

Agreed

 

[Angels Advocate]

There has been something I can't put my finger on with the TS. She seems oddly confident that Gannon is alive and that she will be proven right or innocent or whatever. She stands by the scenario that he ran away or was abducted, yet statistics show that the majority of children who are kidnapped are found deceased aren't they? So even if she has herself convinced he ran away, the outcome would be expected to be poor.
Which leads me to this.
We may have a Sherri Papini type situation (now I am not saying that she was kidnapped or not) but, she seemingly disappeared and conveniently re-appeared the morning of the vigil some weeks later.
I would have to think that if TS was the last one to see Gannon alive - as she admits - and any evidence of death was found by LE, then surely she would be named a person of interest purely from a factual point of view.
I appreciate that TS is a sociopath and that she may be confident in saying he is alive because he was the last time she saw him, but I strongly believe she has him stashed somewhere. There is zero sense of urgency in her and I do think that LE may be waiting for her to lead them to where he is and that they don't necessarily believe he has passed.

Having followed the Heidi Brouchard case, alot of people were 100% sure that Shane was involved. Yet we now know that from early on in the investigation Shane and LE were aware of what was happening, and Shane's interviews spoke directly to the woman responsible and in hindsight illustrated what had taken place. Ex: Feed the baby, look after the baby.
Maybe there are some clues in what Gannon's bio parents are saying more than what TS is saying.

I have felt similarly.

 

[MysteryAlpaca]

I think I missed something..? Which update are you viewing where anything looks like a gun?

What point of her video do you see something like that? I can't listen to her video at work but would like to scroll to that spot.

Ignore me! I was wrong. Deleted my previous post. Sorry!

 

[Jillyg]

I kind of laughed at the cone, what would they have used it for?

Take pics of evidence to mark it. It probably has a number somewhere on it.

 

[Warwick7]

Jmo...if there ever is a trial...

There will be. Look at Patrick Frazee. One year to the date he killed her.
Life plus 156 years!!!!

 

[10ofRods]

So how do we know they didn’t alert on the truck? I guess I didn’t finish my thought in my prior post. I thought everyone was saying that we somehow knew the cadaver dogs didn’t alert on the truck because she hasn’t been arrested

If a cadaver dog did scent on the truck, they would probably arrest her (unless the entire rest of the case s terrible, which I don't think is the case). But we don't know for sure.

We don't know anything that's not in MSM or LE updates. We're just trying to use inference and deduction here. If LS carried a dead body around in her truck, they'd know whose body it was. They would have arrested her by now.

 

[MysteryAlpaca]

There has been something I can't put my finger on with the TS. She seems oddly confident that Gannon is alive and that she will be proven right or innocent or whatever. She stands by the scenario that he ran away or was abducted, yet statistics show that the majority of children who are kidnapped are found deceased aren't they? So even if she has herself convinced he ran away, the outcome would be expected to be poor.
Which leads me to this.
We may have a Sherri Papini type situation (now I am not saying that she was kidnapped or not) but, she seemingly disappeared and conveniently re-appeared the morning of the vigil some weeks later.
I would have to think that if TS was the last one to see Gannon alive - as she admits - and any evidence of death was found by LE, then surely she would be named a person of interest purely from a factual point of view.
I appreciate that TS is a sociopath and that she may be confident in saying he is alive because he was the last time she saw him, but I strongly believe she has him stashed somewhere. There is zero sense of urgency in her and I do think that LE may be waiting for her to lead them to where he is and that they don't necessarily believe he has passed.

Having followed the Heidi Brouchard case, alot of people were 100% sure that Shane was involved. Yet we now know that from early on in the investigation Shane and LE were aware of what was happening, and Shane's interviews spoke directly to the woman responsible and in hindsight illustrated what had taken place. Ex: Feed the baby, look after the baby.
Maybe there are some clues in what Gannon's bio parents are saying more than what TS is saying.

Bolded respectfully by me.
I can't remember seeing anything in MSM that suggests this is a diagnosis of her. Can you point me to it?

 

[SleuthBee]

...
Dealing with a few narcissists in my own life they love to play the victim. Really no extreme they won't go to I have found. Willing to concoct great tales to get attention or what they want. So suppose AS was unhappy with her. He had hinted at divorcing or a separation. I think it is possible TS could think something like an "abduction" would save their marriage. She envisioned them growing closer again as they had vigils for a missing child. AS would lean on her and she could reel him back in her trap. Not logical, but people like this aren't logical. She may have been planning it or flirting with the idea for a bit, but when she hurt GS she decided the plan had to be put into motion now. Except, nothing worked out like she planned. AS kicked her out. LH was in the house and she wasn't. The public was calling her out on her lies and now TS has herself backed into a corner. ... That is why I mostly go back to the odds being about 99% she acted alone and GS disappearing was an act done by TS alone and this ending is going to be a very, very sad one...

Good eye Kismet7.

Regarding motive, your thoughts are my thoughts. And she made that apparent during the interview with her back to the viewers. TS's words resented LH for the attention she was receiving and she belittled and devalued her role in Gannon's life. Then she begrudged her of a warm bed as she endures what may be the greatest trauma of her life.

I am glad for the position AS has taken, and he is doing the right thing by supporting his son's mother. This is the only ray of light in this whole horrific event.

Well that plan backfired, now didn't it?

 

[Knox]

There has been something I can't put my finger on with the TS. She seems oddly confident that Gannon is alive and that she will be proven right or innocent or whatever. She stands by the scenario that he ran away or was abducted, yet statistics show that the majority of children who are kidnapped are found deceased aren't they? So even if she has herself convinced he ran away, the outcome would be expected to be poor.
Which leads me to this.
We may have a Sherri Papini type situation (now I am not saying that she was kidnapped or not) but, she seemingly disappeared and conveniently re-appeared the morning of the vigil some weeks later.
I would have to think that if TS was the last one to see Gannon alive - as she admits - and any evidence of death was found by LE, then surely she would be named a person of interest purely from a factual point of view.
I appreciate that TS is a sociopath and that she may be confident in saying he is alive because he was the last time she saw him, but I strongly believe she has him stashed somewhere. There is zero sense of urgency in her and I do think that LE may be waiting for her to lead them to where he is and that they don't necessarily believe he has passed.

Having followed the Heidi Brouchard case, alot of people were 100% sure that Shane was involved. Yet we now know that from early on in the investigation Shane and LE were aware of what was happening, and Shane's interviews spoke directly to the woman responsible and in hindsight illustrated what had taken place. Ex: Feed the baby, look after the baby.
Maybe there are some clues in what Gannon's bio parents are saying more than what TS is saying.

A couple of very wise posters pointed out something to day. It's not confidence, TS is gaslighting.

It's that simple, no complicated explanation or scenarios needed. TS injured Gannon, then disappeared him. Immediately thereafter she began her coverup.
The details will be filled in when we see the affidavit of probable cause when TS is arrested.

 

[squareandrabbet]

"Is that Dan May?"
"Unh unh"
Everybody's on the lookout for Dan the Man...

LOL... I'm guessing Not-Dan May is the bald man with the glasses in the blue suit, walking around with the lady from LE?

Wouldn't the brown roll of paper be used to conceal evidence being taken from the home? I thought I saw earlier photos of paper-rolled stuff being taken from the house. Not sure why they'd have to back into the driveway for that, unless they just want less press photos.

Yes, we've already seen it deployed, IMO; in the "gun/not-gun" debate after first evidence was carried out of the house.

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CMoore News® (Carly Moore)

Aha... there he is, Not-Dan May... also want to point out that in the first photo, there's a nice big vantage point of the "side gate".

Which also seems to be open; unless I mistake my eyes?

I mean maybe it's as simple as neighbors have complained that visibility is low due to the vans and they just parked? IDK. Seems like they didn't remove much today so far.

I should rather think the neighbors are falling out of their windows every time they see the crime lab vans, at least I would be... maybe the vans backed into the garage area in order to shield their doings from the neighbors.

 

[OldLadyBlues]

Is that a folding chair? Can anyone make anything else out in the video?

It mostly looked like all of their stuff. Meaning....tripod, step stool, 2 boxes of gloves but didn't recognize the third box, a white (perhaps) pointing stick, orange cone and the grand finale was that small bag of evidence that the last man was carrying out.

Edited because off all the things, I missed the cone!

Moo,Moo

 

[kittythehare]

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CMoore News® (Carly Moore)

jeez, I recognise a cone, last photo. one could be boxes of rubber gloves.. not sure if the thing that looks like a 2x1 is a level or a piece of wood...
???
Did you download these from the film?
Cool work Mass...

 

[OldLadyBlues]

DBM double post again!

 

[MysteryAlpaca]

The Tia Sharp case is a good example of where a body can be overlooked in not one, but several searches of a property, even after dog indications. Not saying that it happened here. Just pointing out it can happen.

 

[MassGuy]

jeez, I recognise a cone, last photo. one could be boxes of rubber gloves.. not sure if the thing that looks like a 2x1 is a level or a piece of wood...
???
Did you download these from the film?
Cool work Mass...

I just took screenshots on my phone.

 

[stattlich1]

I kind of laughed at the cone, what would they have used it for?

That cone likely used to mark a critical spot. I bet when the trial goes down you'll see photo evidence presented that includes that cone.

 

[Abstar80]

Bolded respectfully by me.
I can't remember seeing anything in MSM that suggests this is a diagnosis of her. Can you point me to it?

It is my assumption based on her behaviour. Have seen her called a sociopath on here, a narcissist and all kinds of things.

 

[EYEsuspect]

IMO IMO IMO
In much earlier/previous threads I shared my hypothetical theories as to what may have happened to GS, I’ve stuck with & built upon what I THINK may have occurred (the posts are probably still accessible in thread #10, if anyone cares to read them.) IMO, this all may have started as an ‘accident’ that quickly escalated from bad to horrific, & ultimately led to evidence clean up & disposal.

I combed through numerous sets of both the night & day versions of the video stills. The vehicle activity on the night stills (*IF* they actually reflect any pertinent details) would point to the involvement of 2 or more individuals, possibly the effort of a small group. I think it’s very possible GS was struck by a vehicle (alternately, bumped from the bed of AS’s truck & hit by the trailing vehicle) He could easily have sustained severe internal injuries, even more so if he was in any way “frail” from having been born exceptionally premature.

—>In TS’s on camera interview she described the incident she & her MINOR CHILD experienced with LE while out shopping for essentials. TS explained they were approached by LE to obtain vehicle keys presumed to be in the minor’s possession; in the process the minor was handcuffed, detained, & ultimately LE “took” the vehicle.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t recall this incident as reported by MSM or LE other than the reporter confirming with TS the vehicle was taken during the on camera interview. I read an informative article explaining the State of Colorado’s position on public records. In and of itself the article does a decent job explaining Colorado Law.

The day video RD released to MSM appears heavily edited; I think we’re only seeing a fraction of what actually occurred. JMO, GS’s gait looks freakishly abnormal, the leg movements don’t appear to be his own. If he appeared alive to viewers of the original video, whether heavily sedated/severely injured, I’m not convinced he’s walking entirely on his own—maybe with assistance or to some degree carried. He’s also a lean child, something doesn’t look right to me. Too many shadows to fully understand & must be playing tricks on my eyes. Not that we should believe TS’s statements to be true, but he was reported to have left the house in jeans, not sports wear. Also, listen closely to statements made by RD & reporter(s) What are they not saying?? Who, in addition to TS might be on the surveillance footage other than GS? It seemed a bit odd for RD to stumble over his words when he referenced the “young lady” who left with GS. Review the video again, posting the link below.

By no means am I advocating on behalf of TS, I certainly think her hands are dirty. I’m giving the benefit of the doubt GS’s disappearance was not premeditated. It’s apparent to me, TS is highly sensitive to others’ opinions of her (even those of complete strangers during crisis) She’s gone out of her way to “prove” she’s been a great mother (as a bio & step mom.) I think people who are consumed with presenting a facade of perfection will resort to desperate measures, poor judgement, & concealing the truth when they are faced with situations that could mar the exaggerated portrayal they have developed of themselves & those in their circle; upholding reputations is critical to her.

I have great faith in LE. Every move they make seems strategic & most certainly within the confines of CO State Law. Finding a missing person or evidence of such, especially if well hidden, here in the more rural/remote areas of CO, is a task of monumental proportions. The case becomes even more convoluted if multiple parties are involved. I speculate they have found sufficient evidence through their searches (and as we speak are linking them now) to forensic &/or pathology reports to solidify their findings for an iron clad case. Fingers crossed this is the “calm before the storm.”

ETA: I welcome anyone’s input and feedback, this case is the 1st I’ve followed in great detail. Like RD, thinking about what happened to or where this sweet boy could be has been the source of several sleepless nights. TIA

CO Law explained....
(If reference to the “fine print” is necessary click on the hyperlink Bill 17-1204 within the article.)
New state law restricts public access to names of juveniles accused of serious crimes | Colorado Freedom of Information Coalition

(1st photo of GS toggle to the right for the news segment; listen to the wording provided by RD at [~1:16] & by the reporter at [~2:14])
Neighbor: Surveillance video captured missing Springs boy leaving with stepmom, her returning alone

Another interesting read to tide me over was EPCSO SOP. I didn’t read all 760 pages, just the relevant highlights on investigations, missing persons etc., p. 215-217.
https://www.epcsheriffsoffice.com/s...aso_County_Sheriff_s_Office_Policy_Manual.pdf

 

[Beth11311]

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Granted, I'm ignorant on cadaver dogs, but can they get a hit on a dead body if the body is concealed? Like wrapped up and in a tote, or something of the like? Or is it phyiscal contact with the interior of the car?

I think some others already responded, but HRD dogs are incredible, they can absolutely hit on it even if the body were wrapped in a bag.